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Orrex

(67,079 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 04:32 PM 23 hrs ago

Remember when Trump pretended to be slightly nicked on the ear?

Many here (and elsewhere) recognized it as an obviously staged event to boost his campaign.

And some here dismissed that idea for... reasons, I guess?

Specifically, they doubted that even Trump would sacrifice someone's life for his own gain.

Well here we are. He's murdered a school full of children, he blew up dozens of Venezuelans on open water, summarily torpedoed Iranians in international waters, and now we find that he's killed multiple innocent people in Cuban hospitals by denying them access to life-saving power. And that's in addition to any deaths he's alleged to have ordered according to the Epstein files, and the uncounted deaths ongoing during his Iran fiasco.

At this point I think it's pretty clear that he's willing to murder to protect himself, so how can one imagine that anything is beyond him?


And look at that perfect, unscarred ear!

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Remember when Trump pretended to be slightly nicked on the ear? (Original Post) Orrex 23 hrs ago OP
trump's miracle ear fulfills the prophecy of revelations 13 :3 rampartd 23 hrs ago #1
I had read that some of his 'supporters' MyOwnPeace 22 hrs ago #23
Corey Comperatore ninjanurse 21 hrs ago #41
Exhume him! BidenRocks 21 hrs ago #48
He died for his orange idol Bettie 20 hrs ago #78
They will all tell you, their "Classic" answer popsdenver 18 hrs ago #100
And so does.... Escape 18 hrs ago #104
It wasn't the Lord working in mysterious ways Grim Chieftain 1 hr ago #151
Hell, when I was kid I modelled that "Beast* bobalew 16 hrs ago #120
Yeah! The miracle ear. BobsYourUncle 8 hrs ago #135
I believe that is supposed to be the Antichrist it happens to. kerry-is-my-prez 1 hr ago #148
they like him as the anti christ rampartd 1 hr ago #156
Yes he is the Seven Headed wild beast Oppaloopa 1 hr ago #149
Putin's plan for Orban to do the same was just discovered Easterncedar 23 hrs ago #2
Interesting factoid. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #39
Here's a link but no way to know if it is true. The WP ran with it also but they are no longer trustworthy lostnfound 2 hrs ago #145
Thanks! yellow dahlia 2 hrs ago #146
Interesting that Russia and the US are both backing Orban MadameButterfly 21 hrs ago #52
SAG Whip-poor-will 20 hrs ago #74
K&R 2naSalit 23 hrs ago #3
Yep. That was staged. Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #4
It was clear from 1/6 that he would do ANYTHING. Anything. themaguffin 22 hrs ago #5
Just look at who his head of education is. Nuf said n/t Cheezoholic 22 hrs ago #6
It was obviously.... Staged. ashredux 22 hrs ago #7
If Trump is on aspirin or prescription blood thiner Delmette2.0 21 hrs ago #53
But nothing requiring a pound of gauze. Beartracks 16 hrs ago #119
All I know is that we had 3 stray cats fixed. Conjuay 20 hrs ago #73
I thought it odd that the Secret Service agents did not keep him... 3catwoman3 18 hrs ago #106
But how would he have raised his fist and said, "Fight, fight, fight" LastLiberal in PalmSprings 3 hrs ago #141
I wasn't very vocal about it, when it happened, mercuryblues 22 hrs ago #8
There is. Ms. Toad 22 hrs ago #16
I have more of a scar on my ear cartilage from getting my ears pierced. MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #92
I agree, he was most likely mercuryblues 18 hrs ago #98
I do not see any scarring of his right ear Dave says 17 hrs ago #113
and the blood was on his CHEEK. Trueblue Texan 20 hrs ago #61
I just looked at timeline images on NPR and I didn't see a bloody hand. Trueblue Texan 20 hrs ago #65
It's amazing that the secret service stood him up like that in the line of fire Orrex 4 hrs ago #140
I take it you've never cut yourself, Ms. Toad 19 hrs ago #82
The blood appeared instantly... Trueblue Texan 8 hrs ago #133
None of the videos I've seen show the right side of his face Ms. Toad 2 hrs ago #142
The ear is scarred, in every image I have seen of it since the incident. Ms. Toad 22 hrs ago #9
Thank you for being a voice of reason and common sense. Jedi Guy 22 hrs ago #10
I take a lot of guff for it, too. Ms. Toad 22 hrs ago #14
Well, I suppose that's one way to put it. Orrex 20 hrs ago #70
"Perhaps you'll next assure us that those pics of Trump with bikini-clad children are photoshopped, too." Jedi Guy 19 hrs ago #89
The kooky theory is that an unhealthy bag of shit healed from a bullet wound in three days Orrex 19 hrs ago #91
Hm. Jedi Guy 17 hrs ago #111
How many of them have blabbed about Trump raping children? Orrex 17 hrs ago #115
Your claim falls apart when you realize those aren't comparable situations EdmondDantes_ 16 hrs ago #117
You are mistaken Orrex 16 hrs ago #118
"How many of them have blabbed about Trump raping children?" Jedi Guy 15 hrs ago #121
Fair enough Orrex 8 hrs ago #129
Also.. Orrex 8 hrs ago #131
I agree with you. Also, the bag of dicks he hangs out with could NEVER Maru Kitteh 22 hrs ago #11
You underestimate his desire to stay in power. Ritabert 22 hrs ago #12
Those were live bullets. Ms. Toad 22 hrs ago #13
Right With You ProfessorGAC 22 hrs ago #18
Agreed. n/t Ms. Toad 22 hrs ago #20
My shoes! BidenRocks 21 hrs ago #51
My guess is the shooter thought he had blanks. Ritabert 22 hrs ago #22
Right - and blanks killed Corey Camparatore. n/t Ms. Toad 21 hrs ago #27
This entire thread is an embarrassment sarisataka 21 hrs ago #46
Prove it! BidenRocks 20 hrs ago #58
Investigation into that so-called assassination was shelved very quickly. Ritabert 20 hrs ago #62
Are we going with crisis actors sarisataka 20 hrs ago #64
How about hospital records of Piggy's heroic survival? MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #95
I remember Reagan. BidenRocks 17 hrs ago #114
Me too! MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #123
Why does that surprise you? It was a setup. Ritabert 20 hrs ago #60
Would you let someone shoot at you sarisataka 20 hrs ago #67
What about "thought he had blanks" don't you get? Ritabert 20 hrs ago #59
So the shooter either couldn't remember to grab the clip with the blanks EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #72
The guy was recruited and was told there would be blanks. Ritabert 19 hrs ago #93
So is your theory that the shooter thought he had blanks and the Trump team knew he had real bullets and EdmondDantes_ 18 hrs ago #102
I agree with you that Orange Julius Caesar would never put himself in the line of real live bullets. generalbetrayus 21 hrs ago #49
He was too cavalier about it. He knew it. Ritabert 20 hrs ago #63
Your explanation is the correct one MustLoveBeagles 20 hrs ago #56
He knew he wasn't in danger. Ritabert 20 hrs ago #66
