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(4,451 posts)
Wed May 6, 2026, 07:41 AM 12 hrs ago

ProPublica: Babies Are Bleeding to Death as Parents Reject a Vitamin Shot Given at Birth

Last edited Wed May 6, 2026, 09:53 AM - Edit history (2)

by Duaa Eldeib
May 6, 2026, 6:00 am

They entered the world the way babies should, with piercing cries announcing their arrival. They passed their newborn screening tests. Some made it to their 2-week wellness visits without concern.

Then, without warning, their systems began to shut down. A 7-week-old boy in Maryland developed sudden seizures. An 11-pound girl in Alabama stopped breathing for 20 seconds at a time. A baby boy in Kentucky vomited before becoming lethargic. A brown-haired girl in Texas, not yet 2 weeks old, bled around her belly button.

Desperate to save them, records show, doctors inserted tubes into their airways and hooked them up to IVs. They ordered blood transfusions. They spent half an hour trying to resuscitate one boy until his parents told them they could stop. They shaved another boy’s soft locks to embed a needle directly into his skull to reduce the pressure in his brain.

None of it was enough.

At the morgue, the babies were brought in with their diapers and blankets and with their hospital ID bracelets still wrapped around their tiny ankles. The pathologists’ findings were like those you would typically see in ailing adults, not newborns — the kind of bleeding seen during strokes or brain tissue loss similar to what happens when radiation is administered to treat cancer.
https://www.propublica.org/article/more-parents-decline-vitamin-k-shot-newborns

Edited to add info re: legality of parent neglect:

The Legality of Vitamin K Refusal in the United States

Avrohom Levy 1,✉, Shira Nabatian 2
Editors: Alexander Muacevic, John R Adler

Conclusions
Vitamin K prophylaxis is a simple, safe, and life-saving intervention that has significantly reduced the incidence of VKDB in newborns. However, parental refusal, often influenced by misinformation and distrust in the medical system, creates a public health concern. Ironically, the very success of Vitamin K supplementation in preventing VKDB may contribute to the problem, as many parents remain unaware of its critical role. A concerted governmental effort is needed to track Vitamin K refusal and VKDB cases, whether at the state or national levels. Improved data collection would help quantify the extent of the issue, providing the necessary foundation for legislation aimed at preventing VKDB.

The reluctance to intervene in Vitamin K refusal raises an important ethical question: How much avoidable risk to a child is too much to ignore? In cases like untreated leukemia, the certainty of death without treatment compels authorities to intervene. Yet, when it comes to preventive measures like Vitamin K, the absence of immediate danger should not diminish the obligation to protect vulnerable children. Consider car seat laws - while most car trips do not end in accidents, the potential for harm is significant enough to justify mandatory restraints. If society accepts car seat regulations as a means to safeguard children from preventable harm, why isn't Vitamin K supplementation viewed in a similar way? Addressing these issues requires a multifaceted approach, including provider education, public health initiatives, and potential legal frameworks to ensure newborns receive this essential preventive measure. Moving forward, healthcare professionals, policymakers, and public health organizations must work together to combat misinformation, strengthen advocacy, and reinforce the necessity of Vitamin K administration to safeguard infant health.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11929546/#abstract1





How long is the list of issues we must fix for our country?

