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PCIntern

(28,804 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 06:46 AM Monday

MEDICAL ALERT: Update on observations of FTD and CHF/RF

(Fronto-Temporal Dementia, Congestive heart failure, and Renal failure)

We are watching an asymptotic progress towards medical crisis. The rate of decline is increasing so the mathematical second derivative is in play here.

He is routinely using obscenities in his public statements, he is no longer recognizing those who should be readily familiar to him, the texture of his skin is changing almost daily, his hair is rapidly thinning, the contours of his face are altered due to edema.

The skin is the largest organ in the body and is very much susceptible to significant metabolic changes as is every other organ. This of course includes the hair follicles. The intricate combover is essentially gone, replaced by a vain attempt to imitate it.

The inability to recognize individuals, which he manifest some time ago, is worsening before our eyes. They have him in relative isolation because he can no longer be allowed to extemporize freely. This began a long time ago when he could not distinguish a photo of the young E.Jean Carroll from Marla Maples Trump, his wife. This, for any other individual, would have been an “all hands on deck” moment.

At this rate, his ability to fake functionality will be essentially zero within two months at the outside.

I may be wrong: I once made a mistake and said “nobody’s perfect”. 😀. But this time…I don’t think so.

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MEDICAL ALERT: Update on observations of FTD and CHF/RF (Original Post) PCIntern Monday OP
Our "all hands on deck" moment is the GOP's "clear the deck!" moment. eppur_se_muova Monday #1
It's just a wafer thin mint... PCIntern Monday #62
I am no Medical expert, but I have EXPERIENCE with Heart issues! ProudMNDemocrat Monday #2
I'm sorry for your loss MustLoveBeagles Monday #50
Thank you so much. ProudMNDemocrat Monday #59
I got FTD for him EYESORE 9001 Monday #3
The stink from his diapers will overwhelm your flowers. KS Toronado Monday #13
I knew a doctor iwillalwayswonderwhy Monday #28
whatever end stage disease that causes his demise, it can't come soon enough LymphocyteLover Monday #4
I agree MoseShrute Monday #7
On one level I agree, Miguelito Loveless Monday #55
How much damage could Jv do in two years? Tbear Monday #75
That's not a question that I would ask Wicked Blue Monday #84
It is one I asked myself a couple nights ago. Tbear Monday #112
I'll take Vance any day because he has no control over the cult LymphocyteLover Monday #92
And he has to dance to Theilʻs tune as well as soothe Chump mahina Monday #120
I suspect FTD as well Raven123 Monday #5
Briefly, I thought that episode very strange... Escape Monday #31
I don't know, I think it is SO on brand for him LR3 Monday #52
From your keyboard 3Hotdogs Monday #6
Don't threaten me with a good time!!! questionseverything Monday #8
Famous line by Negan in Walking Dead.... FarPoint Monday #22
Last March I had a nurse who had been doing it for 30 years and she said that any ..... Botany Monday #9
Independence Day bucolic_frolic Monday #30
Oh my, that would just be the best... ECL213 Monday #91
As long as it is the former of her predictions, the latter is already here RandomNumbers Monday #113
But he doesn't need to be able to fake functionality. Scrivener7 Monday #10
Once upon a time Miguelito Loveless Monday #57
He's ditched the ridiculous hats lately too. Hugin Monday #11
I think a hat messes up his new wig, gab13by13 Monday #14
He had a hat on yesterday IbogaProject Monday #17
I'm going to start checking to see if it's file footage. Hugin Monday #18
It was where recent danage to the WH Columns is shown IbogaProject Monday #21
Great post and explanation. Better than the Meidas Touch (and other) youtuber videos promising "IT'S HAPPENING!!" or... QueerDuck Monday #12
My favorites are: PCIntern Monday #16
But Meidas Touch doubles and sometimes triples Scrivener7 Monday #26
They look like idiots... that's not the kind of "marketing" that impresses me. Our side needs to do better. QueerDuck Monday #73
They may not be trying to impress you... vanlassie Monday #74
I can see that my contempt for their repetitive nothing-burgers and clickbait style has probably ruffled the feathers... QueerDuck Monday #76
I can't stand Meidas Touch. But I LOVE vanlassie Monday #80
Gotcha! 🫂 QueerDuck Monday #89
Sure. That's it. Your high standards have ruffled our feathers. Scrivener7 Monday #99
Clearly. 😂🤣 QueerDuck Monday #101
If you don't like it, don't watch it. Scrivener7 Monday #98
LOL! I don't. But I've watched enough in the past to figure out their cheap gimmick... QueerDuck Monday #100
With the big yellow arrow mcar Monday #24
Kick dalton99a Monday #15
I'm sure the smell is worsening too wolfie001 Monday #19
Renal failure causes a distinct body and breath odor. RockCreek Monday #35
Noice! No sympathy from me wolfie001 Monday #60
I try to look on the bright side too MustLoveBeagles Monday #53
..... wolfie001 Monday #61
;-{) THIS Goonch Monday #20