His life was never in danger JokeHer 19 hrs ago #84
Seriously? Anytime live bullets are flying, the lives of everyone in the general target range Ms. Toad 19 hrs ago #85
One agent hid behind him with the SS. Melon 21 hrs ago #45
I wish you'd post some images that illustrate the scarring. I've never been able to see it, but maybe I Crunchy Frog 21 hrs ago #35
I don't go hunting for them. Ms. Toad 21 hrs ago #38
+1 demmiblue 21 hrs ago #42
Ms. Toad, what I was thinking when this happened... jmowreader 20 hrs ago #55
That could well be. Ms. Toad 19 hrs ago #88
yeah I like it was a puppy nip or box cutter just enough of the slice to make it flow. n/t SonOfNebanaube 17 hrs ago #107
I agree though the situation is really, really off. Seriously off. Jbraybarten 1 hr ago #153
K & R Emile 22 hrs ago #15
He is an evil being purr-rat beauty 22 hrs ago #17
I'm an athiest Bettie 19 hrs ago #79
It's gotta be tough to carry water for that boy Torchlight 22 hrs ago #19
I never doubted it Tree Lady 22 hrs ago #21
The same Secret Service that didn't secure the area before the assassination attempt? EdmondDantes_ 21 hrs ago #29
Obviously our country needs Tree Lady 19 hrs ago #86
The same one or ones who crouched behind trump after the gunshots Melon 17 hrs ago #110
I'm so old sarisataka 21 hrs ago #24
Remember when DU was the "reality-based community"? Jedi Guy 19 hrs ago #90
Yours is the first post in this thread I've found that sounds sane. nt LAS14 19 hrs ago #97
Making liberals look like nutty conspiracy theorists and extremists helps the right-wing. betsuni 11 hrs ago #127
I've been saying this exact thing for years on this site... Fix The Stupid 1 hr ago #150
lol, this nonsense is nothing. 9/11 truthers used to run rampant years ago. tritsofme 8 hrs ago #130
I remember when I was told I was intellectually inferior for saying Epstein didn't kill himself. Scrivener7 8 hrs ago #132
The USSS is trained to cover the president with their own bodies. If it wasn't staged the USSS never would have... usaf-vet 21 hrs ago #25
That crew was completely incompetent Melon 14 hrs ago #124
I keep thinking of the My Lai Massacre KT2000 21 hrs ago #26
Green Light To All Iranian Assassins 2na fisherman 21 hrs ago #28
Thank you for the sanity. hamsterjill 21 hrs ago #30
He probably has. MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #96
+1000 hamsterjill 18 hrs ago #99
How is it that people here don't understand that cartilage doesn't regenerate? Crunchy Frog 21 hrs ago #31
Way too many "marks" have fallen time and time again for the con man's tricks Blue Owl 21 hrs ago #32
Zero scars on that ear. Blue Full Moon 21 hrs ago #33
Upthread it was declared that scarring is evident Orrex 20 hrs ago #75
and Epstein wasn't suicide. Time will tell Evolve Dammit 21 hrs ago #34
Nothing is past the grifter. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #36
Absolutely staged shooting, and he set up and sacrificed 2 people to win. Greybnk48 21 hrs ago #37
You are advocating an impossible, irrational Conspiracy Theory. MervinFerd 21 hrs ago #40
Not impossible at all. There are many ways it could have been pulled off and many analyses showing the official story is LymphocyteLover 2 hrs ago #147
I have no opinion as to whether the assassination attempt was staged or not. ShazzieB 21 hrs ago #43
I had a vision after accidentally inhaling chem-trails emitted from a black helicopter that told me the same thing! tritsofme 21 hrs ago #44
The bullet fired by the shooter traveled approx 3,200 ft per second, which is faster that the speed of sound Martin Eden 21 hrs ago #47
I don't know about AI hearing loss sarisataka 20 hrs ago #68
I'm no expert, so I may have misconstrued the answer from AI Martin Eden 20 hrs ago #76
Most likely it is just a poor AI response sarisataka 20 hrs ago #77
AI May Have Said That ProfessorGAC 19 hrs ago #81
I loved how the blood splattered in the opposite direction of the bullet and with Hollywood movie blood too ffr 21 hrs ago #50
Not the corporate media, nor his tireless defenders Orrex 20 hrs ago #71
Just wait one darn second there! Javaman 20 hrs ago #54
Well, as for whether or not his ear was damaged and completely healed, I see a possible small ding generalbetrayus 20 hrs ago #57
Let's not forget about all our assets/spys offed during first stolen term. tazcat 20 hrs ago #69
tRump is not a builder, he's a destoyer. BigmanPigman 19 hrs ago #80
It was total bullshit MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #83
That FAT SLOB of a cowardly draft-dodging scumbag some_of_us_are_sane 19 hrs ago #87
Maybe the question should be does anyone doubt Trump would do ANYTHING to maintain power?? NoMoreRepugs 19 hrs ago #94
Somehow the GOP made a silk purse outta that sow's ear Blue Owl 18 hrs ago #101
And dead schoolchildren murdered here in America? Trump says: 'get over it.' Norrrm 18 hrs ago #103
You don't seem to understand Cirsium 18 hrs ago #105
The greatest "evidence" of a fake assassination attempt... Escape 17 hrs ago #108
Either he didn't know that he was in danger, or he knew that he wasn't in danger Orrex 6 hrs ago #137
so... how was this staged? Takket 17 hrs ago #109
Stop! Who are you people????? What's happening to this website???? nt LAS14 17 hrs ago #112
Numerous unresolved irregularities abound. Orrex 17 hrs ago #116
Bannon set it up and did not care if turd died or not because Bannon wins either way krawhitham 15 hrs ago #122
And it allowed for this parade of bs jfz9580m 13 hrs ago #125
IOW.... MorbidButterflyTat 1 hr ago #154
To tilt Hungarian election, Russians proposed staging assassination attempt To aid Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor usonian 12 hrs ago #126
And today I hear that Russian intelligence... returnee 9 hrs ago #128
I told my son: " Trump just won the election" mainer 8 hrs ago #134
I believe it was a real assassination attempt, but he capitalized on it. JohnnyRingo 7 hrs ago #136
Kooky CT nonsense Fiendish Thingy 5 hrs ago #138
Thanks for the kick Orrex 5 hrs ago #139
Right. MorbidButterflyTat 1 hr ago #155
So, was Trump in on the plot? Fiendish Thingy 58 min ago #157
Find one post in which someone has claimed that the dead were crisis actors Orrex 30 min ago #158
Statler and Waldorf ain't too happy about this one. Torchlight 2 hrs ago #143
Some words that would cause me to have a visit with the Secret Service. chouchou 2 hrs ago #144
If it wasn't clear before 1/6, it certainly was after, that he would easily take whatever action needed for himself Jbraybarten 1 hr ago #152

rampartd

(4,592 posts)
1. trump's miracle ear fulfills the prophecy of revelations 13 :3
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 04:45 PM
23 hrs ago

i think they consciously message this kind of "left behind" bull shit for the benefit of his evangelicals. the troops have all been told that this is the battle of armageddon.