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ProPublica: Babies Are Bleeding to Death as Parents Reject a Vitamin Shot Given at Birth (Original Post) Passages 12 hrs ago OP
The stupid really will kill you. Or your babies. ms liberty 12 hrs ago #1
Incredible to me how this can be a real issue when in fact, there is no good reason for it. Passages 12 hrs ago #2
More from your link UpInArms 11 hrs ago #3
There is a way this "dad" can speed up his visit with God, don't ya' know? maxrandb 11 hrs ago #4
The baby might have had a chance UpInArms 11 hrs ago #6
Would the child have really had a good chance? IbogaProject 10 hrs ago #34
They're so lost, when I first read it one would think you're reading an article from a 100 years ago. Passages 11 hrs ago #5
I see it around me UpInArms 11 hrs ago #7
Criminal imo. Passages 11 hrs ago #8
Why aren't the parents prosecuted for child endangerment, cruelty and neglect? n/t kiranon 39 min ago #60
I think 100 years ago childhood death was so common Johonny 10 hrs ago #27
I think you're correct..it is worse now due to the lack of trust. Passages 10 hrs ago #28
It's not the will of Gaw-duh, you murdering fucks . . . hatrack 11 hrs ago #10
He thinks hospitals make money from vaccines? yardwork 11 hrs ago #12
Exactly. Passages 11 hrs ago #17
I'm confused by the stances these idiots take and why. llmart 10 hrs ago #41
The cost of a vaccine vs. the (economic) cost of what they caused. Abolishinist 8 min ago #62
I figured some of the parents would just blame the doctors or hospital. tanyev 11 hrs ago #14
They do. They go into hospitals and clinics and start physically attacking people. yardwork 11 hrs ago #18
Jeezus! Delphinus 9 hrs ago #51
Don't think that's who you're gonna be meeting, bud. Joinfortmill 53 min ago #59
What is the reason driving the parents to allow this to happen ? magicarpet 11 hrs ago #9
A composite? I imagine many issues that culminate with deep doubts that lead to tragedy. Passages 11 hrs ago #11
If they don't believe in science UpInArms 11 hrs ago #16
It's part of the anti-vax disinformation Alice Kramden 11 hrs ago #20
Oops,... "Inoculations" - to increase the health and well being of children. magicarpet 10 hrs ago #24
Their preachers... mountain grammy 10 hrs ago #43
.... so right,... magicarpet 9 hrs ago #45
Many of these people are controlled by an Hey Joe 9 hrs ago #46
The fact these people walk among us and have children makes me sad. NoMoreRepugs 11 hrs ago #13
Unimaginable that this occurs. Never had to happen. Passages 11 hrs ago #15
I had someone tell me once that these vitamins aren't extracted from plants and are instead made in labs... biocube 11 hrs ago #19
Has any one pointed out to these morons, many of whom seem to belong to those evangelical type churches, mwmisses4289 11 hrs ago #21
... maybe it is indeed G-d's Plan that they not be allowed or encouraged to contaminate magicarpet 9 hrs ago #47
Here's the point of the essay (from the OP link) FakeNoose 11 hrs ago #22
Ignorant anti-vax parents causing their own babies' deaths Alice Kramden 10 hrs ago #23
When doctors, scientists, and teachers are seen as the bad guys..... 70sEraVet 10 hrs ago #25
As a parent, I cannot in any way, shape, or form, understand why these idiots risk their own Diamond_Dog 10 hrs ago #26
Dr. Facebook OB/GYN has caused a lot of problems Sympthsical 10 hrs ago #29
Well now you can show them this article. LisaL 10 hrs ago #32
Right? Sympthsical 10 hrs ago #40
Great points, thank you. Passages 10 hrs ago #33
I wonder how many of these parents who decline the Vitamin K shot ... VMA131Marine 10 hrs ago #30
Very good question, how is their health and by what means do they care for themselves. Passages 10 hrs ago #31
These people are insane! Johnny2X2X 10 hrs ago #35
YO! Moron parents who doom their infants by their stupidity... GiqueCee 10 hrs ago #36
Great question Possibly, and why I stated we have a long list of issues to fix. I should probably add this to the OP. Passages 10 hrs ago #37
Nailed it... GiqueCee 8 hrs ago #54
It is possible, to what degree who knows, but a valid consideration re: human behavior in the US. Passages 8 hrs ago #56
Absolutely insane angrychair 10 hrs ago #38
Social media Sympthsical 10 hrs ago #42
I found this report depressing. The ignorance behind it shocked me. Passages 9 hrs ago #48
trump and his merry men. Turbineguy 10 hrs ago #39
Yes. Their own special type of pestilence. Passages 9 hrs ago #49
My friend's newborn bled in the UK mainer 10 hrs ago #44
What a horrendous price to pay, poor thing. Passages 9 hrs ago #50
This is so f&cking stupid I can't even find words for it. 3catwoman3 9 hrs ago #52
It is near impossible to comprehend. To prevent harm, how did that become a threat?? Passages 9 hrs ago #53
"...doctors inserted tubes into their airways and hooked them up to IVs...blood transfusions...resuscitation..." Wednesdays 8 hrs ago #55
Surreal, I know. Passages 8 hrs ago #57
Killing their own children. Depraved Joinfortmill 56 min ago #58
ere's a huge epidemic of stupid going on in this country right, and little children are suffering because of it. ShazzieB 15 min ago #61

