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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMust-read from Ed Zitron, 4/28: AI's Economics Don't Make Sense (It's like if Uber charged users $20/mo for 100 rides)
This is a great read, and not paywalled.
https://www.wheresyoured.at/ais-economics-dont-make-sense/
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AI startups and hyperscalers assumed that theyd be able to get enough people through the door with subsidized, loss-making products to get them hooked on services badly enough that theyd refuse to change once businesses jacked up the prices. They also assumed, I imagine, that the cost of tokens would come down over time, versus what actually happened while prices for some models might have come down, newer reasoning models burn way more tokens, which means the cost of inference has, somehow, gotten higher over time.
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Generative AI subscriptions are like if Uber charged users $20 a month for 100 rides of any distance under 100 miles, and if gas was $150 a gallon, and Uber paid for the gas because somebody insisted that oil would one day be too cheap to meter.
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For the most part, everybody youve read gooning over the many possibilities of generative AI has experienced it without having to pay the true costs. Every Twitter psychopath writing endless screeds about their entire engineering team hammering away at Claude Code has been doing so using a $125-a-month-per-head Teams subscription with similar usage limits to Anthropics $100-a-month consumer subscription. Every LinkedIn gargoyle insisting that theyd done hours of work in minutes using some sort of Perplexity product has done so by paying, at the very most, $200 a month for Perplexitys Max subscription.
In reality, that 10-person, $1250-a-month Teams subscription likely burns anywhere from $5000 to $10,000 a month in API calls, if not more. Anthropic Head of Growth Amol Avasare said last week that its Max subscriptions were built for heavy chat usage rather than whatever people are doing with Claude Code and Cowork, and made it clear that Anthropic is now looking at different options to keep delivering a great experience, which is another way of saying were going to change the prices at some point.
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AI startups and hyperscalers assumed that theyd be able to get enough people through the door with subsidized, loss-making products to get them hooked on services badly enough that theyd refuse to change once businesses jacked up the prices. They also assumed, I imagine, that the cost of tokens would come down over time, versus what actually happened while prices for some models might have come down, newer reasoning models burn way more tokens, which means the cost of inference has, somehow, gotten higher over time.
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Generative AI subscriptions are like if Uber charged users $20 a month for 100 rides of any distance under 100 miles, and if gas was $150 a gallon, and Uber paid for the gas because somebody insisted that oil would one day be too cheap to meter.
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For the most part, everybody youve read gooning over the many possibilities of generative AI has experienced it without having to pay the true costs. Every Twitter psychopath writing endless screeds about their entire engineering team hammering away at Claude Code has been doing so using a $125-a-month-per-head Teams subscription with similar usage limits to Anthropics $100-a-month consumer subscription. Every LinkedIn gargoyle insisting that theyd done hours of work in minutes using some sort of Perplexity product has done so by paying, at the very most, $200 a month for Perplexitys Max subscription.
In reality, that 10-person, $1250-a-month Teams subscription likely burns anywhere from $5000 to $10,000 a month in API calls, if not more. Anthropic Head of Growth Amol Avasare said last week that its Max subscriptions were built for heavy chat usage rather than whatever people are doing with Claude Code and Cowork, and made it clear that Anthropic is now looking at different options to keep delivering a great experience, which is another way of saying were going to change the prices at some point.
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Much, much more at the link, including a long section explaining why data centers have no chance of being profitable.
Ed also brings up the very important point that genAI's hallucinations and failures - and its sycophancy and promises to do things it can't do - will be a LOT less forgivable once individual users and businesses have to pay the actual compute costs of LLMs making all those mistakes.
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Must-read from Ed Zitron, 4/28: AI's Economics Don't Make Sense (It's like if Uber charged users $20/mo for 100 rides) (Original Post)
highplainsdem
Apr 28
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eppur_se_muova
(42,344 posts)1. "Irrational Exuberance" is back, on hyperboost. nt
LuvLoogie
(8,879 posts)2. A.I. is an engineered virus.
It will infect all of our systems, and when the bubble bursts, congress will put the taxpayers on the hook for bailing the tech bros out.
They'll gut what's left of Medicare and Social Security. Many Dems will express concern, but go along cause they bought some insider hype while the tech bros had shell companies shorting the industry stocks.
The bailout will include increased residential subsidizing of data center energy usage rates. The local governors will sign on, because SCOTUS says it's okay for corporations to bribe for tax and regulatory advantage.
The taxpayers will be left holding the bag -
again.