I noticed the hair. The hair makes the rest of this believable to MAGATs. Festivito Monday #23
22 lying medical specialists? GusBob Monday #25
Many years ago, I worked for an eye doctor. wnylib Monday #40
can get all on Perjury dave99 Monday #49
Doesn't perjury apply only if the liar is under oath? wnylib Monday #64
Just need a Democract, Raskin, to get the 22 to talk in front of a Congresstional Board dave99 Monday #86
They might use HIPPA as a reason not to answer. wnylib Monday #108
Question: Is the thing posing as president a well man ? dave99 Monday #111
The corneas can swell during pregnancy. 3catwoman3 Monday #93
Yes, that is one example that the doctor gave me. wnylib Monday #109
Do you remember any of the other eye signs the doc told you about? 3catwoman3 Monday #117
I only remember one other one. It was a long time ago. wnylib Monday #119
trump went to Camp David possibly for treatment LetMyPeopleVote Monday #27
Doesn't he hate Camp David? 3catwoman3 Monday #94
trump is NOT a wooded log cabin type of guy LetMyPeopleVote Monday #105
Sheesh! Look how he's junked up the Oval Office. calimary Tuesday #125
Maybe FTD but radical noodle Monday #29
Sure Jan.... (sadly) OhioBack2Blue Monday #32
First of all... PCIntern Monday #34
So you're saying he may be down to only 2 years left give or take. Torchlight Monday #39
You don't know when he was initially diagnosed. BannonsLiver Monday #47
True, but the more comorbidities Miguelito Loveless Monday #58
Exactly and PCIntern Monday #106
The last of the great Miguelito Loveless Monday #118
When did he play golf last? The Madcap Monday #33
*heehee* buzzycrumbhunger Monday #79
Couldn't he have the common decency to wait until the election night BLUE FUCKING WAVE to die? Submariner Monday #36
This "patient" has been doing this for years. progressoid Monday #37
Be that as it may, the deterioration is rapidly accelerating. flashman13 Monday #38
According to this site, The Felon has golfed every Saturday and Sunday the past 2 weeks Wednesdays Monday #42
Last weekend was the gladiator games. This weekend Camp David. flashman13 Monday #44
Yeah, the last golf outing I could find cited outside that site was in March. Wednesdays Monday #46
Well they are SAYING he's playing golf, that much is certain. BannonsLiver Monday #48
22 specialists say he is the healthiest man ever to occupy the oval office. flashman13 Monday #66
Yep. Nobody has ever seen anything like it before. BannonsLiver Monday #67
Oh, I hate that phrase soooo much. The Madcap Monday #82
The "nobody has ever seen anything like it before" part is certainly true. 3catwoman3 Monday #97
Is swatting balls into ponds & bunkers for your caddy to 'fetch' then riding in a cart really golfing? Attilatheblond Monday #114
And I know people who smoked 2 1/2 packs a day and lived to nearly 100 PCIntern Monday #41
We could go through thousands of posts detailing trump's poor health over the last 11 years progressoid Monday #63
I knew Reagan had early Alzheimer's in his first term PCIntern Monday #65
Right. progressoid Monday #70
Alzheimer's in particular can progress at varying speeds PCIntern Monday #71
There's also roadkill loon RFK Jr. running the Dept. of Health Wicked Blue Monday #88
I hope you're right. However I've been waiting for him to disappear for quite some time... NNadir Monday #43
Like a monkey, he will eventually start throwing shit at people. Dan Monday #45
Followed by... The Madcap Monday #83
Got fireworks on standby!!! N/t gay texan Monday #51
For some reason wendyb-NC Monday #54
trumps his ugly & dumber twin MustLoveBeagles Monday #56
They are propping up Vance is also a big tell on the orange one's future. boston bean Monday #68
Yup, they have him all over the place obamanut2012 Monday #69
The day Orange Julius Caesar dies, the US will have TWO Independence Days to celebrate! generalbetrayus Monday #72
The downside of this genetic combination of Anolis lizard and octopus that has laid her last eggs DFW Monday #77
Well what about President Jeffries? NNadir Monday #78
Even assuming we take the House DFW Monday #87
I'm fairly confident we will take the house. NNadir Monday #90
So am I, however.... DFW Monday #102
Well, the problem with soothsaying about the future is that it is only good until the future comes. NNadir Monday #104
True enough DFW Tuesday #124
That is a very scary situation! CaliforniaPeggy Monday #81
The suspense is killing me buzzycrumbhunger Monday #85
His father is said to have lived to 93 nitpicked Monday #95
His father undoubtedly did not live on a diet of Big Macs PCIntern Monday #96
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy! Bluepinky Monday #103
Waiting for FacePlant as it walks down a staircase, hitting several step edges as it ozes down dave99 Monday #107
Chunks and limbs falling off all the way down Blue Owl Monday #122
The least he can do for us is to drop dead on camera. Iggo Monday #110
Mom actually drove the car through the garage wall TBF Monday #115
TickTock. Thank you for this. Made my day. He's a menace to the world. Joinfortmill Monday #116
Oh Donny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling..... Blue Owl Monday #121
K&R spanone Monday #123