Passages

(4,451 posts)
2. Incredible to me how this can be a real issue when in fact, there is no good reason for it.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:01 AM
12 hrs ago

UpInArms

(55,249 posts)
3. More from your link
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:07 AM
11 hrs ago
A third family, who made their decision after reading about vitamin K on social media and talking with their midwife, dismissed the vitamin K shot altogether. Instead, the father expressed outrage at the hospital for not delaying the clamping of the umbilical cord. He said he believed doing so would have allowed his son to be infused with vitamin K from the cord blood, a popular theory on social media.

Research, however, shows that while delayed cord clamping can raise the baby’s hemoglobin levels, it does not have the same effect on vitamin K.

“I figured the hospital was already pissy with me because we didn’t vaccinate at all,” he told ProPublica. “They lost out on all the money from that.”

The family’s anger has subsided some since the baby’s death, in part because of their trust in God’s plan.
“I can sit here and be upset and sad, but this brought me closer to God,” the father said. “I just can’t wait to be with him.”

IbogaProject

(6,041 posts)
34. Would the child have really had a good chance?
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:33 AM
10 hrs ago

Stupidity is inherited, directly by genetics and by lack of education. I love how the let's make a twelve year old carry a risky rape pregnancy to term want freedom to reject medical procedures and kill and/or harm their child.

Passages

(4,451 posts)
5. They're so lost, when I first read it one would think you're reading an article from a 100 years ago.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:11 AM
11 hrs ago

UpInArms

(55,249 posts)
7. I see it around me
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:15 AM
11 hrs ago

here in rural Missouri …

These snake charmer churches are literally poisoning these people’s minds.

Johonny

(26,494 posts)
27. I think 100 years ago childhood death was so common
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:27 AM
10 hrs ago

That they'd listen to any doctor that offered vaccines, vitamin K etc...

The modern world has created an arrogance of ignorance.

hatrack

(65,061 posts)
10. It's not the will of Gaw-duh, you murdering fucks . . .
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:25 AM
11 hrs ago

It's you, in your role as "parents".

Jesus wept . . .

yardwork

(69,535 posts)
12. He thinks hospitals make money from vaccines?
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:41 AM
11 hrs ago

That's so sad. Nobody makes money from vaccines. Without government subsidies the pharmaceutical companies will stop making vaccines. Millions will die.

This is the biggest self-own in human history.

llmart

(17,711 posts)
41. I'm confused by the stances these idiots take and why.
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:52 AM
10 hrs ago

Which is it you stupid fucks? God's will or the money you think hospitals are getting rich off of? Which do you worship more? God or your money?

I just can't even deal with the level of stupidity some people have.

Abolishinist

(3,031 posts)
62. The cost of a vaccine vs. the (economic) cost of what they caused.
Wed May 6, 2026, 07:54 PM
8 min ago

"Desperate to save them, records show, doctors inserted tubes into their airways and hooked them up to IVs. They ordered blood transfusions. They spent half an hour trying to resuscitate one boy until his parents told them they could stop. They shaved another boy’s soft locks to embed a needle directly into his skull to reduce the pressure in his brain.

Gee, I wonder how much the hospital made off of their ignorance?

yardwork

(69,535 posts)
18. They do. They go into hospitals and clinics and start physically attacking people.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:49 AM
11 hrs ago

The disinformation is so extreme, people think doctors and nurses are killing their loved ones.

This started under Trump term one, with COVID disinformation and it has accelerated since.

