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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***Breaking News*** Janet Mills Suspends Campaign For U.S. Senate
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FarPoint
(14,928 posts)Let me go look this person up...... clueless as to what state, party for starters....
i will be back to help you out.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,986 posts)It's one of the most followed races in the Senate and one of the seats most likely to flip. We are supposed to be the informed ones.
FarPoint
(14,928 posts)News notes say Gov. of Maine suspends Democratic campaign for US Senate...she is 78 years old., ahead of the Primaries......
Mysterian
(6,601 posts)Without time to keep fully informed on every fucking election in the USA.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,986 posts)Mysterian
(6,601 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,986 posts)If he asked me politely to elucidate I would have been more than happy to. We are now filling the thread with off topic information. If you wish to continue our conversation in private, i.e. DU mail, I would be glad to oblige you "
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Prairie Gates
(8,426 posts)She is nearing 80 and should never have been running for a six year term in the first place.
Platner has run a good campaign despite numerous hiccups and a concerted effort by centrists (including close to home - ahem) to kneecap him. He's clearly our best hope of picking up the seat.
bearsfootball516
(6,729 posts)The Democratic party is currently going through a youth and relatability movement, and Maine Dems have made it clear through polling from the past couple months that they want someone younger than Mills, and feel like they can relate better to him than Mills. There's bounds more energy and momentum behind him.
sheshe2
(98,244 posts)He is 82 years old.
EdmondDantes_
(2,010 posts)While I agree Mills shouldn't have been running, I'm not sure why if I were in Maine I'm supposed to ignore a giant red flag like a nazi tattoo with no evidence he's changed given his recent appearance on an antisemitic YouTube show.
Fortunately I'm not a voter in Maine.
2naSalit
(103,792 posts)I am and there's more than one red flag waving in front of the oyster guy and I am not sure I can vote for him in any race.
We'll end up with concerned susan for yet another term, I fear.
W_HAMILTON
(10,423 posts)Think Fetterman.
Think Gabbard.
Think Turner.
I have no doubt that Mills would have been a reliable Democratic vote because she's been a reliable Democrat for decades. And while she was being a reliable Democrat, Platner -- who most people didn't even know just a couple of years ago -- was getting a Nazi tattoo and spouting MAGA-like rhetoric online.
I sure hope we don't get burned again with this guy.
eShirl
(20,383 posts)questionseverything
(11,922 posts)displacedvermoter
(4,921 posts)about his death's head tattoo, I guess.
mcar
(46,281 posts)and I have many concerns about Platner that I have voiced on this site, Democratic Underground.
I thought we were allowed to offer constructive criticism of candidates/elected Democrats. Or is that just reserved for Schumer and Jeffries?
Prairie Gates
(8,426 posts)Push back isn't censorship. Having to defend your position isn't victimhood.
You accused people who have genuine concerns about Platner of "trying to kneecap him." Then you put the words "censorship" and "victimhood" in my mouth - words I never said.
It is a fact that Platner has a Nazi tattoo. It is a fact that he, in the near past, made sexist and racist statements. It is a fact that he claimed that rape victims have to take responsibility for their rapes if they had been drinking prior to their assaults - all the while excusing his Nazi tattoo because he was drunk at the time.
I don't have to defend anything. These are facts.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,490 posts)Vote blue no matter who
mcar
(46,281 posts)I don't live in ME. I hope Platner beats Collins and I hope he is truly reformed. I will exercise my right of constructive criticism.
mr715
(4,009 posts)What could he do, given your criticism, to earn your support?
I suspect the answer is "Nothing, he will never get my support". That means your criticism isn't constructive.
mcar
(46,281 posts)and prove, by his actions, that he has changed.
mr715
(4,009 posts)But it is no longer a viable one. He is going to be the Democratic Senate candidate for ME.
mcar
(46,281 posts)And yes, he is. I will hope he wins and that he follows through on this promises. I will not hesitate to criticize if he does not.
mr715
(4,009 posts)Apologies to Maine and Mainers.
Criticism is good.
dutch777
(5,100 posts)Boo1
(438 posts)He was 82 then.
mr715
(4,009 posts)He didn't win. So it is kinda moot.
Anyone can run, at any age, for whatever reason the spirit moves them.
But the voters didn't select him.
Boo1
(438 posts)He's in the Senate isn't he?
NoRethugFriends
(3,772 posts)MLAA
(19,787 posts)asked about something someone else is not familiar with.
MineralMan
(151,495 posts)Not everyone follows races in every state. In fact, only a few do that.
If someone asks, we can simply answer. Frankly, I pay little attention to races in states like Maine until closer to the election. I was glad to see someone ID the candidate early in this thread. I don't vote there. I don't campaign there. I don't donate there. So, I don't follow elections there closely.
We don't need to criticize other DUers for not knowing every primary candidate in every state. That's just plain unfriendly.
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SocialDemocrat61
(7,959 posts)yorkster
(3,927 posts)Thanks for a much needed laugh.
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MineralMan
(151,495 posts)Sympthsical
(11,078 posts)I'm not sold on Platner either, but boy howdy has it been a thing here the past few months.
2naSalit
(103,792 posts)I have no desire to vote for or be represented by this guy.
Two things that worry me, he'll either lose to collins or be another fetterman because he is sure he knows best with all his inexperience.
Too many red flags on this guy and I can't get behind supporting him. Vertical learning curves don't cut it for me.
FUCK!!!
hlthe2b
(114,479 posts)But, boy, does he (Graham Platner) leave me (and many others) with qualms, given that in his background, which I don't have the time to pull up right now.
