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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(136,931 posts)
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:20 PM Monday

CNN Data Guru Warns Trump Support Crashing: 'Absolute Collapse'

CNN’s chief data analyst is sounding the alarm on President Donald Trump’s abysmal poll numbers, saying they amount to an “absolute collapse” among key supporters.

CNN’s Harry Enten said Trump, pushing 80, has watched his approval rating tank in recent months, with his disapproval hitting a record 62 percent as Republican-leaning Independents turn on him.

“We are talking about a very important block [of voters] for the president of the United States—that is Republican-leaning Independents. That is what’s going on," Enten said Monday.

At this point in Trump’s first term, nearly three-quarters of Republican-leaning Independents supported him. Now, support has slipped to just half.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/cnn-data-guru-warns-trump-195957808.html

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CNN Data Guru Warns Trump Support Crashing: 'Absolute Collapse' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday OP
It should be 99% disapproval as the 1 % are the only people he's helping now ! kimbutgar Monday #1
Well keep us posted on your BIL since that is the metric that will apparently determine the mid terms. BannonsLiver 17 hrs ago #15
Agree. I like the use of "neurolinguistically programmed" to describe his BIL erronis 14 hrs ago #34
Republicans don't care. J_William_Ryan Monday #2
I don't think pollsters are keeping up with the exodus from the Republican Party pat_k Monday #3
a shrinking number Cirsium 17 hrs ago #12
I think that pollsters may also be assuming... pat_k 16 hrs ago #20
Would I be the only person who thinks some pollsters (including Gallup) have some agendas? erronis 14 hrs ago #35
Perhaps ITAL 15 hrs ago #31
I hadn't actually seen people sayiing that. pat_k 14 hrs ago #33
I had ITAL 14 hrs ago #37
Maybe, but... OhioTim 2 hrs ago #55
well that will be good for us in November Skittles Monday #6
We'll see how many stupid people Tree Lady Monday #7
So are you expecting a rough mid term for Democrats? BannonsLiver 17 hrs ago #14
It's so much easier for non-thinkers to pull the same levers, time after time. Especially if hubby does so also. erronis 14 hrs ago #36
Just wait for the gladiator fights at the WH on his birthday. That should turn things around for him. Midnight Writer Monday #4
True, that shit will actually work on the fucking booger-eating MAGAt morons. FoxNewsSucks Monday #8
Who gives a fuck what they think. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #27
Yes he'll gain a bazillion new voters and win the mid terms and 14 future terms in the WH. BannonsLiver 17 hrs ago #17
At least the Romans got BREAD and circuses. Ray Bruns 17 hrs ago #18
Those gas prices and hunger Keepthesoulalive 14 hrs ago #40
they finally noticed the emperor is wearing no clothes Skittles Monday #5
Gee, if only someboday warned Americans what was going to happen....... AZ8theist Monday #9
Boy who cries WOLF! WOLF! WOLF! endlessly. usonian 18 hrs ago #10
Maybe he'll just fucking die already Orrex 18 hrs ago #11
It happens Akakoji 17 hrs ago #19
Not nearly enough. travelingthrulife 17 hrs ago #13
Better late than never, I guess. leftyladyfrommo 17 hrs ago #16
But 80% approval from Republicans....shrug n/t hibbing 16 hrs ago #21
That number used to be in the 90s. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #26
$5 dollar gas will kinda do that. paleotn 16 hrs ago #22
We will look back fondly on the days of 5$ gasoline Mysterian 16 hrs ago #24
It's mind-boggling that anyone can support a pure cretin to be their leader Mysterian 16 hrs ago #23
So, why then, are the Republicans in Congress voting in a one billion dollar proviso for his ballroom? Baitball Blogger 16 hrs ago #25
Spare me relogic 15 hrs ago #28
No cheering until after the midterms. Jirel 15 hrs ago #29
Well, As He Knows, He Can Resign at Any Time MineralMan 15 hrs ago #30
a wandering projectile could do wonders dave99 14 hrs ago #38
"Sounding the alarm"? GenThePerservering 14 hrs ago #32
If gas prices maintain its present direction going into Memorial Day Torchlight 14 hrs ago #39
That's not an absolute crash. That's just a slight dip. Kablooie 13 hrs ago #41
Fuck I had no idea Trumps approval rating is up to 90 percent. BannonsLiver 12 hrs ago #43
Actually, 80% of Republicans still approve of him. Kablooie 10 hrs ago #47
It's budged significantly from when it was over 90 a year ago. BannonsLiver 10 hrs ago #49
Unfortunately I doubt many of those voters have really learned not to repeat themselves and make the same mistake. cstanleytech 12 hrs ago #42
So the GOP is in for a successful mid term in your view? BannonsLiver 12 hrs ago #44
I'm simply saying that that independents rarely really learn not to trust Republicans. cstanleytech 11 hrs ago #45
Trump's at 25 percent with independents. BannonsLiver 11 hrs ago #46
Yep. They've learned from Trump. Kablooie 10 hrs ago #48
It's always about the economy. BlueTsunami2018 9 hrs ago #50
Sadly, I don't think Indiana is getting the memo EnergizedLib 8 hrs ago #51
So in NC....... Red Mountain 6 hrs ago #52
You mean the people who've had their faces eaten by leopards are "waking up"? sakabatou 6 hrs ago #53
Dump doesn't give a shit mdbl 6 hrs ago #54

