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no_hypocrisy

(55,756 posts) Thu Jun 18, 2026, 08:16 PM Jun 18

IMO, that surrender document signed in Versailles yesterday isn't worth the

price of the paper it's printed on.

Trump is impulsive. He pulled out of the Iran Agreement that John Kerry and Barak Obama brokered and signed.

What makes anyone think he won't do it again?

Exhibit Two: Trump pulled out of NAFTA, a trade agreement between the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. Made his "adjustments" to a new agreement, The USMCA. Now he wants to pull out of that.

All in all, who's going to make Trump agree to anything he signs?

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IMO, that surrender document signed in Versailles yesterday isn't worth the (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Jun 18 OP

Treaties signed at Versailles are historically problematic. mr715 Jun 18 #1

If he can pull out of the JCPOA then any other POTUS can shitcan this one too. RockRaven Jun 18 #2

We (the USA) need to get rid of Trump and those that benefit from Trump and his enablers. PufPuf23 Jun 18 #3

Not only get rid of them but to punish them to the fullest of the law. Claustrum Jun 18 #5

Nothing Trump has ever signed quaker bill Jun 18 #4

mr715

(4,883 posts)

1. Treaties signed at Versailles are historically problematic.

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2026, 08:19 PM

Jun 18

I agree there is no reason to believe this is legitimate. Perhaps an effective barometer is judge based on how apoplectic Bibi becomes.

Trump impulsively got us into a war. We are run by idiots and so we lost, and now Trump makes press with his tail between his legs.

RockRaven

(20,080 posts)

2. If he can pull out of the JCPOA then any other POTUS can shitcan this one too.

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2026, 08:21 PM

Jun 18

Goose, gander.

PufPuf23

(10,039 posts)

3. We (the USA) need to get rid of Trump and those that benefit from Trump and his enablers.

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2026, 08:24 PM

Jun 18

Otherwise, Trump will burn of nation and maybe leave much of the World to ashes.

There is no path to recovery for what the people of the USA have already lost in credibility, allies, wealth and power.

Claustrum

(5,064 posts)

5. Not only get rid of them but to punish them to the fullest of the law.

Reply to PufPuf23 (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 18, 2026, 10:05 PM

Jun 18

They need to make an example or someone else will do worse than what he does.

quaker bill

(8,268 posts)

4. Nothing Trump has ever signed

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2026, 08:40 PM

Jun 18

was worth the paper. Long before he was POTUS he was signing worthless contracts. Thus the over 6000 lawsuits and repeated bankruptcies.

Regardless, I think he is out of there anyway. This was supposed to be cheap glory, it has been everything but that. Iran reads him well nu making his exit pricey, he is paying because he wants to go and is spending other people's money anyway.

He is over Bibi and will hang him out to dry. Bibi promised cheap victory and instead delivered Trump as a hostage. You do not come back from that with Trump. Israel would be best off dumping Bibi in the next election and finding what peace they can.

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