Delphinus

(12,541 posts)
51. Jeezus!
Wed May 6, 2026, 10:33 AM
9 hrs ago

"They lost out on all the money from that" - what? WHAT?

What do they think their god will do when they see him? Say, good job?!

I can't even find the words right now to express my sadness, rage, horror ... that Dad could go and be with the baby right now.

magicarpet

(19,237 posts)
9. What is the reason driving the parents to allow this to happen ?
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:24 AM
11 hrs ago

Is it a desire to leave things be, letting G-d's Devine Plan run his intended course of action, devoid of any human interventions or interruptions what so ever ? Thinking man has no right to second guess our Sky Daddy up in the heavens ?

Or did RFKJr. scare the shit out of these parents with his gobbledygook and jibber-jabber that all children's vaccines are laced with mercury as a preservative and this is the cause for the current alarming increase and rise of childhood Autism ?

Not all science is bad,... Not all science is our enemy. Hucksters of crazy ideas and know nothings should not be running our government. Where does the Dotard - who shits his pants - find them all ?

Passages

(4,451 posts)
11. A composite? I imagine many issues that culminate with deep doubts that lead to tragedy.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:27 AM
11 hrs ago

I don't know, but I will say this article scared me for America.

UpInArms

(55,249 posts)
16. If they don't believe in science
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:47 AM
11 hrs ago

They should give up the computers and cellphones, because without science, they would not exist.

Then, they would, at least, lose access to the evil fakebook

Hey Joe

(756 posts)
46. Many of these people are controlled by an
Wed May 6, 2026, 10:10 AM
9 hrs ago

algorithm consisting of disinformation and rage bait aimed towards things they are too intellectually incapable or incurious to understand.
Social media is turning out to be one of the most damaging aspects of our daily lives and too many people fall victim to the hate and lies that,
one way or another, destroy them.

biocube

(250 posts)
19. I had someone tell me once that these vitamins aren't extracted from plants and are instead made in labs...
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:51 AM
11 hrs ago

...and are somehow different. Chemophobia is the real poison.

mwmisses4289

(4,588 posts)
21. Has any one pointed out to these morons, many of whom seem to belong to those evangelical type churches,
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:54 AM
11 hrs ago

that maybe their "god" allowed the development of these various life saving vaccines and medicines so they and their children would be around to annoy us "evil, dam libruls" with their version of god's word? When they refuse, they are falling into satan's hands.
Or maybe when they refuse this, it's their deities way of showing they are unfit for the blessing of a child.

magicarpet

(19,237 posts)
47. ... maybe it is indeed G-d's Plan that they not be allowed or encouraged to contaminate
Wed May 6, 2026, 10:18 AM
9 hrs ago

... the human gene pool with their quiverfull and proliferous ways of pro creations ?

FakeNoose

(42,163 posts)
22. Here's the point of the essay (from the OP link)
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:01 AM
11 hrs ago
Their autopsies, which took place over the last several years, all came to the same conclusion: The deaths were caused, in whole or in part, by a rare but potentially fatal condition known as vitamin K deficiency bleeding.

In almost every case, the babies’ deaths could have been prevented with a long-standard vitamin K shot. But across the country, families — first in smatterings, now in droves — are declining the single, inexpensive injection given at birth to newborns to help their blood clot.

Many of them are doing so out of a well-meaning but ill-informed abundance of caution. In the hopes of safeguarding their newborns from what they see as unnecessary medical intervention, they have shunned fundamental and scientifically sound pharmaceutical intervention. The trend is also fueled by a contradictory pairing: families’ fierce desire to protect their babies and a cascade of false information infused into their social media algorithms.

Although it is not a vaccine, the vitamin K shot has been swept up in the same post-pandemic tide that has led to a drop in key childhood vaccines, including for measles and whooping cough.
- more at link -

I believe expectant parents should be prevented from accessing social media of any kind. It's just too dangerous.

Alice Kramden

(2,960 posts)
23. Ignorant anti-vax parents causing their own babies' deaths
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:04 AM
10 hrs ago

Refusing the standard medical protocols for newborns - a terrible and deadly stance.

