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applegrove

(131,459 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 09:32 PM Monday

On Gavin Newsom: It was an intentional and premeditated lie spread by the same paid MAGA influencer and bot network

It wasn’t a “claim” though. It was an intentional and premeditated lie spread by the same paid MAGA influencer and bot network that does this stuff daily.

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2026-02-24T00:04:50.900Z
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On Gavin Newsom: It was an intentional and premeditated lie spread by the same paid MAGA influencer and bot network (Original Post) applegrove Monday OP
Yep. And it wasn't even close to what he said. Wiz Imp had the actual quote. Scrivener7 Monday #1
Thanks. applegrove Monday #4
Can you believe the gall of these people? Scrivener7 Monday #5
Unfortunately a lie will make it 1/2 way around the world applegrove Monday #7
He's my governor.............. Lovie777 Monday #2
And PS: Where is OUR bot network?? Scrivener7 Monday #3
It seems to be attacking Democrats as well because they, like MAGA, view us as the enemy. W_HAMILTON Monday #10
What are you talking about? Scrivener7 Monday #12
There are bots, among others on social media, that attack from the left... W_HAMILTON Monday #17
Oh. That again. Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #26
Guess who else was pushing it? senseandsensibility Monday #6
And, sadly, it got past our alert system here on DU - multiple times. PeaceWave Monday #8
Damn. Scrivener7 Monday #9
But ... but ... but ... "Constructive criticism" or some such bullshit. betsuni Monday #11
I noticed that. Polly Hennessey Monday #15
It sure did. Swede 16 hrs ago #30
I noticed. yardwork 15 hrs ago #31
And spread right here on DU. Kingofalldems Monday #13
I tried. Scrivener7 Monday #14
Usonian nails it once again! 🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨 usonian Monday #16
and yet the OP is not self-deleted even though it has been pointed out by several in that thread how the social media lostincalifornia Yesterday #20
I threatened to alert on it. Been too busy with this "real world" stuff. usonian 22 hrs ago #25
I tried. Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #28
That OP often posts about things that Democratic leaders never did Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #27
While, yes, the story being told is false angrychair Yesterday #18
Yeah. Nope. Don't see it. I think you might find more who agree with you in the other thread. PeaceWave Yesterday #21
Dickens: "We don't need anyone to tell us when to be offended. And history has shown ... when we are, you'll know." betsuni 23 hrs ago #22
I don't see it pinkstarburst 14 hrs ago #33
Honestly angrychair 10 hrs ago #36
The misinformation continues Renew Deal 12 hrs ago #35
What is unfortunate is how some people accept anything posted on social media without question. Just looking at lostincalifornia Yesterday #19
Yes SunImp 23 hrs ago #23
So true: "not blindly accept..." DFW 23 hrs ago #24
They're going to keep doing this, y'all pinkstarburst 17 hrs ago #29
I wish people would show more discretion. yardwork 15 hrs ago #32
And when Democrats are bashed because of a negative headline, lie, prediction of doom, assumption of betsuni 12 hrs ago #34

Scrivener7

(59,155 posts)
1. Yep. And it wasn't even close to what he said. Wiz Imp had the actual quote.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 09:45 PM
Monday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21041465


“I’m not trying to impress you, I’m just trying to impress upon you; I’m like you. I’m no better than you. You know, I’m a 960 SAT guy, you know, and I’m not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying to act all-there if you got 940- But literally a 960 SAT guy, I cannot- you’ve never seen me read a speech, because I cannot read (pauses) a speech. Maybe the wrong business to be in.

applegrove

(131,459 posts)
7. Unfortunately a lie will make it 1/2 way around the world
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 09:52 PM
Monday

by the time the truth gets its shoes on. Galling is one way of putting it.... morally dead is another.

