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EarlG

(23,559 posts)
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:47 AM 22 hrs ago

So the Department of Homeland Security is currently shut down

And yet Trump has started a war of regime change against a country that is potentially capable of guerilla strikes on American soil.

According to a CBS report from a few weeks ago, "The shutdown will affect the Transportation Security Administration, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Coast Guard, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency and other agencies within DHS that safeguard national security."

It seems to me that if you're going to start a major war with another country -- especially if you're going to force the leaders of that country into an existential crisis, meaning that literally everything is on the table in terms of their response -- it would make sense to have all those defense and security agencies operating at full strength. And yet here we are.

Of course, DHS itself, along with the rest of the Trump regime, has been describing this as the "Democrats' shutdown" because Republicans have refused to negotiate with Democrats, who simply want ICE to follow the Constitution.

Now, if I were a very cynical person, I might think that not only does Trump not care about an attack on American soil, but he'd actually welcome such a thing, because a) he could blame it on the Democrats for shutting down DHS, and b) it would give him the pretext he needs to declare a national emergency and assert federal control over the mid-term elections.

But gosh, one would really have to lose one's faith in the President of the United States to consider that he might do something so disgraceful, wouldn't one?

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So the Department of Homeland Security is currently shut down (Original Post) EarlG 22 hrs ago OP
Thanks for the perspective orangecrush 22 hrs ago #1
Post removed Post removed 20 hrs ago #19
Please take this down orangecrush 20 hrs ago #20
Draft the ICEholesand send them over there to fight Wicked Blue 22 hrs ago #2
But See BS told me that the Democrats failed to advance to bill dickthegrouch 22 hrs ago #3
Watch the ending of the recent movie "civil war" Javaman 22 hrs ago #4
I hope so JustAnotherGen 20 hrs ago #34
Me too Javaman 18 hrs ago #39
i hope that means the movie ended well MadameButterfly 13 hrs ago #50
Very happy ending JustAnotherGen 13 hrs ago #51
OK I'll watch it MadameButterfly 11 hrs ago #55
You are not cynical... MiHale 21 hrs ago #5
Yep, his War Lord Class donors are safe. Attilatheblond 20 hrs ago #26
Whatever happens will be bad. A country deserves the leaders it elects, doesn't it? QueerDuck 21 hrs ago #6
Those in positions of authority who represent the people..and NOT themselves. BattleRow 20 hrs ago #18
we do not deserve the elected officials Elon picked Attilatheblond 20 hrs ago #27
Exactly what Bush allowed. BradBo 21 hrs ago #7
Don't think that any sane person popsdenver 20 hrs ago #29
It's all a political calculation: change the subject from the Epstein files, make dems look bad for not supporting our Martin68 21 hrs ago #8
Kick dalton99a 21 hrs ago #9
On his advice from Putin. multigraincracker 21 hrs ago #10
Yep. calimary 20 hrs ago #13
They wouldn't dare! Not with big, bad Donny Trump in the White House! tanyev 21 hrs ago #11
Does that mean Noem is laid off? NameAlreadyTaken 20 hrs ago #12
Nope. More like "gets laid" calimary 20 hrs ago #16
She's currently showering with Lewandowski at 36,000 feet in their $70 million "Love Shack." NBachers 19 hrs ago #37
It's not this post that needs an "Eeeeww" warning. calimary 18 hrs ago #40
Trump has always thought things through..... SergeStorms 20 hrs ago #14
Makes sense malaise 20 hrs ago #15
Chump working overtime to seize control of midterms duckworth969 20 hrs ago #17
From your lips to God's ear. Nothing would make me happier. Katinfl 20 hrs ago #21
Vance would carry on his legacy. And the fascists who wnylib 10 hrs ago #57
Sadly, popsdenver 20 hrs ago #32
not a stretch oldinmtdem92 20 hrs ago #22
LIHOP? Wednesdays 20 hrs ago #23
Let's replay all the 'Wag The Dog' references they made! BidenRocks 20 hrs ago #24
What could possibly COL Mustard 20 hrs ago #25
How much time to you have? Attilatheblond 20 hrs ago #28
Yup. COL Mustard 20 hrs ago #30
Fear 'ground troops & support troops' on US bases in other countries in the area WILL be involved. Attilatheblond 17 hrs ago #44
The movie was spot on. usonian 20 hrs ago #31
Well see - I AM a cynical person JustAnotherGen 20 hrs ago #33
Trump should be stuffed in a duffel bag and delivered to Iran Orrex 19 hrs ago #35
Antarctica would be better. calimary 18 hrs ago #41
Just one? BidenRocks 14 hrs ago #49
If I were a cynical person, I would say - you just connected the last two dots, EG. yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #36
Good Sense gfarber 19 hrs ago #38
Boy, gfarber, your work just gets better and better! calimary 18 hrs ago #42
"This curious lapse in good sense." RandomNumbers 17 hrs ago #43
Man...Kushner must be pissed purr-rat beauty 17 hrs ago #45
They haven't even bothered to put out a terrorism advisory pat_k 16 hrs ago #46
what if the existentially-threaten regime has plans to target mer de largo? Justice matters. 15 hrs ago #47
That would be the best of worlds thinking, IMO... slightlv 15 hrs ago #48
Maybe his bunker in what was formerly known as the East Room is completed. llmart 13 hrs ago #52
Trump would love a 9/11 again here in the US. Irish_Dem 12 hrs ago #53
trumpie wouid welcome demolition strikes in the U.S. Totally Tunsie 11 hrs ago #54
Well done Earl G. Way to put it together. applegrove 10 hrs ago #56