From the article:

The vitamin K shot is one of the three main interventions, along with the hepatitis B vaccine and an antibiotic ointment in the eyes, that newborns typically receive before leaving the hospital. Leading American institutions and the World Health Organization recommend that newborns get the shot.

In December, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stopped recommending that all newborns get the hepatitis B vaccine, which has been highly effective at fighting a virus that can lead to lifelong infections and liver cancer ... Some families are also rejecting the eye ointment.

70sEraVet

(5,589 posts)
25. When doctors, scientists, and teachers are seen as the bad guys.....
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:09 AM
10 hrs ago

there's nobody to complain when the government starts rounding them up.
Fascism is dependent on an ignorant working class.

Diamond_Dog

(40,920 posts)
26. As a parent, I cannot in any way, shape, or form, understand why these idiots risk their own
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:16 AM
10 hrs ago

flesh and blood to die when there is proven science to support their babies’ lives and well being.

Sympthsical

(11,075 posts)
29. Dr. Facebook OB/GYN has caused a lot of problems
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:28 AM
10 hrs ago

I know people are focusing on the religious yokels and RFK Jr. - and well they should, particularly when it comes to vaccines - but L&D doctors and nurses are combating a whole slew of "natural health" gobbeldy gook particularly surrounding pregnancy and birth. The shit they have to deal with, because expectant parents "read something online".

Go look up what free birth is and enjoy that one.

Just finished my OB rotation here in the Bay Area a few weeks back, and oh yeah, many new parents had opinions sourced to this or that social media platform or tiktok/youtube/twitter influencers.

The Vitamin K thing is an interesting one, because it feels like there's the least education around it. At least with vaccines you can chalk it up to disinformation. But parents are at least familiar with vaccines and antibiotics. You start explaining that Vitamin K shot, and sometimes there's this idea it's some kind of toxic chemical we just want to pump into a baby willy nilly.

I had a moment with a new mom where were discussing it and made a joke about how you can't even get me to eat kale, so it's not something I'd want to inflict on a newborn. No one's introduction to this world should involve kale. She was fine with the shot generally, but she did have misgivings/questions. Which is fine. But man, I really hate Dr. Facebook.

Passages

(4,451 posts)
33. Great points, thank you.
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:32 AM
10 hrs ago

Dr Facebook is right, and all the other pseudoscience researchers.

VMA131Marine

(5,330 posts)
30. I wonder how many of these parents who decline the Vitamin K shot ...
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:28 AM
10 hrs ago

… are stuffing themselves with “health” supplements of dubious value made by an industry that rivals “Big Pharma” in size and is almost totally unregulated.

GiqueCee

(4,597 posts)
36. YO! Moron parents who doom their infants by their stupidity...
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:40 AM
10 hrs ago

... can you say, "NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE"?

Passages

(4,451 posts)
37. Great question Possibly, and why I stated we have a long list of issues to fix. I should probably add this to the OP.
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:48 AM
10 hrs ago

Last edited Wed May 6, 2026, 11:08 AM - Edit history (1)

2025 Feb 20;17(2):e79368. doi: 10.7759/cureus.79368

The Legality of Vitamin K Refusal in the United States

Avrohom Levy 1,✉, Shira Nabatian 2
Editors: Alexander Muacevic, John R Adler

Conclusions
Vitamin K prophylaxis is a simple, safe, and life-saving intervention that has significantly reduced the incidence of VKDB in newborns. However, parental refusal, often influenced by misinformation and distrust in the medical system, creates a public health concern. Ironically, the very success of Vitamin K supplementation in preventing VKDB may contribute to the problem, as many parents remain unaware of its critical role. A concerted governmental effort is needed to track Vitamin K refusal and VKDB cases, whether at the state or national levels. Improved data collection would help quantify the extent of the issue, providing the necessary foundation for legislation aimed at preventing VKDB.