kimbutgar

(27,487 posts)
1. It should be 99% disapproval as the 1 % are the only people he's helping now !
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:25 PM
Monday

But I until I hear my MAGA BIL has turned on him he’ll still have power over the neurolinguistically programmed and they can’t break away. Just like the Jim Jones cult members who share similarities to the 🍊🐖💩 supporters. ( sorry I just can’t write his name)

BannonsLiver

(20,797 posts)
15. Well keep us posted on your BIL since that is the metric that will apparently determine the mid terms.
Tue May 5, 2026, 10:57 AM
17 hrs ago

erronis

(24,358 posts)
34. Agree. I like the use of "neurolinguistically programmed" to describe his BIL
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:45 PM
14 hrs ago

Somehow someone has managed to sneak into some of those layers that aren't reached by rationale thinking.

pat_k

(13,790 posts)
3. I don't think pollsters are keeping up with the exodus from the Republican Party
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:35 PM
Monday

My theory: That 83% approval among Republicans is actually 83% of a shrinking number. When they extrapolate from samples, they make assumptions about the percentages in the population each group represents. The thing is, the percentage of Republicans has been declining quarter over quarter. I don't think pollsters are keeping up.

In other words, while the percentage approval among R's looks "stubborn" that percentage actually reflects fewer and fewer people. Conversely, the high percentage of disapproval among D's, even if it looks stable, actually represents more and more people.

Q1 2026 (ABC report of gallup numbers)
25% Republican
43% Independent
30% Democratic

Average across all quarters 2025 (Gallup)
27% Republican
45% Independent
27% Democratic

The difference from the average over 2025 my not look dramatic, but remember, when looked in the context of the past 23 years, you can see that the percentage of people who self-identify as Republicans has not been as low as it was in the first quarter of this year since 2013.



How dramatic the move is is seen very clearly when you add R+R leaning I's and D+D leaning I's.




Cirsium

(4,065 posts)
12. a shrinking number
Tue May 5, 2026, 10:46 AM
17 hrs ago

Exactly right. "Such and such percentage of Republicans still support Trump" is misleading when the number of people identifying as Republican is shrinking.

pat_k

(13,790 posts)
20. I think that pollsters may also be assuming...
Tue May 5, 2026, 11:28 AM
16 hrs ago

... the percentage of R's is bigger than it is.

The "gold standard" for party affiliation has long been gallup's annual number, which is released at the begining of each year based on interviews conducted over the course of the year.

It is tough to find quarterly numbers. They don't publish them -- at least not directly to the public that I can find. I was VERY surprised to see ABC's first quarter estimates from Gallup in that report.

I suspect they've been seeing a surprising downward trend since the felon took office. I think the first quarter numbers were reported because it has now become clear something "strange' is going on -- i.e., a big exodus. And it's been going on since the felon took office.

The thing is, i'm no expert, but it is my understanding that party affiliation is a very stable thing. It doesn't tend to change much within the same cohort. It does shift as young people are added and older people subtracted over longer periods of time.

So, if, on the assumption party affiliation is pretty stable, pollsters use the annual "gold standard" when they extrapolate from samples, rather than adjusting for every quarter, they are over-estimating his support because they are actually missing the "exodus."






erronis

(24,358 posts)
35. Would I be the only person who thinks some pollsters (including Gallup) have some agendas?
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:47 PM
14 hrs ago

ITAL

(1,357 posts)
31. Perhaps
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:12 PM
15 hrs ago

But for about the last ten years I've seen/read people say that Trump's approval among Republicans is so high only because less people are staying Republican. That has yet to actually show up given gotten more votes every time he's run.