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

MyOwnPeace

(17,542 posts)
23. I had read that some of his 'supporters'
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:56 PM
22 hrs ago

claimed that he was 'protected and saved' by God.

My question has always been: Why was God pissed of at the fireman sitting behind him and let him die?

Bettie

(19,655 posts)
78. He died for his orange idol
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:53 PM
20 hrs ago

his version of god was a grown ass orange man in a diaper spewing hate.

popsdenver

(2,235 posts)
100. They will all tell you, their "Classic" answer
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 09:22 PM
18 hrs ago

"The Lord Works In Mysterious Ways".......................

Grim Chieftain

(1,685 posts)
151. It wasn't the Lord working in mysterious ways
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 02:14 PM
1 hr ago

It was Satan. The rat bastard is still alive and destroying everything he touches.

bobalew

(431 posts)
120. Hell, when I was kid I modelled that "Beast*
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 11:54 PM
16 hrs ago

with 13 heads in plasticine for church, It was an art piece to behold!

BobsYourUncle

(214 posts)
135. Yeah! The miracle ear.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 07:53 AM
8 hrs ago

My dermatologist took a piece of whitish growth from my ear early this year; covered it with a tiny piece of bandaid that I removed the second day…it was two and a half weeks before the scab came off! I heal pretty quickly and the specimen was about the size of a pinky finger nail clipping.

Bullet wound my ass!

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,267 posts)
148. I believe that is supposed to be the Antichrist it happens to.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 02:06 PM
1 hr ago

I guess they don’t read their Bibles.

rampartd

(4,592 posts)
156. they like him as the anti christ
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 02:36 PM
1 hr ago

as long as he gathers the jews in israel.

they think "no one knows the day" means they can speed it up by forcing reality into the prophecy.

Easterncedar

(6,197 posts)
2. Putin's plan for Orban to do the same was just discovered
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 04:50 PM
23 hrs ago

Stage an assassination attempt, unify your support during an election. Classic.

MadameButterfly

(4,034 posts)
52. Interesting that Russia and the US are both backing Orban
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:54 PM
21 hrs ago

and the country isn't flipping out over this

ashredux

(2,927 posts)
7. It was obviously.... Staged.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:10 PM
22 hrs ago

Two things, one if your ear is nicked, it does not heal back like nothing happened to it, there is always scarring and it doesn’t grow back.

Next, if someone just shot you and nicked your ear, you wouldn’t then stand up and give a fist bump to the crowd.

And lastly, the blood trail…. That’s not how reality looks, it was too clean down the side of the face, and actually a lot of blood. He had a fake blood capsule already behind the ear and just busted it when he put his hand up. Classic movie stuff.

Delmette2.0

(4,501 posts)
53. If Trump is on aspirin or prescription blood thiner
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:55 PM
21 hrs ago

The healing process is a bit longer also.
There would have been a scab for over a week and then a nice pink scar.

Conjuay

(3,057 posts)
73. All I know is that we had 3 stray cats fixed.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:33 PM
20 hrs ago

Ten years later their ears are still nicked.

3catwoman3

(29,341 posts)
106. I thought it odd that the Secret Service agents did not keep him...
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 09:50 PM
18 hrs ago

...down on the ground. There were surely enough of them to do so. I doubt TSF would be strong enough to overcome the efforts of 3-4 agents who are likely in very good shape.

141. But how would he have raised his fist and said, "Fight, fight, fight"
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:55 PM
3 hrs ago

If the SS was actually doing their job?

This reminds me of 9-11, when Dubya was not immediately hustled out of classroom (remember the deer in the headlights look on his face when a staffer told him what was going on?), but then stood in front of a school assembly and declared, "We're going to get the folks who did this."

Dubya then said he was returning straight to Washington. What he actually did was fly to Minot AFB in North Dakota

mercuryblues

(16,387 posts)
8. I wasn't very vocal about it, when it happened,
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:11 PM
22 hrs ago

I am not sure it was staged. but it would not surprise me.

Let me just say this...the gun that was used, you don't "graze" an ear. There would be noticeable scarring.

Ms. Toad

(38,577 posts)
16. There is.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:41 PM
22 hrs ago

Anyone looking at photos of his ear can see it, especially if you have seen scarring from cartilage damage up close - as I have.

And gun damage isn't binary (zero damage or total obliteration) There is always an area in which there is a gradation of damage between the zero damage and total obliteration. Not to mention that it is entirely conceivable that a chip from something hit directly which bounced up and hit his ear. Neither scenarios (both of which are far more likely than that a "near miss" was staged in a constantly moving scene) suggest that the threat was not real.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,472 posts)
92. I have more of a scar on my ear cartilage from getting my ears pierced.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:41 PM
19 hrs ago

And I've seen it up close.

mercuryblues

(16,387 posts)
98. I agree, he was most likely
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 09:06 PM
18 hrs ago

hit by shrapnel. Bullets are very hot; they also leave gunshot residue behind.

Even Trump isn't dumb enough to go along with a fake assassination attempt. But this is Trump we are talking about.

He is narcissistic enough to take full advantage of it. At the expense of the guy who actually was shot and killed.

Dave says

(5,411 posts)
113. I do not see any scarring of his right ear
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 10:15 PM
17 hrs ago

But, then, I don’t look at pics of the prez more than a second.

Trueblue Texan

(4,427 posts)
61. and the blood was on his CHEEK.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:17 PM
20 hrs ago

The blood should have been splattered behind his ear. It's true he could have dragged the blood forward onto his cheek with his hand, but there should have been blood in his hair, behind his ear. I never saw any. Did anyone else? Also, was his hand bloody? I don't recall that.

Orrex

(67,079 posts)
140. It's amazing that the secret service stood him up like that in the line of fire
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 11:18 AM
4 hrs ago

Before the scene was definitively secured.

One would expect them to keep him covered and protected as they quickly drag him from the site without posing for campaign poster photos along the way.


But I admit, now that you’ve given me cause to reflect, that smashing a fake blood capsule with one’s hand would seem likely to leave fake blood on one’s hand.

Ms. Toad

(38,577 posts)
82. I take it you've never cut yourself,
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:06 PM
19 hrs ago

and watched how long it takes for blood to appear? It's not instantaneous. Wound to ear, huddled down with SS, at which time the blood starts to flow in the direction of gravity (i.e. down his cheek)

Ms. Toad

(38,577 posts)
9. The ear is scarred, in every image I have seen of it since the incident.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:18 PM
22 hrs ago

And do you seriously believe Trump would subject himself to the personal risk of a shot which misses his brain by millimeters for political gain?

Yes, he is a murderer, a liar, a coward, etc. And would do anything that does not require bravery to maintain control over the US. But connecting his character defects to an incident in which an innocent person lost his life and alleging it was just a stunt (which would require bravery far beyond anything this monster possesses) is a step too far.