Response to orangecrush (Reply #1)

dickthegrouch

(4,446 posts)
3. But See BS told me that the Democrats failed to advance to bill
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 11:11 AM
22 hrs ago

It’s all propaganda and lies from every corner.
Only reliable news sources are BBC and the Guardian.

MiHale

(12,882 posts)
5. You are not cynical...
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 11:59 AM
21 hrs ago

I think he is inviting an attack on American soil…now here’s where it gets nasty…I believe if Iran doesn’t we will have a false flag op.

Attilatheblond

(8,628 posts)
26. Yep, his War Lord Class donors are safe.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 01:09 PM
20 hrs ago

The rest of us, not so much. But that IS the plan.

QueerDuck

(1,407 posts)
6. Whatever happens will be bad. A country deserves the leaders it elects, doesn't it?
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 12:02 PM
21 hrs ago

And a country must suffer the consequences as well. Lives will be lost, but maybe hard lessons will be learned too. (But for how long will the lessons be remembered?)

popsdenver

(2,080 posts)
29. Don't think that any sane person
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 01:13 PM
20 hrs ago

wouldn't believe the evidence that Cheney/Rummy/FBI Director, enabled 9/11 to fulfill the Republican's wet dream, outlined in their late 90's manifesto: PNAC

And yet, here the Republicans are, yet again, setting the stage, having proved that a 9/11 Scenario would get everyone in the nation behind their atrocity...............

And would certainly take the heat off of the Republicans, Trump's Epstein situation, Putin's Ukraine situation, and Netanyahu's actions in GAZA..........

Martin68

(27,462 posts)
8. It's all a political calculation: change the subject from the Epstein files, make dems look bad for not supporting our
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 12:17 PM
21 hrs ago

military, look tough, etc.

calimary

(89,577 posts)
16. Nope. More like "gets laid"
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 12:39 PM
20 hrs ago

or gets to hear Trump “sweet-talking” her about such things.

NBachers

(19,358 posts)
37. She's currently showering with Lewandowski at 36,000 feet in their $70 million "Love Shack."
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 01:35 PM
19 hrs ago

Maybe this post needs an “Eeeeww” warning.

calimary

(89,577 posts)
40. It's not this post that needs an "Eeeeww" warning.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 03:01 PM
18 hrs ago

And what does she figure Cory Lewandowski can do for her? Or get for her?

SergeStorms

(20,366 posts)
14. Trump has always thought things through.....
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 12:37 PM
20 hrs ago

for every contingency, so...................... screw it, I can't keep this charade up.

With tRump it's always been, "Ready.......shoot......AIM! He's a horse's ass.

duckworth969

(1,340 posts)
17. Chump working overtime to seize control of midterms
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 12:41 PM
20 hrs ago

“state of emergency”, “foreign government interference in our elections”, “domestic terrorists”, etc.

JFC, can’t the Creature just die already?! 😡

wnylib

(25,569 posts)
57. Vance would carry on his legacy. And the fascists who
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:51 PM
10 hrs ago

back Trump and Vance would make a sainted martyr out of the pedo slob.

popsdenver

(2,080 posts)
32. Sadly,
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 01:21 PM
20 hrs ago

it is the 2025 assholes, UBER wealthy, and Corporations that are truly behind this, and if Trump should croak, they will put someone in there to replace him and continue the execution of their madness........These groups only care about themselves and THEIR children and grandchildren, all other's are expendable.............

WASF

Wednesdays

(22,256 posts)
23. LIHOP?
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 12:59 PM
20 hrs ago

Let it happen on purpose?


A 9/11-type attack on the USA would be TSF's wet dream. Poll numbers shooting up to 90 percent or more.

BidenRocks

(3,082 posts)
24. Let's replay all the 'Wag The Dog' references they made!
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 01:02 PM
20 hrs ago

DHS isn't shut down as much as they are reloading with all the massive quantities of military equipment chump and noem have bought.

I don't know for a fact, but I think DHS military would be in the top 10 worldwide.

Remember the military helicopter violating city airspace in DC during George Floyd marches?

Chump has his private army loyal to only him.

Like the concentration camps he is building, those are meant for Liberal Thinking people. They will not stand empty!

We must derail this runaway train!

Attilatheblond

(8,628 posts)
44. Fear 'ground troops & support troops' on US bases in other countries in the area WILL be involved.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 03:34 PM
17 hrs ago

And I would not be surprised by attacks here in the mainland US. Trump picked a fight with the wrong people. Jihadists could be anywhere.

usonian

(24,550 posts)
31. The movie was spot on.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 01:20 PM
20 hrs ago

Wag the Dog



Now, send ICE, every last one of them.

