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senseandsensibility

(25,943 posts)
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:55 AM 4 hrs ago

At the risk of appearing even more ignorant than usual

I have a question. So here goes....during Michelle Obama's speech at the opening of the Obama Center, I was in tears. I started an OP about how great the speech was. But there was one incident she described that totally threw me for a loop.

She was listing things that President Obama was attacked for and one of them was saying (paraphrased) that if he had a son he would be black too. Everyone in the crowd and all the commentators afterword seemed to understand and/or remember this.

I don't. I was an adult during both of Obama's terms and I don't remember any such "controversy", nor do I understand why that statement is controversial in any way. Help me out here.

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At the risk of appearing even more ignorant than usual (Original Post) senseandsensibility 4 hrs ago OP
I think it was a reference to the shooting of Trayvon Martin - Ocelot II 4 hrs ago #1
I remember this well godsentme 4 hrs ago #3
Thanks senseandsensibility 4 hrs ago #5
And it shows how long republicans have been 100% in control of media messaging BComplex 4 hrs ago #8
I remember that also LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago #7
Correct malaise 39 min ago #14
Yes, I recall that. Xavier Breath 4 hrs ago #2
After Treyvon Martin was murdered, Obama remarked that Treyvon could have been his son, or his younger self. jls4561 4 hrs ago #4
It was part of his speech regarding "walking while black" - the talk black parents must have with their kids biophile 4 hrs ago #6
From the Internet: wyn borkins 4 hrs ago #9
I finally got to watch her entire speech. hamsterjill 2 hrs ago #10
Yes, it was wonderful on so many levels. senseandsensibility 2 hrs ago #11
Who could forget the copy cat? hamsterjill 1 hr ago #12
About Trayvon Martin, many white people said: "I guess we'll never really know what happened." betsuni 45 min ago #13

senseandsensibility

(25,943 posts)
5. Thanks
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:03 PM
4 hrs ago

That did jog my memory. I get the context now. But I still don't understand why it was a controversial statement. Just goes to show how long Rs have been practicing fake outrage and how little they need to spur it. In this case, I will say they had nothing because I honestly still don't get what was objectionable about what he said.

BComplex

(10,010 posts)
8. And it shows how long republicans have been 100% in control of media messaging
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:07 PM
4 hrs ago

This is why we're in the mess we're in.

Xavier Breath

(6,708 posts)
2. Yes, I recall that.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:01 PM
4 hrs ago

I believe it was right after (yet another) unarmed, Black, male teen was shot by the police. The topic of how to talk to your Black teen son about interacting with the police was in the national conversation, so he made an innocuous comment pointing out that, and you better sit down for this, that he could have been the father of a Black son. Gasp!

RWNJ heads everywhere exploded, as you would expect them to.

jls4561

(3,312 posts)
4. After Treyvon Martin was murdered, Obama remarked that Treyvon could have been his son, or his younger self.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:03 PM
4 hrs ago
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/07/19/203660128/obama-trayvon-martin-could-have-been-me-35-years-ago

As to why people were outraged, I have not idea. Maybe because they felt that carrying a bag of Skittles justifies murder if you’re black.

Seems logical to Florida man.

biophile

(1,664 posts)
6. It was part of his speech regarding "walking while black" - the talk black parents must have with their kids
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:04 PM
4 hrs ago

Especially sons, about the dangers of living while non-white in our racist society. As noted in another response, it was after the Trayvon Martin killing, I think.

wyn borkins

(1,561 posts)
9. From the Internet:
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:09 PM
4 hrs ago

This (AI version) may be what you are referring to: "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." President Barack Obama made this comment in the WH Rose Garden in March 2012 following the tragic shooting death of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed Black teenager, by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman.

The Backlash:
Critics accused the President of politicizing an active criminal investigation and pitting Americans against each other solely based on race. Some commentators argued that by making the statement so personal, he was preemptively taking sides before all the facts of the case and the self-defense claim were brought to trial.

Obama's Intent:
Obama noted that his comments were made from the perspective of a Black parent and a Black man. He explicitly stated that when he thought about the boy, he thought about his own children, and the remark was intended to highlight the universal fear all parents have about the safety of their kids.

hamsterjill

(17,934 posts)
10. I finally got to watch her entire speech.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 01:56 PM
2 hrs ago

I cried through most of it, but I have got to say, it was one of the most inspiring twenty minutes I've spent in the last ten years, at least.

senseandsensibility

(25,943 posts)
11. Yes, it was wonderful on so many levels.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:34 PM
2 hrs ago

The content was great of course. But the delivery, the way she makes it seem like she is speaking contemporaneously and from the heart, is unmatched. Truly awe inspiring. Remember when Melania tried to give a speech that many said was a copy of Michelle's?

hamsterjill

(17,934 posts)
12. Who could forget the copy cat?
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:41 PM
1 hr ago

Michelle is, as you say, unmatched! Melania is a distant wanna be.

betsuni

(29,411 posts)
13. About Trayvon Martin, many white people said: "I guess we'll never really know what happened."
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:52 PM
45 min ago

"There are both sides to every story." Martin must have done something, they thought, it couldn't be what it in fact was. It made them defensive. Obama was playing the "race card" and inflaming racial tensions, right-wing media said.

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