Here's a ticket for 2028. Whaddya think?

[CTyankee]

Newsom - CA
Whitmer - MI

Too early, of course, but Newsom seems a frontrunner now and Whitmer is popular in MI

We can dream, can't we?

[The Blue Flower]

1. I want a ticket that includes (former governor) Jay Inslee

He was a great public servant for Washington State.

[CTyankee]

4. Nothing against Inslee but Newsom has some appeal right now (who knows by 2028, tho?)

I do envision Trump not lasting (health or impeachment) out his term and Vance will be hated by 2028.

[MurrayDelph]

24. Inslee would be better

as Secretary of the Interior.

[Ziggy Beans]

2. Please, no

The Democrats can do so much better

[CTyankee]

6. OK. I'm open to suggestions!

[ananda]

3. Like

!!!

[leftstreet]

5. Transitional, but not Transformational

The Democrats have been doing "transitional" since Reagan. Dialing back a bad policy here, doing a Cash For Clunkers there. It's no longer sustainable with the current economic realities.

We need FDR level policies and programs at this point

[CTyankee]

8. Got suggestions or do you think we have some candidates waiting "In the wings" so to speak?

[leftstreet]

11. No

No idea. Given history, it's just easier to see what won't work at this point

[JustAnotherGen]

9. This -

And we'd end up (some of us) stuck back in 1877.

No - this time-

We bring the Confederates to heel. We humiliate them. We do that by denigrating their culture and and limiting their access to American resources.

No more 'transition'. I want an LBJ. He had guts.

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. I've got a better idea

Instead of copying Trump’s revenge politics, why not kill the filibuster, expand the court, and Ram through progressive bill after bill (like Whitmer did in MI in one year with a single seat majority in the legislature), bills that improve the lives of all Americans, even those in the Confederate states.

If Democrats can find the courage to govern fearlessly, unhesitatingly and progressively, the could keep the trifecta for a generation or more.

But none of that can happen until the current MAGA majority on the court is neutralized.

[JustAnotherGen]

16. What's your idea

Sit around and hug it out with White Supremacists?

You know - we did that before . . . Those poor widdle racists I'm being a big MEANIE to them!

[Fiendish Thingy]

19. I explained my position

If Dems govern fearlessly, unhesitatingly, and progressively in a manner that benefits all Americans (well, except billionaires) rather than punishes an excluded group, then voters will reward them with majorities for decades to come.

No need to hold hands and sing Kumbaya with people who don’t share a sense of basic human decency, just plow ahead and wield their power without reservation or compromise. Sure, the right will raise holy hell, and scream and tantrum and run social media campaigns trying to continue to divide the country, but none of that will matter if Dems govern effectively, and people experience the benefits in their daily lives, rather than the go-slow pragmatic incrementalism of the valueless centrists.

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Does not happen

Without Black Voters as the firewall. Nice ideas though.

While the Leftists were screaming about Establishment Dems, Evil Centrists and Vile Moderates -

The Magapubs engaged in a Cultural War.

They won. The Left lost.

No more Harm Reduction voting by Black Americans.

We did that for 60 years and got thrown under the bus for Palestine.

I suspect - you don't understand the culture. My grandfather named me as his successor when I was 7. I'm cut from the same cloth. He saw it 46 years ago. I love my family and friends with all my heart. But if I define something as an *enemy* I'm heartless, cold, and cruel. Mine before Thine. Its how we became millionaires in Talladega Alabama in the Firts Jim Crow Era.

The best revenge against America is going behind their backs. Use it against them. We just *reside* here. So by all means - enjoy your fight. It's YOUR country now. Me? I'm going behind your back.

It's a family tradition.

[Fiendish Thingy]

30. Quite the rant, but I guess I missed your point

You started out saying revenge and punishment for the Confederate states was your priority.

I disagreed, and explained why.

Then you made it about me.

I’m going behind your back

I have no idea what that means.

BTW, if he had been faced with an extremist court that would have overturned the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, LBJ would have expanded the court and packed it with liberals who would uphold the law. He would have twisted, if not broken, the arms of any Dem legislator who hesitated to support him (but also would’ve used Pork funding to entice overly cautious ones).

He would have done it, sure as the sun rises in the morning.

It’s that kind of courage I’m seeking in our next nominee.

I’d much prefer that over another culture war or hatred based administration.

[FascismIsDeath]

35. LBJ has a legislative body to back him up, "guts" didn't have shit to do with it.

As I said to the poster you are responding to, they even had Republicans backing some of their bolder policies. The legislative branch is what gets it done, not the President. Thats the real world.

[FascismIsDeath]

34. Where is that FDR level Senate going to come from?

Thats the inconvenient truth that gets ignored every time someone brings up FDR and LBJ. They had something no Democratic president has had since. They even had Republicans on board with a lot of those big policies. Until that can happen again, reality only allows for incrementalism. You don't have to be happy about it, I'm not. But you can't deny it either.

[JustAnotherGen]

7. No

I don't think that's where the party Base in the Blue Trifecta States will be in 2028.