Make Iran safe for McDonalds

JustAnotherGen

(37,920 posts)
33. Well see - I AM a cynical person
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 01:22 PM
20 hrs ago

They will do anything for their White ChristoFascist Vision.

calimary

(89,577 posts)
41. Antarctica would be better.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 03:06 PM
18 hrs ago

Too many “marks” in Iran he could still “work with”. And make empty but convincing promises to.

yellow dahlia

(5,446 posts)
36. If I were a cynical person, I would say - you just connected the last two dots, EG.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 01:33 PM
19 hrs ago

Last edited Sat Feb 28, 2026, 02:40 PM - Edit history (1)

But unfortunately - won't likely be the final dots.

Your analysis is cogent and frightening.

Rachel just did 20 Rhodes scholaresque minutes of connecting the dots.

gfarber

(245 posts)
38. Good Sense
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 02:24 PM
19 hrs ago

There once was a shutdown of State,
With security running on “wait,”
Yet war drums were played,
And bold threats were made,
While Homeland was guarding the gate.

The TSA tightened no belts,
FEMA felt funding’s harsh welts,
The Coast Guard afloat
In a half-manned boat,
While cyberspace guarded itself.

A leader declared with a grin,
“It’s their fault we’re all in this spin!”
Though talks were refused,
And tempers were fused,
The blame found a partisan bin.

If cynics were prone to suppose
Some strategy hid in the throes,
They’d whisper, “An attack
Might help to give back
Emergency powers he chose.”

“But surely,” the faithful would cry,
“No president schemes such a lie!
To wager the land
For political hand—
That’s far too disgraceful,” they sigh.

So here stands the puzzle immense:
Make war while defunding defense.
One hopes in the end
Cooler heads will amend
This curious lapse in good sense.

> © 2026 Glen Farber. All Rights Reserved.

RandomNumbers

(19,120 posts)
43. "This curious lapse in good sense."
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 03:33 PM
17 hrs ago

seems we've been in that "curious lapse" for a decade now.

With a brief respite for 4 years when the cooler heads slightly outvoted the insane asylum.

purr-rat beauty

(1,170 posts)
45. Man...Kushner must be pissed
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 03:40 PM
17 hrs ago

His dreams of a Gaza Strip Club is gonna be real tough to bring to fruition once a new round of terrorists are born.

pat_k

(12,953 posts)
46. They haven't even bothered to put out a terrorism advisory
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 04:52 PM
16 hrs ago

I would think going to war with Iran would require a heightened state of alert.

But what do I know?

I'm just a horrified, heartsick citizen.

https://www.dhs.gov/national-terrorism-advisory-system

Justice matters.

(9,642 posts)
47. what if the existentially-threaten regime has plans to target mer de largo?
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:43 PM
15 hrs ago

Or his damn golf courses around the world....

mmm?

slightlv

(7,680 posts)
48. That would be the best of worlds thinking, IMO...
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:17 PM
15 hrs ago

I strongly believe they will try for the things that make the states what we used to be -- our institutions. But on one hand.. go ahead and bomb the White House. trump has already demolished a good sized chunk of it already... and is busy building a ballroom to provide cover for a deep bunker crypto warehouse underneath it. Bombing it now might be a real favor to the people!

I just hate he has so much collateral damage that doesn't mean anything to any PTB... not here, not there, not anywhere, it seems. We here in the US will suffer horribly because of his actions. And the people of Iran, who have wanted regime change but were too poor and too much a different color couldn't do anything diplomatically because trump is who trump is. I don't care if I get called out... trump has to die. By natural causes would be best at this point, no doubt. But with the damage he is doing to the entire world, I really don't care WHAT takes him out, as long as it also takes out his long line of traitorous minions, as well.

Irish_Dem

(80,647 posts)
53. Trump would love a 9/11 again here in the US.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 09:11 PM
12 hrs ago

His popularity would soar, he could declare all kinds of special powers.
And continue with his lucrative crime spree.

Totally Tunsie

(11,742 posts)
54. trumpie wouid welcome demolition strikes in the U.S.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 09:50 PM
11 hrs ago

They would save him a bundle on tearing down all the old US monuments so that he could build all new ones.

applegrove

(131,563 posts)
56. Well done Earl G. Way to put it together.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:49 PM
10 hrs ago

Last edited Sun Mar 1, 2026, 05:30 AM - Edit history (1)



https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-bell-ca-rvc3&source=android-browser&q=cynical#ebo=0

Earl you are justly empathizing with the Trump regime. They are the cynical ones. Sometimes, quite often these days, you have to go there to the world they inhabit to understand them. It is not as if you can get a straight answer out of them. It is not as if ignoring the threat is an option.

cyn·i·cal
/ˈsinək(ə l/
adjective
1.
believing that people are motivated purely by self-interest; distrustful of human sincerity or integrity.
"he was brutally cynical and hardened to every sob story under the sun"
2.
concerned only with one's own interests and typically disregarding accepted or appropriate standards in order to achieve them.
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