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senseandsensibility

(26,053 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 02:58 PM Jun 21

It seems to me that trump is setting up JD and not even trying to hide it

As usual he telegraphs his intentions and he did that recently by explicitly saying that he would blame JD if the talks went badly. Now, on the day that the VP arrived for high level talks with Iran, trump takes to "lies social" and makes explicit threats against Iran leadership just as the talks are about to start.

The predictable result? According to MSNOW, the Iranians would not pose for a picture with JD and are delaying the start of the negotiations. JD is left standing there because his boss could not stop making threats even for the duration of the negotiations.

Trump, IMO is setting up his own VP to fail. Is JD too stupid to know this or too stupid to know what to do about it or both?

Rubio seems to be smart enough to try to melt into the furniture whenever he is forced to make an appearance. The dysfunction and chaos is not new. But the self-sabotage and infighting will sink this "deal", as bad as it is.

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It seems to me that trump is setting up JD and not even trying to hide it (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jun 21 OP
I once worked for a man who was an alcoholic UpInArms Jun 21 #1
You obviously had self respect. senseandsensibility Jun 21 #3
Their behavior as Trump's cuckolds is disqualifying PJMcK Jun 21 #13
All true, these t-rump lackeys are just a pack of morons, letting t-rump embarrass them over and over again... wcmagumba Jun 21 #2
I've been saying the same, so of course 100% agree AZJonnie Jun 21 #4
They are protecting Rubio. I've been calling him the Crown applegrove Jun 21 #5
The evidence I can see for myself senseandsensibility Jun 21 #9
Thank you in ad-Vance, sir Blue Owl Jun 21 #6
Jesus, I needed a warning for that face. Xavier Breath Jun 21 #10
Sorry! Blue Owl Jun 21 #11
Bullies need people to see that they are bullying. They feed off of the power trip. Midnight Writer Jun 21 #7
Does Trump respect Vance?... Norrrm Jun 21 #8
Ah. Who will the oligarchy choose orthoclad Jun 21 #12

UpInArms

(55,672 posts)
1. I once worked for a man who was an alcoholic
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:01 PM
Jun 21

And every time I got all the people working smoothly and all the projects doing well, he would go out on the properties and start screaming at all the workers

Needless to say, I left that monstrous job

senseandsensibility

(26,053 posts)
3. You obviously had self respect.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:03 PM
Jun 21

I guess JD and Rubio have none or they would have resigned already.

PJMcK

(25,230 posts)
13. Their behavior as Trump's cuckolds is disqualifying
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:54 PM
Jun 21

Neither of them is presidential material and neither is Trump. This administration is unserious about governing. It's only about the power and the grifting.

Rubio and Vance are used trash. Throw them out.

wcmagumba

(7,026 posts)
2. All true, these t-rump lackeys are just a pack of morons, letting t-rump embarrass them over and over again...
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:03 PM
Jun 21

This behavior is not getting them elected to anything, ever.

AZJonnie

(4,226 posts)
4. I've been saying the same, so of course 100% agree
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:06 PM
Jun 21

Couldn't be more obvious.

Also, Witkoff, Jared, and Bibi. This angle plays well with his base, for obvious reasons.

senseandsensibility

(26,053 posts)
9. The evidence I can see for myself
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:25 PM
Jun 21

supports your theory. Rubio is being protected and is smart enough to try to protect himself.

Blue Owl

(60,131 posts)
11. Sorry!
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:31 PM
Jun 21

But I get a lot of satisfaction posting it because I’ve heard how much JD hates that image….

Midnight Writer

(26,012 posts)
7. Bullies need people to see that they are bullying. They feed off of the power trip.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:55 PM
Jun 21

Bullies don't bully because they are tough guys. Bullies bully to convince themselves and others that they really are tough guys.

Bullying someone secretly is not enough for them. They have to bully flagrantly for it to be satisfying for them.

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