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Statement from Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett (Original Post) sheshe2 Wednesday OP
It really sucks how many men abuse women and children EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #1
Men are not unique in this. Women are participatory, too. littlemissmartypants Wednesday #13
Sexual abuse is not limited by any gender or race. Melon Wednesday #18
So, it's not so bad because some woman someplace did the same? Srkdqltr 5 hrs ago #26
Let's suppose that someone, an infant or a toddler... littlemissmartypants 4 hrs ago #28
In a spoken world the tone of voice used is usually that smug, gotcha voice that makes it sound that because a woman did Srkdqltr 3 hrs ago #29
I don't really understand what you're talking about. And you didn't answer the question... littlemissmartypants 3 hrs ago #30
But that's the gotcha question. Does it exonerate the man if the woman does it also? Srkdqltr 2 hrs ago #31
It's a direct yes or no question. And you still haven't answered it. littlemissmartypants 2 hrs ago #32
Dolores Huerta...said Chavez raped and pressured her into sex in the 1960s, breaking decades of silence irisblue Wednesday #2
It was a depressing story jfz9580m Wednesday #15
... Solly Mack Wednesday #3
Enough is enough mcar Wednesday #4
I am with you, mcar. sheshe2 Wednesday #6
sad thing is Skittles Wednesday #5
At 86, I grew up in an era... oldsoldierfadingfast Wednesday #17
I absolutely do understand the gals (and guys) who stayed silent Skittles Yesterday #19
Thanks so much Congresswoman Crockett. littlemissmartypants Wednesday #7
Amen, sister. Joinfortmill Wednesday #8
DURec leftstreet Wednesday #9
I love Congresswoman Crockett's statement hamsterjill Wednesday #10
I was disappointed... 2naSalit Wednesday #14
K&R spanone Wednesday #11
K & R Permanut Wednesday #12
Good for Rep Crockett jfz9580m Wednesday #16
There's now talk among our city leaders Mme. Defarge Yesterday #20
Excellent statement, Jasmine Crockett... Cha 21 hrs ago #21
Thank you, Cha. sheshe2 16 hrs ago #22
Also, no matter how rich!! AKwannabe 14 hrs ago #23
I hope this gets a full investigation. Buzz cook 13 hrs ago #24
Thanks for Jasmine's statement ReRe 5 hrs ago #25
ReRe, it's good to see you. sheshe2 4 hrs ago #27

EdmondDantes_

(1,729 posts)
1. It really sucks how many men abuse women and children
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 08:23 PM
Wednesday

It's really not that hard to not do so. Not that there's a good time to find out someone isn't the good person that was thought, but it sucks a little extra given that this is coming out now as unions are in a very weak position and Republicans will probably try to tie unions in general to this (without even the slightest bit of irony).

littlemissmartypants

(33,083 posts)
13. Men are not unique in this. Women are participatory, too.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 09:52 PM
Wednesday

And families are the hub where it primarily originates.

Melon

(1,484 posts)
18. Sexual abuse is not limited by any gender or race.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 11:46 PM
Wednesday

It needs to be rooted out as a society cancer and eliminated.

littlemissmartypants

(33,083 posts)
28. Let's suppose that someone, an infant or a toddler...
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 09:33 PM
4 hrs ago

Was molested by their grandmother. How bad would that be in your mind?

Srkdqltr

(9,702 posts)
29. In a spoken world the tone of voice used is usually that smug, gotcha voice that makes it sound that because a woman did
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 09:54 PM
3 hrs ago

It sometime that it's AOK for a man to do it.
Mostly it's men who kill but because women sometimes do, men should get a free pass. Usually the person doing the gotcha will sit back with a smug look very proud of himself.

But then I don't know much.

littlemissmartypants

(33,083 posts)
30. I don't really understand what you're talking about. And you didn't answer the question...
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 10:08 PM
3 hrs ago

So, I'm not sure that I see your point.

Srkdqltr

(9,702 posts)
31. But that's the gotcha question. Does it exonerate the man if the woman does it also?
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 10:47 PM
2 hrs ago

That's the subtext to asking that question.

littlemissmartypants

(33,083 posts)
32. It's a direct yes or no question. And you still haven't answered it.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 11:01 PM
2 hrs ago

I think the premise that is being proposed based on differences in gender is bizarre.

Rape is rape. Period.

jfz9580m

(17,097 posts)
15. It was a depressing story
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 11:03 PM
Wednesday

This is why I have endured even some of my more annoying colleagues (whose judgement I disagreed with - being a tech hater from way back).
Look at the kinds of truly horrifying skeletons even people like Cesar Chavez have. Mahatma Gandhi was the same. He used to do unacceptable things to his family members.