The reluctance to intervene in Vitamin K refusal raises an important ethical question: How much avoidable risk to a child is too much to ignore? In cases like untreated leukemia, the certainty of death without treatment compels authorities to intervene. Yet, when it comes to preventive measures like Vitamin K, the absence of immediate danger should not diminish the obligation to protect vulnerable children. Consider car seat laws - while most car trips do not end in accidents, the potential for harm is significant enough to justify mandatory restraints. If society accepts car seat regulations as a means to safeguard children from preventable harm, why isn't Vitamin K supplementation viewed in a similar way? Addressing these issues requires a multifaceted approach, including provider education, public health initiatives, and potential legal frameworks to ensure newborns receive this essential preventive measure. Moving forward, healthcare professionals, policymakers, and public health organizations must work together to combat misinformation, strengthen advocacy, and reinforce the necessity of Vitamin K administration to safeguard infant health.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11929546/#abstract1


GiqueCee

(4,597 posts)
54. Nailed it...
Wed May 6, 2026, 11:28 AM
8 hrs ago

... I wonder if undiagnosed Oppositional Defiant Disorder could account for some of the bad decisions made by some parents. I've had some experience with ODD in my own family, where a demonstrably bad, and potentially dangerous, decision has been stubbornly defended even in the face of irrefutable proof of its assured negative outcome.
We're certainly seeing it on a daily, nay, HOURLY, basis with the increasingly warped behavior of our mentally unsound president, and a terrifyingly large percentage – one could justifiably say – ALL of his cabinet members.

Passages

(4,451 posts)
56. It is possible, to what degree who knows, but a valid consideration re: human behavior in the US.
Wed May 6, 2026, 11:34 AM
8 hrs ago

It's as if, for some, they fell off a cliff!

angrychair

(12,447 posts)
38. Absolutely insane
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:49 AM
10 hrs ago

Everything just feels off. I honestly am confused. When did humanity collectively become this ignorant and submissive?

It's truly shocking. You watch a movie like Idiocracy and Star Trek and think "gee, I want that Star Trek life, that sounds like that better way to go", and it seems we are headed that way.
But we suddenly, inexplicably, go the other way and embrace Idiocracy.

Sympthsical

(11,075 posts)
42. Social media
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:57 AM
10 hrs ago

It's social media. Used to be the idiot population was diluted, so the kind of damage they could cause was mitigated to some extent.

Now they can find each other, coalesce, and advocate for stupid in ways never previously imagined.

Dumb Ass Phil at the coffee shop was at least known as Dumb Ass Phil locally and generally able to be ignored. Now DAP has 10,000 friends just like him online that he talks to daily.

And sometimes they go on campaigns.

mainer

(12,571 posts)
44. My friend's newborn bled in the UK
Wed May 6, 2026, 10:00 AM
10 hrs ago

He survived but with brain damage, and spent the rest of his life in an institution.
This was over 50 years ago, before Vit K was routinely given to newborns. Her tragedy was one of the reasons the UK started routinely giving Vit K to all newborns.

3catwoman3

(29,715 posts)
52. This is so f&cking stupid I can't even find words for it.
Wed May 6, 2026, 10:40 AM
9 hrs ago

It's most unfortunate that the only "skill" required to become a parent is the ability to juxtapose genitalia.

Wednesdays

(23,016 posts)
55. "...doctors inserted tubes into their airways and hooked them up to IVs...blood transfusions...resuscitation..."
Wed May 6, 2026, 11:31 AM
8 hrs ago

But a vitamin shot is a no-go?

ShazzieB

(22,812 posts)
61. ere's a huge epidemic of stupid going on in this country right, and little children are suffering because of it.
Wed May 6, 2026, 07:48 PM
15 min ago

"The trend is also fueled by a contradictory pairing: families’ fierce desire to protect their babies and a cascade of false information infused into their social media algorithms."

You know these same people are also refusing vaccines, and some of those diseases are going to come roaring back and kill even more kids. Some of these nuts have stopped vaccinating their pets, too. Distrust of all forms of science is causing people to lose their damned minds.

I reminded of the words to a song:

Bless the beasts and the children,
For in this world they have no voice,
They have no choice.



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