Granted midterms are different, but I am not convinced the GOP is really shrinking.

pat_k

(13,790 posts)
33. I hadn't actually seen people sayiing that.
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:42 PM
14 hrs ago

Between 2015 and the last quarter of 2024, the trend was up and down so anyone saying it was consistently down wasn't looking at numbers.

The consistent downward trend took off after Q4 2024. Since then it has been a steady downward trend for six quarters. At no point prior to that since 2016 has the trend been the same direction for that many quarters. I find that significant.




Sure, maybe we shouldn't get too excited until the gap between D+D leaning I's and R+R leaning I's hits 15 points (that is, a bigger gap than any time since 1991), but I see the current trend as quite significant -- and a good sign. And while the current D+D leaning I's isn't as high as in 2008, I also find it significant that the number of R+R leaning I's is at the same low level of 39% -- lowest since 1991 at least.

ITAL

(1,357 posts)
37. I had
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:57 PM
14 hrs ago

They may not have been looking at actual figures, but I've read it dozens of times through the years.

OhioTim

(396 posts)
55. Maybe, but...
Wed May 6, 2026, 01:41 AM
2 hrs ago

many of the polls I have seen while showing Trump's numbers going down, those people are not going to the Democrats. They're either going to hold their noses and vote for Republicans, becoming "temporary" independents or thinking about sitting our certain elections.

Tree Lady

(13,377 posts)
7. We'll see how many stupid people
Mon May 4, 2026, 11:37 PM
Monday

Still vote republican in red states in November, I bet most of them.

erronis

(24,358 posts)
36. It's so much easier for non-thinkers to pull the same levers, time after time. Especially if hubby does so also.
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:48 PM
14 hrs ago

Midnight Writer

(25,661 posts)
4. Just wait for the gladiator fights at the WH on his birthday. That should turn things around for him.
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:46 PM
Monday

He has nothing to offer but reality-show dramatic stunts. He doesn't know how to do anything but stir shit.

He is a conman who people are losing confidence in.

BannonsLiver

(20,797 posts)
17. Yes he'll gain a bazillion new voters and win the mid terms and 14 future terms in the WH.
Tue May 5, 2026, 11:03 AM
17 hrs ago
🤦‍♂️

Keepthesoulalive

(2,372 posts)
40. Those gas prices and hunger
Tue May 5, 2026, 02:19 PM
14 hrs ago

Seems to be getting their attention, wait until the shortages hit. Maga who, what, I don’t know no maga. As they run inside to hide their maga merch.

AZ8theist

(7,563 posts)
9. Gee, if only someboday warned Americans what was going to happen.......
Mon May 4, 2026, 11:59 PM
Monday

But this analysis means shit unless it's a few days before the election.
I'm not convinced the Reich Wing doesn't have the fix in for the midterms.

usonian

(26,311 posts)
10. Boy who cries WOLF! WOLF! WOLF! endlessly.
Tue May 5, 2026, 09:50 AM
18 hrs ago

Is stealing their sheep.

And it took these people how many years to find out?

leftyladyfrommo

(20,024 posts)
16. Better late than never, I guess.
Tue May 5, 2026, 11:00 AM
17 hrs ago

He's getting just plain pathetic.

I saw a video of him giving a speech se
veral years ago and there isn't any comparison to him now. He had energy. Now he just wanders around abd his filter and judgement just aren't even there.

paleotn

(22,573 posts)
22. $5 dollar gas will kinda do that.
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:11 PM
16 hrs ago

Stomp all over people's civil rights, gut government agencies that protect and serve all of us, kill Americans on the street in cold blood, and pilfer tax payer funding for personal gain.....get's little in the way of traction. But jack up their gas prices, not to mention their groceries, and they're fucking up in arms!!! I don't know whether to be happy or sad.

Mysterian

(6,597 posts)
24. We will look back fondly on the days of 5$ gasoline
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:15 PM
16 hrs ago

if the republicans retain control much longer.

Mysterian

(6,597 posts)
23. It's mind-boggling that anyone can support a pure cretin to be their leader
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:14 PM
16 hrs ago

The power of the billionaire-owned mass media propaganda is stunning and frightening.

Baitball Blogger

(52,637 posts)
25. So, why then, are the Republicans in Congress voting in a one billion dollar proviso for his ballroom?
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:19 PM
16 hrs ago

Even if he gets the money, it won't slow him down.

relogic

(210 posts)
28. Spare me
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:48 PM
15 hrs ago

the proposed elation that maga/pukepubs support is in ‘Absolute Collapse'. If this is collapse, I direct you to the significant victory of this regime’s achievements the past year and a half.