W_HAMILTON

(10,272 posts)
10. It seems to be attacking Democrats as well because they, like MAGA, view us as the enemy.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:19 PM
Monday

W_HAMILTON

(10,272 posts)
17. There are bots, among others on social media, that attack from the left...
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:52 PM
Monday

...but they often attack Democrats as much as they do MAGA fascists...

senseandsensibility

(24,638 posts)
6. Guess who else was pushing it?
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 09:51 PM
Monday

Scott Jennings. I know how popular he is here. Yes, this is definitely a rightwing smear.

usonian

(24,430 posts)
16. Usonian nails it once again! 🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 10:49 PM
Monday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21041432
That YOU was a lie.
I knows my trolls. It's not lightly said that I am "The Mad Prophet of the Internet"

sometimes.

copied below:
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In fairness, that quote was blind.

Translation: pulled out of someone's ass.

Gavin didn't say that. Who did?

Gov. Newsom to a black crowd in GA: "I am like you. I'm a 960 SAT guy. I can't read."


Saying "you" without qualifying who "you" are could be amplifying RW trolls.

Please qualify it or get alerted.

Accuracy matters here, even if nowhere else on earth. Saying "you" can be inclusive but most often isn't. Depends on who you EXACTLY are.
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lostincalifornia

(5,210 posts)
20. and yet the OP is not self-deleted even though it has been pointed out by several in that thread how the social media
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 12:30 AM
Yesterday

post was an intentional misrepresentation of what happened.


usonian

(24,430 posts)
25. I threatened to alert on it. Been too busy with this "real world" stuff.
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 02:21 AM
22 hrs ago

I wonder if anyone has? But even when OP's get deleted, the threads stay up, based on stale or refuted info.

I don't recall any entire threads here being taken down in their entirety, though I have seen some Hacker News threads disappear.

I'm not keeping count.

Though I'll reiterate that I trust zero "social media" posts, and will either look for a reasonable source, or let the mods and users at Hacker News filter out rubbish for me. I get a lot of good ideas there and share them here, but only one in 100 or 200 make the jump.

That's why these two forums are so valuable.

Scrivener7

(59,155 posts)
27. That OP often posts about things that Democratic leaders never did
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 07:26 AM
17 hrs ago

but that concern him greatly.

Luckily, they're not training them well and he's totally transparent.

angrychair

(12,026 posts)
18. While, yes, the story being told is false
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 12:03 AM
Yesterday

Let's just get this part out of the way first so I can't have my intentions misinterpreted:
In full disclosure Newsom is NOT my pick for president and I freely admit I will fight for almost anyone else but him in the primary process.
That said, to be clear: if Newsom wins the primary I will support him and vote for him.
Now that is out of the way...
The words he said and who he was saying it to still make this very rough around the edges and a bit unseemly in my opinion.

I’m not trying to impress you, I’m just trying to impress upon you; I’m like you. I’m no better than you. You know, I’m a 960 SAT guy, you know, and I’m not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying to act all-there if you got 940- But literally a 960 SAT guy,


The person he said that to was Andre Dickens, the Black mayor of Atlanta.

So, I freely admit that some would not find that racist, while others might.

Why would I say that?

Because the implications is that he did poorly on his SAT and unless he knows him well seems like a odd assumption. Not only that he did poorly but also because he might not be that smart. Also a bit of an odd assumption. The statement sounded a little condescending to be honest. At least in my opinion.

Also to be clear, he kind of walked into a field of landmines. Here is the rub with standardized tests like the SAT: historically standardized tests have had a tendency to test Blacks and Latinos poorly due to a white centric lean in word problem creation and literary references. Another significant factor is typically, due to systemic racism and redlining, people that live in poorer areas have fewer educational resources and poorer educational outcomes and therefore, on average, poorer outcomes on standardized tests than white people from primarily white suburban areas. That isn't my opinion but supported by years of peer-reviewed scientific studies.