Jedi Guy

(3,471 posts)
10. Thank you for being a voice of reason and common sense.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:25 PM
22 hrs ago

I've noticed it's a role you frequently step into and you do so very well.

It's really sad to see this kind of kooky conspiracy nonsense taken seriously around here.

Ms. Toad

(38,577 posts)
14. I take a lot of guff for it, too.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:36 PM
22 hrs ago

But it's better to speak up when we're engaging in conspiracy nonsense than to let it continue unchecked.

Orrex

(67,079 posts)
70. Well, I suppose that's one way to put it.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:30 PM
20 hrs ago

Perhaps you'll next assure us that those pics of Trump with bikini-clad children are photoshopped, too.

Jedi Guy

(3,471 posts)
89. "Perhaps you'll next assure us that those pics of Trump with bikini-clad children are photoshopped, too."
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:18 PM
19 hrs ago

Perhaps next you could kindly refrain from putting words in my mouth. I don't know where those words have been.

But that is a neat little rhetorical trick, though, I'll give you that. Suggesting that because I don't subscribe to kooky conspiracy nonsense about the assassination attempt I must therefore necessarily disbelieve the horrific allegations in the Epstein files, even though the two things have nothing whatsoever to do with one another.

Orrex

(67,079 posts)
91. The kooky theory is that an unhealthy bag of shit healed from a bullet wound in three days
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:26 PM
19 hrs ago
That is the extraordinary claim, and that is the claim that requires extraordinary evidence.


To date, that evidence has not been put forth.

Jedi Guy

(3,471 posts)
111. Hm.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 10:10 PM
17 hrs ago

I guess there's absolutely nothing extraordinary about claiming that a guy who's a known coward allowed someone to fire live ammunition at his head in public and, in the process, ended up killing an innocent bystander. There's absolutely nothing extraordinary about claiming that the individuals involved in this nefarious plot have all kept mum despite his previous and current administrations leaking like sieves and blabbing to the media constantly.

Yes, that all seems much more reasonable than a minor wound to the ear healing in a few days...

Orrex

(67,079 posts)
115. How many of them have blabbed about Trump raping children?
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 10:33 PM
17 hrs ago

Your assumption that "the individuals involved in this nefarious plot" would have spilled the beans is premature; strong, ongoing evidence exists that his regime is kept mum about the rape allegations against him, notwithstanding this and other administrations leaking like sieves.

As for your "known coward" comment:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221118598#post108

And that's on top of the fact that his blood sprayed in the wrong direction for a wound resulting from a bullet fired toward him from the front.

What follows here is indeed speculation: Trump may have been told that the shooter would use blanks, and that he was to slap a blood capsule to his ear when he heard the shots. I offer no evidence of this; it's admittedly pure speculation that incidentally is not inconsistent with observable events.



EdmondDantes_

(1,749 posts)
117. Your claim falls apart when you realize those aren't comparable situations
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 11:09 PM
16 hrs ago

The attempted assassination or as you want to believe, staged attempted assassination would be a plot the Trump campaign was involved with.

The other claims that he sexually assaulted children are from a time when there wasn't a campaign so the campaign staff wouldn't be aware because they weren't there. Unless you believe that the campaign staff was providing the kids which there's not even a claim of as far as I know.

Orrex

(67,079 posts)
118. You are mistaken
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 11:16 PM
16 hrs ago

You insist that the two are dissimilar, but you are considering the wrong aspects of each.

The Trump/Epstein coverup is happening right now in real time; elements of Trump's DOJ (up to and including Bondi herself) have been shown to be actively covering for him, through questionable redactions, dubious omissions, directly contradictory claims, and straight up stonewalling.

It's not simply a matter of what Trump did years or decades ago; the literal conspiracy to protect him is going on before our eyes. How can it be that none of these people have blabbed, if in your view such leaks are inevitable and certain to be plentiful?

I make no claim about Trump's current staff providing children for him; that is an element of your incorrect focus.

Jedi Guy

(3,471 posts)
121. "How many of them have blabbed about Trump raping children?"
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:31 AM
15 hrs ago

Well, since they weren't present when it happened I think we can dismiss this question with prejudice.

And that's on top of the fact that his blood sprayed in the wrong direction for a wound resulting from a bullet fired toward him from the front.

Except that blood spatter analysis when practiced by supposed "professionals" is viewed as a pseudoscience at best and nonsense at worst. Thus I don't attach significant weight to your interpretation of this particular event.

What follows here is indeed speculation: Trump may have been told that the shooter would use blanks, and that he was to slap a blood capsule to his ear when he heard the shots. I offer no evidence of this; it's admittedly pure speculation that incidentally is not inconsistent with observable events.

Except no camera caught evidence of a blood capsule in his hand as far as I'm aware even though multiple cameras were focused on him. If he's a feeble old man who stumbles going up and down stairs that kind of legerdemain seems beyond him, wouldn't you think? And if Trump was in on the scam and was told they'd be using blanks, who's the shadowy mastermind who made the decision to switch to live ammo? Why did they do so?

And what of the shooter? An active shooter taking shots at the POTUS is not going to be given a "freeze, hands up!" He's just going to be ventilated. Even if he's shooting blanks, responding law enforcement or Secret Service aren't going to know that and will use lethal force. So the guy doing the shooting willingly gave up his life for this supposed staged assassination? Even allowing for the notion that Trump fans aren't entirely rational actors, that's pushing it.

Occam's Razor suggests that a legitimate assassination attempt is correct as it requires far fewer wild assumptions than a staged assassination attempt so that's where I've landed.

In any case, I think I'm about done pounding this topic into the digital dirt with you. It's very clear to me that you did not arrive at your position via reason and, therefore, reason will not move you from it and it would be a waste of my time to continue trying to persuade you.

Orrex

(67,079 posts)
129. Fair enough
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 07:03 AM
8 hrs ago

For the record, my understanding is the "blood-spatter analysis is pseudoscience" applies to the methodology of tracing bullet patterns around a scene after the fact, not from observing blood exiting an actual (purported) wound in real time. If that's not the case, then I can happily withdraw that particular objection about Trump's oddly crayola-colored "blood" or its limited quantity issuing from so blood-rich an area.

As for reason? I noted above that numerous unresolved irregularities about. Your posts have done nothing to change that; you've simply recited The Official Story.

Orrex

(67,079 posts)
131. Also..
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 07:11 AM
8 hrs ago

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Well, since they weren't present when it happened I think we can dismiss this question with prejudice.


Ah yes, argument by assertion! Long a favorite of Official Story boosters.

As noted above, whether they were present for or involved in Trump's raping of children is irrelevant; they are present and actively involved in the coverup of vast amounts of evidence of those crimes.

So your dismissal with prejudice is, in fact, simply wishful thinking.