As a symbol of what collapse means?

I present to you when he was allowed to put his name beside and on buildings, build ballrooms, construct towering arches to his name and destroy our gleaming Whitehouse I knew any talk of collapse is the lie out of hell literally.

Jirel

(2,381 posts)
29. No cheering until after the midterms.
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:07 PM
15 hrs ago

None of this matters unless we have (relatively) fair elections, and the numbers translate to removing sufficient fascists.

Torchlight

(7,003 posts)
39. If gas prices maintain its present direction going into Memorial Day
Tue May 5, 2026, 02:04 PM
14 hrs ago

I wouldn't be surprised to see even a few die-hard members of of fan club leadership in the legislatures begin to denounce him. Pump prices are not a theoretical concept nor a fictional anecdote to cover our narratives, but an occurrence we're forced to confront daily; and given the American proclivity to prioritize cash over conviction, I don't see this ending good for Mr. trump's base.

Kablooie

(19,118 posts)
41. That's not an absolute crash. That's just a slight dip.
Tue May 5, 2026, 02:37 PM
13 hrs ago

An absolute crash would require 90% the country to take their heads out of Trumps ass.
But they are all stuck in there so tight together that no one can pull out.

BannonsLiver

(20,797 posts)
43. Fuck I had no idea Trumps approval rating is up to 90 percent.
Tue May 5, 2026, 04:14 PM
12 hrs ago

We are screwn!1111111111111111111111111111111

BannonsLiver

(20,797 posts)
49. It's budged significantly from when it was over 90 a year ago.
Tue May 5, 2026, 06:21 PM
10 hrs ago

80 is a bad number for him. I know Trump has so thoroughly routed a lot of folks so it’s hard to grasp that there may be an actual end to this. There is and it’s coming.

cstanleytech

(28,569 posts)
42. Unfortunately I doubt many of those voters have really learned not to repeat themselves and make the same mistake.
Tue May 5, 2026, 04:07 PM
12 hrs ago

BannonsLiver

(20,797 posts)
44. So the GOP is in for a successful mid term in your view?
Tue May 5, 2026, 04:15 PM
12 hrs ago

Are we looking at a possible 3rd term for Donnie?

Kablooie

(19,118 posts)
48. Yep. They've learned from Trump.
Tue May 5, 2026, 06:17 PM
10 hrs ago

If something,goes wrong always blame someone else, not Trump.

BlueTsunami2018

(5,047 posts)
50. It's always about the economy.
Tue May 5, 2026, 06:53 PM
9 hrs ago

Well, 99% of the time anyway. Most people really don’t give a shit what you do as long they feel good about the economy. President Biden was hammered relentlessly about the economy from the moment he took office until the day he left both by Piss and the corporate media. It didn’t matter that we came out of Covid better than anyone, that inflation was under control, that significant investments were made in the country or that the stock market was doing well. People didn’t feel like the economy was doing well and so they let that imbecile back into power on his absurd promises. All the other stuff was peripheral.

Fast forward to now and the economy really does suck. Average Joe is really paying the price at the pump and at the grocery store and every other aspect of his life. People don’t care about this war except that it’s sending the price of gas through the roof. If it had worked like Piss said it would, people would be fine with it.

Most voters don’t get into the minutiae of politics, they care about what they can see and feel. And their wallets are taking a beating.

And that’s why the Republicans are going to get dog walked in November.


EnergizedLib

(3,113 posts)
51. Sadly, I don't think Indiana is getting the memo
Tue May 5, 2026, 07:25 PM
8 hrs ago

Almost every Republican who voted against gerrymandering is losing right now to a MAGAt challenger.

Red Mountain

(2,376 posts)
52. So in NC.......
Tue May 5, 2026, 09:41 PM
6 hrs ago

I can go to a state website, type in a name and see how that person is registered. It shows what elections and primaries they have voted in for the last 20+ years.

It seems to me few people are aware of this.

Independents that always vote in republican primaries......are registered as independents because they think they are flying under the radar. At some point they were unwilling to commit in person. First time registering, getting a drivers license, whatever. They didn't want to say a party name at the time......but are steady voters for republican candidates.

At this point anybody registered as an independent and willing to entertain the thought of voting for trump or his minions is anything but independent.

Don't get me started on registered Democrats who vote republican. They exist around here still.

Anyway.......was wondering......does your state have a voter lookup like this?

https://vt.ncsbe.gov/reglkup/

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