While I'm willing to admit maybe that wasn't his intention, it's still not a good look when examined in context. Mistakes like these can be overcome but we need candidates that think before they speak and not become fodder for some ignorant racist's podcast.
Tried to give several references to show I'm not trying to denigrate anyone but have an honest discussion as to why some might see things a different way and might see the comment as racist or a little tone deaf.
References:
https://theatlantavoice.com/testing-bias-black-students/

https://www.nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/racist-beginnings-standardized-testing

https://wordinblack.com/2024/02/culturally-blind-standardized-tests-more-like-culturally-biased/

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1473284.pdf

PeaceWave

(2,995 posts)
21. Yeah. Nope. Don't see it. I think you might find more who agree with you in the other thread.
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 12:55 AM
Yesterday

betsuni

(28,936 posts)
22. Dickens: "We don't need anyone to tell us when to be offended. And history has shown ... when we are, you'll know."
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 01:32 AM
23 hrs ago

pinkstarburst

(1,943 posts)
33. I don't see it
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 11:14 AM
14 hrs ago

I also feel it's unfortunate that some are quick to try to take out leaders like Newsom for statements that could possibly be misconstrued in a less than great light if you really work for it, while completely ignoring other politicians who have made much worse statements.

Jasmine Crockett has made ableist statements insulting and mocking paraplegics. I am curious why there is such backlash from some people here on DU against Newsom, but I'm not seeing those same people speak out and say that Jasmine Crockett needs to publicly apologize for her offensive, ableist remarks that mock the disabled community.

Feels like a double standard.

Curious to know how you feel about that and if you also feel Jasmine needs to publicly apologize.

angrychair

(12,026 posts)
36. Honestly
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 02:38 PM
10 hrs ago

I think Crockett needs to apologize for a lot more than that.

My reason for focusing on Newsom in this particular situation, and the difference between the two, is that it's no secret that Newsom intends to run for president and that deserves extra focus. if I had my choice it wouldn't be him. Again, I'll vote for him if he is our official candidate but he is not my first or even second choice.

lostincalifornia

(5,210 posts)
19. What is unfortunate is how some people accept anything posted on social media without question. Just looking at
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 12:20 AM
Yesterday

Governor Newsom's record should be the first clue that something doesn't sync up.

This has been the modus operandi of the right wing for some time to do anything to try and divide Democrats.

It was done with Al Franken, Hillary, Biden, Harris, etc.

This is not to say we shouldn't be critical when Democrats do objectionable things, but we should also not blindly accept things that seem contrary to what we know about something.

SunImp

(2,672 posts)
23. Yes
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 01:39 AM
23 hrs ago
It was done with Al Franken, Hillary, Biden, Harris, etc.

Don't forget many Progressive caucus members, Anti-Ice & Anti-war protestors have also been smeared or snipped out of context by dishonest people hiding out in shady corners possibly using bots or by pretending to be protestors to inflame tensions. & I'm sure we all know how "trustworthy" Official state accounts/sources are about anything going on right now.

DFW

(59,956 posts)
24. So true: "not blindly accept..."
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 02:06 AM
23 hrs ago

Doing exactly that brought a tragedy of International proportions (Hillary 2016) and another of national proportions (Al Franken 2017). In Al’s case, Roger Stone counted on people not knowing the difference between “came forward” and “were brought forward.” He won that bet, and five of the Democratic Senators he hoodwinked STILL had the gall to run for president in 2020 (Warren, Booker, Harris, Gillibrand and Sanders), none of which got the nomination, which spared me a dilemma that year, although that (the nomination of Biden) had been my prediction anyway.

pinkstarburst

(1,943 posts)
29. They're going to keep doing this, y'all
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 08:12 AM
17 hrs ago

Republicans can't be happy about polling that shows him beating Vance. Right now he's getting a lot of attention ahead of 2028. He may not be the nominee, but expect them to try to take him out because they are AFRAID. We can't get distracted and divided by their lies.

betsuni

(28,936 posts)
34. And when Democrats are bashed because of a negative headline, lie, prediction of doom, assumption of
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 01:03 PM
12 hrs ago

doing nothing or being like Republicans, diabolical ulterior motives, on and on, objecting to this results in being targeted with personal attacks too.

Don't buy what they're selling!

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