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LymphocyteLover

(10,053 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2026, 05:40 PM Apr 29

Cole Allen Hated the Democratic Party, Too ... Alleged shooter's views are more mainstream than you've been told

Makes sense to me because any avowed Democrat would know how much it would backfire if they tried to kill the POTUS.

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/cole-allen-hated-the-democratic-party

But as I’ve written, Luigi Mangione, Tyler Robinson and now Cole Allen were neither far-left nor on any partisan fringe. Instead, they were united in a sense of frustration with failed institutions defined by inaction — and a determination to embody the opposite through shocking spectacles of action. What nobody in power wants to admit is that the belief that institutions have failed is as mainstream as Taylor Swift, not the fringe radicalism of '70s outfits like the Weather Underground that pundits keep invoking.

Allen, his social media posts reveal, was not singularly focused on Trump. He had plenty of contempt for Democratic leaders too — a contempt for both parties that, far from being fringe, actually puts squarely in the majority of American opinion. By early 2025, the Democratic Party had sunk to historic lows: 27% approval in NBC News polling and 29% at CNN — the lowest in CNN's polling since 1992. A Pew survey found 59% of Democrats disapproved of their own congressional leadership. That’s more than 25 million American voters, according to the latest numbers.

Hating the political establishment may once have made you a member of the radical fringe, but those days are long gone. Strange as it may seem, Allen is, politically speaking, a dime a dozen.

Consider his social media posts.

“If this is the extent to which Democratic leadership is willing to lead, it is time to form an actual third party,” Allen posted on Bluesky on January 21, 2025.

It was one of numerous other similar posts in which Allen called for an alternative to the Democrat and Republican parties.

“At this point might be faster to replace it with a new party … call it the ‘Do Something’ party, idk,” he said in another post, one of countless hints at his frustration with political inaction.

“If this is the level of analysis coming out of the leaders of the dem party!!…might need an entirely new party tbh,” he said in another post.

“I swear the democrat party does not comprehend the concept of priorities…,” he wrote on February 13.

By March, he was calling for the ouster of the top-ranking Democrat in Congress, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.

“Is there such a thing as a vote of no confidence for Senate minority leader?” he posted on March 13.

The day before, Allen was cracking jokes about Schumer’s uselessness.

“Schumer is acting like an rpg [role playing game] player who hoards every single potion, powerup, and consumable he comes across because ‘maybe I’ll need them later,’” he wrote on March 12.
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Wiz Imp

(10,327 posts)
1. He's clearly not a Democrat as he continually uses "Democrat party",
Wed Apr 29, 2026, 05:48 PM
Apr 29

Instead of "Democratic Party". Democrat party is used as a slur against Democrats by right wingers. His use makes him sound like a right winger himself.

RockRaven

(19,694 posts)
3. As soon as I saw his "manifesto" explicitly exempted Keystone Kash, I figured his
Wed Apr 29, 2026, 06:01 PM
Apr 29

allegiances would be muddled/mixed.

Cirsium

(4,078 posts)
4. Yes
Wed Apr 29, 2026, 06:48 PM
Apr 29

That frustration and desperation is really common, and drove the support for Obama, the support for Sanders, and the support for Trump as well. That seems counterintuitive and is difficult to understand for those of us that follow politics at all. It seems just absolutely ridiculous that anyone would support Sanders and then support Trump or vote for Obama and then vote for Trump. What sense does that make?

I can remember back in 2008 being surprised at the support that was coming from white blue collar workers for Obama in a very, very conservative rural district. Jokingly, I would say, "but Rush Limbaugh says Obama's a socialist!" The response? "Well, maybe socialism is what we need!" Again, what kind of sense does that make?

From the outside it looks irrational. How does someone go from Obama to Trump, or from Sanders to Trump? But that only seems absurd if you assume people are making ideological choices. A lot of them aren’t. They’re reacting to a sense that the system isn’t working for them.

The average person does not care about nor understand politics the way that we do. They lack the background, the experience, the historical perspective, and there just are not good available sources of reliable information for people.

It is easy for us to say that the sources are out there, that the information is available if only people would look, if only they weren't lazy. But for most people, everything has now collapsed and they struggle to make sense of anything. Hell, I struggle to make sense of anything that's happening now and I work the problem 24/7 and have for over 50 years. The entire country is coming unglued. Trust in institutions has eroded, reliable sources are harder to identify, and people are constantly bombarded with misinformation. Into that vacuum step actors who are very good at exploiting confusion, fear, and resentment.

We laughed at the absurd claims by the mass media that it was "economic anxiety" that drove people to Trump. Obviously, it was racism and sexism that drove people to Trump. But is it also possible that both are true, that in the context of enormous economic pressure and desperation for 80% of the people in the country, that they are then very, very vulnerable to being played upon with the same old racist and misogynist tropes that the demagogues have always used in American politics.

The disconnect I’m describing isn’t really about the public faces of the party. It’s about the layer underneath—the consultants, strategists, major donors, and institutional players who shape what gets said, funded, and prioritized.

Those people operate inside a closed feedback loop. They talk to each other, read the same polling, consume the same media, and reinforce the same assumptions. From inside that loop, things can feel coherent. From the outside, it often looks like they’re not living in the same country as the voters they must reach.

The direction comes from deeper currents—the consultants, donors, and institutional actors who shape the agenda. That ecosystem is highly attuned to its own priorities, but increasingly detached from the lived reality of the people it’s trying to represent.

So this isn’t about Schumer or Jeffries or any single politician. It’s about the ecosystem that determines what candidates are allowed to be—the consultants, donors, and operatives who set the boundaries of acceptable strategy and message.

Most Democratic elected officials are operating in good faith and are decent people. The problem isn’t their intentions—it’s the system they’re operating within.

The people we see—candidates, officeholders—are not the drivers. They’re the visible edge of a much larger system—leaves tossed on the surface of a broiling ocean of money and power politics.

progressoid

(53,342 posts)
8. This...
Wed Apr 29, 2026, 11:13 PM
Apr 29


And I'll add that Democrats need to run more than just an anti-trump campaign. In the short term, being anti-trump may win, but ultimately we need to offer more. If/when the MAGA coalition is thrown overboard, the boat will need a strong captain and crew with a vision to guide the ship.

LymphocyteLover

(10,053 posts)
10. well said-- great points! Low info voters, a terrible media environment and too much money in politics, have all led us
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 07:20 AM
Apr 30

to this horrible situation we are in now.

Cha

(320,319 posts)
5. Oh Cole was into 3rd party Bullshit..
Wed Apr 29, 2026, 07:19 PM
Apr 29

That's what got us PEDO in the WH in the first place. Jill Stein's LIES about Hillary being the same as the Traitor. Susan Sarandon lied that Hilary was worse. She would start a War.

I posted on Sunday that I wish Cole would have stayed home. He was only making it worse.. Now Sure Enough!!

TY for this.. Cole Allen is Stupid.

JI7

(93,843 posts)
6. People like this aren't looking to improve things
Wed Apr 29, 2026, 07:23 PM
Apr 29

They have this need to feel they are personally going up against certain powers.

Kaleva

(40,412 posts)
11. I don't see in any comment where he said he hated the Democratic Party
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 07:41 AM
Apr 30

I get the impression that he was disappointed in the Party but I don’t see anything that suggests he hated the Party.

Many of his feelings towards the leadership of the Party are expressed by people here at DU.

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