Well, we shall see.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,986 posts)At times like this I repeat the Serenity Prayer. Governor Mills endorsed him in her withdrawal statement.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,860 posts)Its 90 minutes long, so hopefully covers everything and anything you might have qualms about.
question everything
(52,316 posts)to follow if one can be found.
LetMyPeopleVote
(181,598 posts)NCDem47
(3,514 posts)I cant keep up with all this. Has Planter said all the right things in this moment and thats why Maine Dems are going with him?
themaguffin
(5,347 posts)a record in office as a mayor, state legislature or in the House. That still doesn't mean that they would be great, but it sure beats someone running for Senate with zero record and coupled with red flags.
I hope this works out. We've been burned too much.
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displacedvermoter
(4,921 posts)short of legendary blue wave. My hope -- or fear? -- is that many Trump voters will kinda dig is earthy demeanor and his frequent slips of the tongue as worth voting for.
I guess I am just a centrist cause I don't like that this is the best we got...
2naSalit
(103,792 posts)Being strong on women's issues like we need. I think he's condescending about our issues and I don't have any good reason to vote for him. He has a steep hill to climb to get my vote. I'm still voting for Mills in the primary, she's going to be on the ballot so I'll be choosing her anyway.
This has ruined my day in a major way.
PatSeg
(53,406 posts)Democrats couldn't come up with a better candidate for Maine. It felt so much like we could win this one if we had a good candidate.
2naSalit
(103,792 posts)I have nothing more to say since I've been alerted on twice now.
Taking a break for a while so...
PatSeg
(53,406 posts)Yep, better to just let it go, as there is nothing we can do about it now.
Ace Rothstein
(3,377 posts)She wasn't even hitting 30%.
bearsfootball516
(6,729 posts)Here's a link to those polls, if you don't believe me.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/maine-us-senate-election-polls-2026.html
Not to mention, he performs better in polling against Collins than Mills does.
bucolic_frolic
(55,681 posts)It takes a quirky hot mess to shake independents and women from Collins ... maybe imperfect medicine will be stronger on election day.
2naSalit
(103,792 posts)All have been novices, I am far ore concerned than collins. Never liked her but this the first time I have a chance to vote against her and look what we get for a contender, mr machoman.
FUCK.
bucolic_frolic
(55,681 posts)But I will add this observation. Opponents did not adequately confront Collins on issues, on her record. Platner seems unapologetic, unabashed, unwilling to be pinned down by his shortcomings. Maybe that confidence gives an element of genuine, of read to get to work over stalled progress. Collins has been stonewalling a long time. That's all I got for you.
2naSalit
(103,792 posts)Winning, first of all. If by some fluke of fate he actually succeeds to the Senate, I don't see him fighting for women's rights, to begin with, and I don't care for his demeanor on other issues. I don't have a good feeling about him at all.
Since Mills will be on the ballot, I will still vote for her. If not, I'll write in her name.
2naSalit
(103,792 posts)Who is funding platner, I have a bad feeling about him.
questionseverything
(11,922 posts)No pac money
Some unions are backing him
2naSalit
(103,792 posts)Still don't like him.
Emile
(43,072 posts)mcar
(46,281 posts)Emile
(43,072 posts)is not cool!
We tear down Democrats here on a daily basis. If we can offer "constructive criticism" about other Dems - you know, like calling them weak, spineless corporatists - we can certainly bring up concerns about a not-yet-nominee who has a Nazi tattoo, which he excuses because he got it when he was drunk. And yet he blames rape victims who've drank alcohol before their assaults and says they have to take responsibility for their rape.
This place slays me sometimes.
riversedge
(81,425 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,708 posts)2naSalit
(103,792 posts)My smell test. I haven't heard unequivocal support for women's issues.
You can berate me all you like on this board, not going to sway how I see things.
Not going to argue with you about it anymore. Have a nice day.
Ace Rothstein
(3,377 posts)I have a feeling she didn't even want to run and was pushed into it by party leaders.
Renew Deal
(85,314 posts)It essentially proved his opinions were genuine.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,986 posts)OLDMDDEM
(3,251 posts)democrank
(12,665 posts)Ben Rhodes, President Obamas Deputy National Security Advisor, recently spent some time with Graham Platner. I think Rhodes wrote something about this. Im looking for that information
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Sounds like the donations to Mills were not quite what she had hoped for.
aocommunalpunch
(4,584 posts)Hes going to be the nominee, so stop with the lack of support for Democratic nominees.
WarGamer
(18,824 posts)mr715
(4,009 posts)Susan Collins is still covered with prison tats. No one is asking her to cover her tattoos up.
RandySF
(85,750 posts)BannonsLiver
(20,801 posts)On one hand the tattoos and past statements are terrible and could be an indicator of future behavior. On the other, he annoys some people who I think have terrible instincts when it comes to politics, or who are overly sanctimonious. Glad Im not voting in Maine. I guess Ill leave it up to Mainers.
Sneederbunk
(17,599 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,377 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,729 posts)Bluestocking
(763 posts)Directly or indirectly. Oh well. At least if indirectly the Dems could potentially control the Senate.
mr715
(4,009 posts)There is nothing to support this.
Platner will likely win the election and he will vote for Democratic leadership.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,708 posts)mr715
(4,009 posts)I know that as much as others know he will not.
Manchin, Sinema, and Fetterman all voted for Democratic leadership.
Ace Rothstein
(3,377 posts)milestogo
(23,173 posts)It gives all of us fewer choices.