Maru Kitteh

(31,730 posts)
11. I agree with you. Also, the bag of dicks he hangs out with could NEVER
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:31 PM
22 hrs ago

exercise the discipline and intelligence necessary to carry out such an elaborate plan and then keep it secret. They are not capable or competent persons.

Ritabert

(2,395 posts)
12. You underestimate his desire to stay in power.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:31 PM
22 hrs ago

His actions after the "attempt" show it was fake. Nobody stands up for a fist pump with an artfully arranged flag behind him for a memorial photo which appeared on merchandise within days. No real Secret Service agent would allow him to do it. Contrast that with the Reagan assassination attempt. The SS covered him with their bodies and whisked him into the limo immediately.

Ms. Toad

(38,577 posts)
13. Those were live bullets.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:34 PM
22 hrs ago

You really expect me to believe that Trump, a coward, would put himself in the line of real live bullets (which indisputably killed someone)?

His actions after the attempt show only how stupid he is, in focusing on a photo opportunity - rather than realizing his life was likely still in danger.

ProfessorGAC

(76,620 posts)
18. Right With You
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:47 PM
22 hrs ago

In his case, the simplest explanation is the default position of him being an idiot.
In fact, even the fist bump was more likely one of his handlers telling him to do that without checking with Secret Service.
Stupid surrounding stupid.
There is a mountain of evidence that he is a dope. Not much reason to look deeper when stupid explains everything.

Ritabert

(2,395 posts)
22. My guess is the shooter thought he had blanks.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:55 PM
22 hrs ago

The gun could have been left for him on the roof. Security obviously wasn't doing its job.

sarisataka

(22,650 posts)
46. This entire thread is an embarrassment
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:43 PM
21 hrs ago

It seems to have been forgotten what actually happened that day. People died.

BidenRocks

(3,229 posts)
58. Prove it!
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:12 PM
20 hrs ago

Chump has done nothing to warrant any trust.
Just show us the bodies and a credible M.E. autopsy, if there is a body
I retired from the entertainment industry.
These were practical effects. Looks real.

I need proof! That's how much I distrust this country!
Suckers and losers, eh?

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,472 posts)
95. How about hospital records of Piggy's heroic survival?
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:47 PM
19 hrs ago

A doctor's name? Drugs and treatment prescribed?

Anything??

EdmondDantes_

(1,749 posts)
72. So the shooter either couldn't remember to grab the clip with the blanks
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:32 PM
20 hrs ago

Or did everyone other than Trump know they were going to use real bullets? Or it's a conspiracy theory that relies on a lot of unfounded assumptions.

Ritabert

(2,395 posts)
93. The guy was recruited and was told there would be blanks.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:43 PM
19 hrs ago

Somebody left the rifle for him on the roof and he shot in the direction of the victim. SS shot him dead.

EdmondDantes_

(1,749 posts)
102. So is your theory that the shooter thought he had blanks and the Trump team knew he had real bullets and
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 09:23 PM
18 hrs ago

Trump voluntarily let someone shoot at him with real bullets or that the Trump team told the shooter and Trump it was going to be live bullets and Trump just went along after he was either nicked in the ear or hit by glass and never fired anybody? That's not a particularly logical theory from everything we know about that collection of nitwits.

generalbetrayus

(1,824 posts)
49. I agree with you that Orange Julius Caesar would never put himself in the line of real live bullets.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:50 PM
21 hrs ago

My only countering idea is that maybe one or more of his campaign officials dreamed up the "assassination" attempt without telling the dotard. Like some of those clowns would really give a shit if the shooter misfired and took out the target instead of just clipping his external ear.

MustLoveBeagles

(16,217 posts)
56. Your explanation is the correct one
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:07 PM
20 hrs ago

He's guilty of a lot of things but this isn't one of them. He wouldn't put himself on physical danger for any reason nevermind a publicly stunt. He's a coward.

JokeHer

(48 posts)
84. His life was never in danger
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:10 PM
19 hrs ago

And he knew that… this why he was “so brave” to wave his fist and push off the secret service so he could get his photo op! That man is THE biggest coward, if anything about that shooting had been real, trump would have been throwing woman and children in front of himself!!!

Ms. Toad

(38,577 posts)
85. Seriously? Anytime live bullets are flying, the lives of everyone in the general target range
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:12 PM
19 hrs ago

of the shooting is in danger, including Trump.

Melon

(1,512 posts)
45. One agent hid behind him with the SS.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:43 PM
21 hrs ago

Let’s not pretend they were the crack outfit that the US employed for decades. Half of them honestly didn’t look like the knew what to do. They let him put his shoe on as well. It was just a cluster.

Crunchy Frog

(28,264 posts)
35. I wish you'd post some images that illustrate the scarring. I've never been able to see it, but maybe I
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:25 PM
21 hrs ago

just don't know what to look for.

Ms. Toad

(38,577 posts)
38. I don't go hunting for them.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:32 PM
21 hrs ago

I just look at the images posted here claiming no scarring.

In general, look for an area on the ear that is whiter than the surrounding area. If you drew a rectangle around his right ear, the scarring is at the upper left corner of the triangle.

jmowreader

(53,163 posts)
55. Ms. Toad, what I was thinking when this happened...
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:03 PM
20 hrs ago

You remember that right after the shot rang out his Secret Service detail slammed him to the ground. I suspect what REALLY happened was he hit his ear on a corner of the podium base.

Ms. Toad

(38,577 posts)
88. That could well be.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:16 PM
19 hrs ago

But the details as to how he was injured don't change the nature of the incident. Someone was shooting live bullets in his general direction.

My personal experience with cartilage injury - and how the scarring looks - was with my daughter swinging her ear into a sharp corner on the leg of a piano. She later pierced her cartilage - and I've often joked that if I'd known she would pierce her cartilage a couple of decades later I'd have had the doctor stitch it up around an earring.

But since the video shows him reaching up and grabbing his ear, I tend to think the injury occurred while bullets were flying.

SonOfNebanaube

(114 posts)
107. yeah I like it was a puppy nip or box cutter just enough of the slice to make it flow. n/t
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 09:59 PM
17 hrs ago

Jbraybarten

(264 posts)
153. I agree though the situation is really, really off. Seriously off.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 02:19 PM
1 hr ago

The fact that he was allowed to raise his arm. The video shortly after it happened where the media is directed to go to a specific spot to take pictures, the fact that no medical info was given by the hospital (or any real doctor). The fact that all of it was pushed away... and he only mentions during the high profile RNC after it for peak effect, but then never? Really? Him? Never?

This stinks. Something ain't right.

purr-rat beauty

(1,229 posts)
17. He is an evil being
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:41 PM
22 hrs ago

And even though I am not religious, he fits the image of the Anti_Christ to a Tee

Bettie

(19,655 posts)
79. I'm an athiest
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:01 PM
19 hrs ago

but I find it tremendously amusing that the "Christians" don't see that they wear his sign on their foreheads....and that he ticks literally every box in their anti-christ checklist.