We look at 'those people' as demonic evil things. Case in point? The TN Legislature today. They need to be punished. They are truly evil and devoid of humanity.

[Fiendish Thingy]

13. So, public beatings?

Mass executions?

Or, like Trump, just denying those states FEMA funds and other federal benefits?

Revenge politics might make you feel good, but won’t accomplish anything, and would guarantee a reversal of power in the next election.

[JustAnotherGen]

15. Where did I say that?

How about fair taxation? How about MAKING them desegregate the Christian Schools by pulling all education funding from those states until they do that?

How about going really big - one person one vote?

How about putting every single member of the Regime in Gitmo to await trial?

That's me being generous. Every single member of the CSA Gov and Military leaders should have been hung.

I mean - we even gave the Nazis trials.

So - wait -it's violent to want them tried for treason and overthrowing America?

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. I'd prefer Whitmer/Pete

But the DNC didn’t spend millions to learn “how to listen to men” to nominate another women.

Newsom is a hard NO for me.

Chris Murphy is also interesting to me.

[CTyankee]

17. Murphy is my senator and I like him a lot! Why doncha like Newsom?

[haele]

20. Newsom is a Man for all Seasons.

And he was good for California 30% of the time, Okay for California 20% of the time, "Meh" for California 30% of the time, and, well, outright bad for California 20% of the time.
He's not exactly a Progressive and certainly not a Keynesian. He's more a populist, sort of like Kennedy was as President. Lots of buddies with money and creature comforts. And his agenda has always suited him.
Don't get me wrong. He's not - bad.

But he's not the type to walk in front of the cameras and say "They call me a traitor to my class and hate me. I welcome their hatred. I was elected by the people of the United States to help them, to fix the country to give them opportunities and the security to strive for them, and that's what I'm going to try to do. The Rich don't need my help. The rest of the Country does..."
And then roll up his sleeves and get to work.

[CTyankee]

21. Do you like Murphy (my senator)?

I think he might be transformative. It's time those of us in New England states can feel good about our country again.

[haele]

22. Need to look more into his record...

If he sticks to his ethics when he has to compromise or negotiate a politically charged position, that's a plus on my list.

[MurrayDelph]

25. No current Senators

for any presidential or cabinet positions.

[CTyankee]

26. Why not?

[MurrayDelph]

28. We need to win the Senate

AND hold it.

[rampartd]

27. kelly.

[Intractable]

14. I look forward to robust primary debates. Then, I'll decide.

[CTyankee]

18. Yes. I think you are right.

The debates will be very revealing!

[usonian]

23. Senator Rev. Rafael Warnock and one of the following.

Have to exclude Jon Ossoff on this ticket for being the other senator from Georgia. (I'll work on an alternate )
• Jamie Raskin
• Gavin Newsom
• Andy Beshear
• Senator Elizabeth Warren

The Presidential choice (and next president) will unite people and separately inject some fire and brimstone of someone who "walks the walk" into profoundly CINO's. (Christians in name only) WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE!!

The VP choices will all both forcefully kick ass, deliver the good message, and skillfully carry out the work that needs to be done and to drive legislation.

Alternate: Mark Kelley

Separate category: Millionaires. They didn't get rich by giving money away.
- J.B. Pritzker
- Mark Cuban




A typical shopping list at this date:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/12-democrats-early-top-contenders-060002831.html

[CTyankee]

31. Need another woman, a little younger than Warren.

I decided not to give up on having a woman for POTUS or VP.

[usonian]

32. Here's my theory.

Two outstanding candidates for president lost partly or mostly to reprehensible misogyny on the part of voters.

Change is slow. "Hearts and Mnds" change over decades, mostly not at all.
https://democraticunderground.com/100216524810
JUST WIN, AND THEN KICK ASS.

I do propose that women make up major cabinet posts, for which they are not only qualified, but which they will carry out with great distinction and power.

Think of what these women could do in cabinet positions with real power.

• Elizabeth Warren
• Kamala Harris
• Hillary Clinton
• Tammy Duckworth
• Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
• Gretchen Whitmer
• Abigail Spanberger
And in a position to give holy f***ing hell to any and all morans and creeps,
• Jasmine Crockett
more, I am sure

What about their current important tasks?
They just prove the point.
And the decision is way above my pay grade.

Liberal Supreme Court Justices unfortunately excluded. We just need 6 more of them. (or more)w

Give them real power.

[CTyankee]

33. Gretchen has the most experience IMO, by being governor.

She successfully ran a state, she can run the Presidency. I think it's a natural fit for her!

The country will be so sick of Trump, so tired of economic and foreign policy disasters (and his disgusting manners), they will happily vote for a sensible, experienced chief executive!

[usonian]

36. I like your alternate theory.

I hope it is realized.

[mvd]

37. Sounds like a possibility

Honestly I’m waiting to see who I most support. But your ticket sounds like it could win.

[WarGamer]

38. Why not Mayor Pete?

0% snake oil salesman... the anti-trump... probably the most honorable potential candidate

[CTyankee]

39. Love him! I'd take him in a heartbeat.

But I think it is time for a woman president.