I remember thinking sardonically during some of the worst years of my life if some of those forward thinking crews out there have considered lame metaphoric analogies that would in this …


At least they just have horrible judgements about how “Tech will Save the World!”. That was one of President Obama’s weaknesses imo. He was never sleazy or irresponsible. But he did have this sort of limpid trust in tech which those of us battle-hardened by real world exposure to EECS and its bs would be less susceptible to.


How could anyone actually irl be that daft even back in 2011? That is an extra wide-eyed take on tech coupled with paranoid levels of suspicion of random disheveled stoners.

They (EECS etc) defrauded me early on irisblue!

Looking back over my life I have been relatively lucky in always being in that “in the dead middle” contingent, lacking any desire to climb, but infuriated at the thought of dropping lower.

So I have ended up being defrauded more than harassed or taken advantage of in these ways. I am sick of being defrauded but I suppose it is a kind of fortune to at least be able to avoid any kind of sexual exploitation. That would be unthinkable.

Whatever happens, no human (female or male), should ever implicitly accept a new social or professional contract that is significantly inferior to the one preceding it.

I bring it up because sexual harassment and sexual creepiness are a zero tolerance area imo. Most women would agree. And what this story and others like it highlight is how shocking it is when highly respected figures like these have skeletons.

It is one reason I like science and medicine. On average fewer perverts to contend with. Generally most scientists I know are like President Obama.
They may be susceptible to a type of poor judgement call - like respecting Larry Summers or Facebook/Google back in 2011. But well that is a forgivable error if you see it as an error. Though really..with Larry Summers…

Google otoh has no shortage of perverts .

In a way, I guess it is kind of heartwarming when things are tacky, sleazy and generally disgraceful, but at least no sexual abuse-or God..I shrilly declaim that -surely no one anyone would know would be worse than..well these like a disastrously negligent university admin I once came across (also EECS - that field is a threat to civil society as we knew it).


17. At 86, I grew up in an era...
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 11:32 PM
Wednesday

and place where a woman who said she was abused or raped, the blame and shame was put upon her, not the perp.
Divorced women were looked down upon.
"Out-of-wedlock" children were also derided.
As nursing students, we were looked upon as easy prey - because we 'knew things'.
If you were not married by age 25, there was something wrong with you that you could not get and hold a man.

Thus, I can understand a 96 yo being hesitant to speak out and am proud of her for doing so.

It has taken a lot of work from a lot of women (and some men) speaking out to get us where we are today. But, unfortunately, there is still a lot more work to be done. It does my heart good when I hear women (and some men) shouting back!

Skittles

(171,463 posts)
19. I absolutely do understand the gals (and guys) who stayed silent
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 12:00 AM
Yesterday

it's why justice for the Epstein victims is SO important - while there has been improvement in this area there is still room for a LOT more

littlemissmartypants

(33,083 posts)
7. Thanks so much Congresswoman Crockett.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 09:13 PM
Wednesday

It's way past time since someone provided a strong voice for the voiceless.

Babies are raped somewhere in the world every day.

To me, it's the biggest scourge to the world today.

These perpetrators must be held accountable and spend every waking moment of their lives being afraid of punishment for these crimes against humanity, somehow. Soon. Forever.

Thanks so much for sharing this, she². I love you.

And I love Jasmine Crockett. ❤️

hamsterjill

(17,539 posts)
10. I love Congresswoman Crockett's statement
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 09:39 PM
Wednesday

I'm really shocked at all of this relating to Chavez, and having to absorb it. He was a figure in my childhood and I never heard an inkling of anything like what is being uncovered. So, as I said - I am absorbing.

But make no mistake, the victims need to be supported. I sincerely hope that Ms. Huerta has been able to unburden herself in a way that she will find vindication and peace. At 96, I doubt she will actually see much justice, but she will know that she started the process, and she deserves a peace that she has not been able to have for decades.


2naSalit

(102,333 posts)
14. I was disappointed...
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 09:54 PM
Wednesday

But not shocked. That Ms. Huerta is 96 and is just now telling her truth is a societal failure, as Congresswoman Crockett puts it.

Cha

(318,710 posts)
21. Excellent statement, Jasmine Crockett...
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 03:43 AM
21 hrs ago

We all know who she's including when she talks about the "abusers".

Mahalo for this, she~

Buzz cook

(2,887 posts)
24. I hope this gets a full investigation.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 12:32 PM
13 hrs ago

I don't think Chavez will be cleared. I'm just sick of information being withheld.

ReRe

(12,188 posts)
25. Thanks for Jasmine's statement
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 08:11 PM
5 hrs ago

I'm fed up to here with old-school good-ole-boy patriarchy, she. I don't know how we can call ourselves civilized humans if we can't stop the abuse that comes from the combination of money, power and a sick mind.

sheshe2

(97,337 posts)
27. ReRe, it's good to see you.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 08:43 PM
4 hrs ago

It is disheartening to see the old-school good-ole-boy patriarchy in charge of so many parts of our government, top down.

Worse are the women that are applauding it or just plain covering it up this misogynistic admin.

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