I do lean toward it being staged and I have zero doubt that they would sacrifice one of his super fans for a photo-op.

Torchlight

(6,776 posts)
19. It's gotta be tough to carry water for that boy
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:49 PM
22 hrs ago

I envy the discipline it would take, but relieved I lack the particular absence of character required for the Statlers and Waldorfs to illustrate such a devoted and consistent concern for his almost perfcet well-being. Washington's a big town. Internet's a big place.

Tree Lady

(13,263 posts)
21. I never doubted it
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 05:50 PM
22 hrs ago

I totally think it was staged because no way would secret service ever let a president who has just been shot at get up and raise his arm like that. It's against every rule and for those that say Trump made them let him up, when it comes to being shot at secret service is suppose take over and keep him down.

EdmondDantes_

(1,749 posts)
29. The same Secret Service that didn't secure the area before the assassination attempt?
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:19 PM
21 hrs ago

The same secret service that had to relieve 11 agents of their duties on a foreign trip with Obama because they were distracted by hiring prostitutes?

They aren't perfect. Usually still more than good enough, but not perfect.

Melon

(1,512 posts)
110. The same one or ones who crouched behind trump after the gunshots
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 10:06 PM
17 hrs ago

It was an incompetent cluster. He even put his shoe back on. I hope that entire team was fired for the good of our future presidents.

betsuni

(29,044 posts)
127. Making liberals look like nutty conspiracy theorists and extremists helps the right-wing.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 04:34 AM
11 hrs ago

Everyone should remember: Don't be the enemy they want. Don't fall for it.

Too much to ask in this post-fact environment, probably.

Fix The Stupid

(1,000 posts)
150. I've been saying this exact thing for years on this site...
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 02:09 PM
1 hr ago

It is SO obvious when it is happening...

They will take the left's position and stretch it right out to loony land so people can point to this site or those posts and say "See??? See how demented and out of touch the liberals are!!"...

There is one here that is VERY good at it...

tritsofme

(19,886 posts)
130. lol, this nonsense is nothing. 9/11 truthers used to run rampant years ago.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 07:10 AM
8 hrs ago

But this stuff isn’t far off.

Scrivener7

(59,441 posts)
132. I remember when I was told I was intellectually inferior for saying Epstein didn't kill himself.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 07:26 AM
8 hrs ago

And now ...

Well, seems like there is a lot more to that story than we were originally allowed to see.

Here's what we know about the "assassination attempt":
* a 20 year old maga kid who worked in the kitchen of an old age home was able to outwit the United States Secret Service and breach the security perimeter - by a lot - while carrying a gun bag. He was able to climb up on top of a white building while being dressed all in black, without being stopped.
*Said 20 year old, again dressed all in black, lay on top of the white building long enough for numerous rally attendees to point him out to police. No one did anything about him.
* The secret service knew he was on top of the building for 20 minutes before the shots, but did nothing about him. https://abcnews.com/US/trump-assassination-attempt-investigation-continues-new-details/story?id=112020474
*After the shot, the secret service violated ALL of it's own protocols to allow the target to stand exposed so a photo could be taken. This was before they could possibly have known that the threat was over.
*After the shot, there is video that is widely available of a secret service agent ushering photographers to a spot where the optimal photo could be taken, again before they could possibly have known the threat was over.
*The wound, which required a maxi pad in the first few days, was miraculously healed a week later, leaving no scab and no scar, despite the fact that the recipient is an old man with obvious health problems.
*We have just learned about a Russian plan to stage an identical event to help Orban get elected.

Sorry but all this adds up to make me ask, "What the hell went on there?"


usaf-vet

(7,802 posts)
25. The USSS is trained to cover the president with their own bodies. If it wasn't staged the USSS never would have...
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:13 PM
21 hrs ago

.... let him stand straight up with a raised fist. IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTION ABOUT A SECOND SHOOTER.

In my honest opinion, it was a totally staged event. What happened to the "shooter"?

KT2000

(22,136 posts)
26. I keep thinking of the My Lai Massacre
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:16 PM
21 hrs ago

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It was horrendous and people saw it as that. Now, killing of civilians is acceptable with an entire political party condoning it. Then, many worked hard to cover up the massacre but now it is how America fights its wars.

We are not all that anymore, just thugs and murderers.

2na fisherman

(320 posts)
28. Green Light To All Iranian Assassins
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:17 PM
21 hrs ago

Trump once participated in a wrestling performance. Not so sure about a supposedly fake attempt but thousands of jihadist assassins will now be highly motivated to be martyred in service to the elimination of this leader of the Great Satan.

hamsterjill

(17,556 posts)
30. Thank you for the sanity.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:19 PM
21 hrs ago

The asshole is evil and knows no bounds. He'd sell one of his kids if he thought he could make a buck or look good doing it.

Crunchy Frog

(28,264 posts)
31. How is it that people here don't understand that cartilage doesn't regenerate?
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:20 PM
21 hrs ago

Or maybe he was miraculously healed by Gawd.

Blue Full Moon

(3,449 posts)
33. Zero scars on that ear.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:24 PM
21 hrs ago

I liked how they staged photo journalists just behind the stage so they could get that staged photo op.

Orrex

(67,079 posts)
75. Upthread it was declared that scarring is evident
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:38 PM
20 hrs ago

Of course, no pics were offered as evidence. Just a reference to "where to look" if one cares to do their work for them.

Sure. A decrepit almost-80-year-old would heal from a bullet wound with no stitches, no bruising, and (at most) dubious scarring in just three days.


It's clear that some are devoted to the official story.

yellow dahlia

(5,796 posts)
36. Nothing is past the grifter.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:26 PM
21 hrs ago

He is capable of anything. Sure - death is likely to reach a desired outcome. But he clearly gets a sadistic pleasure from the death and destruction of others. I can hear it in his voice as he recites the maiming and injuries and death of others.

Greybnk48

(10,718 posts)
37. Absolutely staged shooting, and he set up and sacrificed 2 people to win.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:28 PM
21 hrs ago

What a psychopathic scumbag.

MervinFerd

(2,110 posts)
40. You are advocating an impossible, irrational Conspiracy Theory.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:33 PM
21 hrs ago

No one doubts Trump, or people around him, would kill.

But, unless you can come up with a remotely plausible "theory of the crime", you are making ridiculous, impossible claims.

LymphocyteLover

(9,810 posts)
147. Not impossible at all. There are many ways it could have been pulled off and many analyses showing the official story is
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 01:56 PM
2 hrs ago

crap

ShazzieB

(22,556 posts)
43. I have no opinion as to whether the assassination attempt was staged or not.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:36 PM
21 hrs ago

I can understand why people think it was, but I haven't looked into the evidence on either side closely enough to decide whether it was. However, I definitely believe him to to be capable of such a thing, as I believe him to be capable of doing just about anything to save his own sorry ass. He would throw absolutely anyone or anything under the bus to save himself, no question.

As I have said many times before, other humans beings are not real to him the way they are to the rest of us. Other people matter to him only insofar as they are useful to him, whether that be to carry out his orders, to perform tasks that he thinks are beneath him, to protect him (i.e., the Secret Service), to provide him with ego boosts and other types of gratification (emotional, sexual, etc.), to provide opportunities for him to increase his wealth, or whatever it is he requires from them. In other words, his valuation of any person is based on what he thinks they can do for him. As soon as someone stops providing what he wants or (God forbid) voices disagreement with or criticism of him, he is through with them, finished, done, kaput, and he will throw them under the nearest bus without a moment's thought.

Granted, some people seem to get away with more than others before being consigned to the trash heap by Trump, but I don't think anyone is invulnerable. Some are more skilled than others at figuring how out to stay in his good graces, but I'm sure the smarter ones know that they too could fall out of favor at any time and do their best to avoid crossing any line that would cause that to happen, wherever that line may be.

tritsofme

(19,886 posts)
44. I had a vision after accidentally inhaling chem-trails emitted from a black helicopter that told me the same thing!
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:43 PM
21 hrs ago

You better watch out, sounds like you stumbled onto something super duper serious!

Martin Eden

(15,581 posts)
47. The bullet fired by the shooter traveled approx 3,200 ft per second, which is faster that the speed of sound
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:47 PM
21 hrs ago

According to AI, a bullet at that speed creates a mini shockwave that would damage hearing if passing within 1.2 meters of a human ear.

If it actually passed within an inch, Trump would certainly have permanent hearing damage in that ear, possibly total loss.

To sustain a slight nick in that ear without severe hearing loss, it would have to be a fragment of a bullet after hitting something else first.

Where is the forensics report that identifies the path of each bullet; objects (including people) that were struck; and the condition of the bullets that were recovered?

sarisataka

(22,650 posts)
68. I don't know about AI hearing loss
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:28 PM
20 hrs ago

But I can tell you from experience a single bullet passing close to your ear (much less than 1.2m) will not cause permanent severe hearing loss.

Martin Eden

(15,581 posts)
76. I'm no expert, so I may have misconstrued the answer from AI
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:42 PM
20 hrs ago

Or not been precise enough with my question. Perhaps the hearing loss pertains only to proximity to the muzzle exit.

I asked the question because it seemed to me a supersonic bullet passing close enough to nick an ear would have some kind of concussive wave.

sarisataka

(22,650 posts)
77. Most likely it is just a poor AI response
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:49 PM
20 hrs ago

A bullet passing at supersonic speed will have a 'crack', the shockwave of travelling faster than sound. A 5.56mm bullet makes a sound about the same as a firecracker when it passes you.

ProfessorGAC

(76,620 posts)
81. AI May Have Said That
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:02 PM
19 hrs ago

So, it may not have required misinterpretation.
But, a physics element to the shockwave you mentioned (which is accurate) is the mass of the object and the density, therefore the volume of air being displaced.
A .30 caliber bullet is only displacing under 1.2 cc of air per centimeter of travel, so over the last 30cm, about 36cc.
Since that is expanding torroidally the pressure drops exponentially. And, only a tiny fraction would enter the ear canal.
So, I'm not convinced enough pressure would be exerted, no matter the velocity, to cause permanent hearing loss.
Besides, even if I'm wrong, how do we know he didn't have gearing damage? I think that hardly a thing they would advertise.

ffr

(23,393 posts)
50. I loved how the blood splattered in the opposite direction of the bullet and with Hollywood movie blood too
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:52 PM
21 hrs ago

What a fucking joke. The media of 50 years ago would have nailed his ass to the wall, but not the corporate media.

Javaman

(65,676 posts)
54. Just wait one darn second there!
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 06:59 PM
20 hrs ago

he would never murder anyone...he always gets someone else to do it.

because at the very center of who he is (he has no heart) he's a coward.

generalbetrayus

(1,824 posts)
57. Well, as for whether or not his ear was damaged and completely healed, I see a possible small ding
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 07:09 PM
20 hrs ago

n his lower ear lobe. Cartilage does not regenerate, but the skin covering it should. I'm not convinced, however. that these images show damage to the cartilage. Lighting could be an issue.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,472 posts)
83. It was total bullshit
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:07 PM
19 hrs ago


This is a photo of Mackenzie Astin. He lost the tip of his right ear in a car accident when he was 22 or 23.

It's actually GONE. But a bullet tapped Piggy so very gently it healed completely, with no scar whatsoever! And never even grazed his giant bloated pumpkin headed scalp!

BUT...maybe he is the Chosen One and his demon god healed him with a Stayfree maxipad. Maybe!

some_of_us_are_sane

(3,138 posts)
87. That FAT SLOB of a cowardly draft-dodging scumbag
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:16 PM
19 hrs ago
STAGED IT. I've ALWAYS thought the same.

(Maybe in history books 40 or 50 years from now, they will release the truth ....if we're still around with that maniac threatening to have the human race gone just because HE'S reaching the end of his grifting sleazy life.)

NoMoreRepugs

(12,047 posts)
94. Maybe the question should be does anyone doubt Trump would do ANYTHING to maintain power??
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 08:44 PM
19 hrs ago

Cirsium

(3,910 posts)
105. You don't seem to understand
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 09:44 PM
18 hrs ago

The states control elections, Trump can't do anything about that! And besides, the courts will rein him in. He won't be able to set up concentration camps or just arbitrarily deport people. There'll be lawsuits involved, and Merrick Garland is working from the bottom up. You have to understand how these systems work. These things take time. You can't get everything you want instantly just because you stomp your feet. The Constitution defines treason in a very specific way. You shouldn't just throw that word around because you don't like Trump. The pendulum is swinging, and the white suburban soccer moms are swinging, as well, and this is a center-right country, so you need to start facing that reality. Not everything on your personal wish list is practical. Don't go off the deep end with these conspiracy theories. We are taking baby steps and we're walking and we're chewing gum and we're doing all of that at the same time. The important thing is that you make sure that your personal vote counts, whatever hoops you have to jump through or whatever the expense is, because after all, it's all about you and your self-expression. Leopards will be eating faces and it will be FAFO time for people who don't follow my advice. It'll be on them and I have no sympathy.

Escape

(457 posts)
108. The greatest "evidence" of a fake assassination attempt...
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 10:01 PM
17 hrs ago

was Trump's immediate behavior. Under the circumstances of a real attempt, Trump would have crawled, cried and shit his pants and his security team would have pounced on him and created a human shield over him until he was protected from any form of threat.

The possibility that Donald Trump took a bullet and then stood up bravely and yelled "Fight! Fight! Fight!" is about the same as if he had run into a house on fire and saved a baby.

We will never know what happened that day, but I am quite confident that a bullet did not touch Trump's ear. I suppose it's possible that some other object, like shrapnel or something, could have. Doubtful, but possible.

We now live with an alternate conspiracy driven media and with a government that manufactures conspiracies daily.

There is no shame in questioning anything and everything we are told.







Orrex

(67,079 posts)
137. Either he didn't know that he was in danger, or he knew that he wasn't in danger
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 08:57 AM
6 hrs ago

Given his lifelong history of cowardice and self-preservation at all costs, it’s unlikely in the extreme that he thrust his head and hands high above his secret service protectors and triumphantly yelled “Fight! Fight! Fight!” in perfect view of photographers who also stood bravely in the line of fire just to snap that pic.

Takket

(23,698 posts)
109. so... how was this staged?
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 10:05 PM
17 hrs ago

I mean, there was a bullet, and the firefighter got hit and killed by it.

So was the plan live ammo, the sniper (who BTW must have agreed to die to bring this staging to fruition) is ordered to take a shot somewhere near drumpf, but be careful not to hit him. and drumpf, when he hears the pop, grabs hit ear and releases the "blood pack" or whatever it is they use from Hollywood?

Orrex

(67,079 posts)
116. Numerous unresolved irregularities abound.
Mon Mar 23, 2026, 10:44 PM
17 hrs ago

Once these are answered, the speculation can end.

And, frankly, the only refutations offered on DU--even in this thread--amount to a chorus of sanctimonious clucking of tongues and finger-wagging.

Some, it's clear, will always tend to cherish The Official Story, whatever The Official Story might be.


If you find the discussion contrary to DU's TOS, I encourage you to alert on it.

jfz9580m

(17,157 posts)
125. And it allowed for this parade of bs
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 02:48 AM
13 hrs ago
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-musk-tech-venture-capital-execs-maga-1235060567/

I always knew Si Valley is right wing plus this spurious type of liberalism with no concern for the environment or economic equality, regulatory oversight, but thin vaguely socially liberal platitudes alone. So it is better they are honest about being ecocidal and on a long enough timeline genocidal if you have no bunker access. They should brutally honest about what they are so their descendants can after coming out of radiation sheltering bunkers try to figure out how to paint the rest of us who woll be long dead and without any descendants as the real problem.

The war Si Valley was actually secretly on the right side of all along! They are the real anti-fascists! Not you you rube!

Hello trashy Willow chip, how may I calculate the correct level of reputation management hustle that does not affect war profiteering nor commodifying other humans’ lives for “health entertainment” etc. My or rather I shoukd say our collective choices after rubbishy Willow chip simulations I run inside my fathead will be distributed in a way predicted by the Central Limit Theorem, with the mean group decisions always unselfishly and cooperatively supporting more profits for Si Valley creeps at huge personal and professional costs to the planet/everyone else because that is universal! That is evolution!

Like the exxon scientists who warned the public about climate change and were ignored, the people trying to alert the public to these nuisances with real science or info..Today it is hard to see how that will be allowed where real. I can see the real safety issues. I find it hard to believe anything will be done about them by that crowd..

Otoh it is not any less real -the actually real science though it must be way more complex than even than climate change..it is easier to imagine finally as these lousy ubiquitous trash technologies hog more space unsolicited.

I don’t know..one feels hagridden and too lobotomized sometimes..oh well..

usonian

(25,095 posts)
126. To tilt Hungarian election, Russians proposed staging assassination attempt To aid Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 03:06 AM
12 hrs ago

Oops. This is getting to be like a bad habit.

WAPO
https://archive.is/yjEBD
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/03/21/hungary-election-interference-russia-orban/

BUDAPEST — In the run-up to Hungary’s pivotal election in April, a unit of Russia’s foreign intelligence service last month began sounding the alarm over plummeting public support for Prime Minister Viktor Orban, whose friendly ties to Moscow have long given the Kremlin a strategic foothold inside NATO and the European Union.

Officers from the intelligence service, or SVR, suggested that drastic action might be necessary — a strategy they called “the Gamechanger.” In an internal report for the SVR obtained and authenticated by a European intelligence service and reviewed by The Washington Post, the operatives proposed a way to “fundamentally alter the entire paradigm of the election campaign” — “the staging of an assassination attempt on Viktor Orban.”

“Such an incident will shift the perception of the campaign out of the rational realm of socioeconomic questions into an emotional one, where the key themes will become state security and the stability and defense of the political system,” the operatives wrote in a report prepared for the SVR’s main unit for political influence operations, Directorate MS, or Active Measures Department.

Snip

The July 2024 campaign-trail attack in which Donald Trump was grazed by a would-be assassin’s bullet resulted in iconic photos of him, praise for his resilience, and a quick bump in his poll numbers, especially among core supporters.

returnee

(921 posts)
128. And today I hear that Russian intelligence...
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 06:44 AM
9 hrs ago

…was considering a fake assassination attempt on Orban to help his election campaign. Hmmmm!!??

JohnnyRingo

(20,854 posts)
136. I believe it was a real assassination attempt, but he capitalized on it.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 08:42 AM
7 hrs ago

I believe the bullet whizzed past his head causing Trump to react and later claim he was shot. He may even have been nicked superficially.
To assume otherwise means he trusted a paid sniper to just barely miss his head and suffer the immediate consequences of death from Secret Service return fire. That's a big ask.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,096 posts)
138. Kooky CT nonsense
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 10:46 AM
5 hrs ago

Why hasn’t he murdered MTG, Massie or Tillis?

Who was in on this plot? Susie Wiles? Stephen Miller? His Secret Service detail?

286 recs is stone cold proof of the social media-induced gullicism (gullibility and cynicism) that permeates American culture today on both the left and right.

Somebody should come up with an opposite to Occam’s Razor - the most complicated explanation is the one that large numbers of people will believe to be true, despite all evidence to the contrary.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,472 posts)
155. Right.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 02:32 PM
1 hr ago

I'm sure out of the billion LIES Piggy and his cult have insulted us with for over a decade, THIS MUST be the truth.

Where's "all the evidence"? How about any evidence?

Hospital reports? Doctors' reports? Ballistics? Forensics?

Oh, and how about a SCAR?

FACT: there is none.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,096 posts)
157. So, was Trump in on the plot?
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 02:58 PM
58 min ago

Being the very stable, undemented genius that he is, I’m sure he could have pulled it off.

Were the dead bodies at the scene just “crisis actors”?

Applying even a modicum of critical thinking to this event raises questions which immediately dispel and debunk any serious notions of a faked assassination.

Orrex

(67,079 posts)
158. Find one post in which someone has claimed that the dead were crisis actors
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 03:26 PM
30 min ago

A moment’s pause and a modicum of critical thought dispel the foolish idea that a sedentary and generally unhealthy ~78 year old would heal from a bullet wound in three days with no stitches, no bruising, and no scar.

Torchlight

(6,776 posts)
143. Statler and Waldorf ain't too happy about this one.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:59 PM
2 hrs ago

They may be asking boss-man for a raise this time tomorrow.

Jbraybarten

(264 posts)
152. If it wasn't clear before 1/6, it certainly was after, that he would easily take whatever action needed for himself
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 02:14 PM
1 hr ago
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