eppur_se_muova

(42,910 posts)
1. Our "all hands on deck" moment is the GOP's "clear the deck!" moment.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:06 AM
Monday

Last edited Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Nobody wants to be too close when he blows.

ProudMNDemocrat

(21,031 posts)
2. I am no Medical expert, but I have EXPERIENCE with Heart issues!
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:09 AM
Monday

In the 6 months before my husband died, he changed so much medically and in personality.

Skin changes: More bruises in places not usually prone to be struck. More puffiness due to fluid retention. The whites of his eyes looking more yellow.

Obvious physical changes: More Exhaustion. He would complain he was so tired after getting what I could see a good night's sleep. Less physical activity. Balance issues becoming more noticeable. Loss of appetite. More anger and cruel words.(I was his caregiver and it was not easy.) More frequent memory loss due to lack of blood flow to the brain.

Medical changes: Shortness of breath. Edema everywhere from Kidney failure. Irregular heart rates. Agitation due to growing awareness of death.

Donald Trump is exhibiting all these signs. His awful appearance at the G7 was obvious. He has Congestive Heart Failure with growing Kidney and Liver failure. The changes in the skin turning more yellow and orange from higher Bilirubin levels. Some turn more white. My husband was turning orange and bruised. He was also a Type II Diabetic. When I could no longer care for him, my husband was taken to another section of the Facility where he could get more care and supervision. 11 days later, he was dead.

It is becoming more obvious that Donald Trump is deteriorating rapidly. His tweets are becoming more erratic and paranoid in tone. It's time for the 25th Amendment.

MustLoveBeagles

(18,339 posts)
50. I'm sorry for your loss
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:47 PM
Monday

It must've been heartbreaking for you to see your husband turn into a stranger. My grandma and mom were in a similar situation.

Miguelito Loveless

(6,058 posts)
55. On one level I agree,
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:20 PM
Monday

on the other the guy who currently calls himself Vance and who is totally beholden to Peter Thiel.

Tbear

(756 posts)
75. How much damage could Jv do in two years?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:03 PM
Monday

Assuming a democratic House. Theil’s best chance as it will be.

Tbear

(756 posts)
112. It is one I asked myself a couple nights ago.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:38 PM
Monday

I really don’t know and that concerns me.

mahina

(20,837 posts)
120. And he has to dance to Theilʻs tune as well as soothe Chump
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:50 PM
Monday

While placating the 30% and not setting the world of fire in plain sight.

Plus, Theil is a giant wierdo.

Escape

(551 posts)
31. Briefly, I thought that episode very strange...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:35 AM
Monday

Of course, he lies constantly, but to make up such a silly story based on nothing was bizarre...BUT, as the disaster of the Iran War, his idiotic birthday bash and the green slime pool were unfolding, the media and the American people were captivated by the blatant bullshit about Meloni.

So, it became the distraction du jour, just as it was intended.

LR3

(220 posts)
52. I don't know, I think it is SO on brand for him
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:55 PM
Monday

To me, it seems like a classic example of his narcissism--everyone is begging for his attention because he is the world's most powerful, wonderful, and in demand person in all of history in his mind.

Botany

(78,256 posts)
9. Last March I had a nurse who had been doing it for 30 years and she said that any .....
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:54 AM
Monday

Last edited Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:10 AM - Edit history (2)

…. patient that exhibited the signs she saw from Trump was gone in under a year either
dead or cognitively. I hope she was right. The White House is trying to hide it but they
can’t any longer. When he stormed out of his interview with NBC’s Welker he could barely
stand up and walked away with slumped shoulders too.

Could the 4th really be a real Independence Day?


Edit

Trump’s break down mentally can be seen in his use of obscene language in public,
his preposterous claims that vandals are what is wrong with the reflecting pool after
he fucked it up, that Italy’s President (P.M.?) begged him to get her picture taken
with him, and forgetting about diplomacy telling Iran that he is going to over the strait
of Hormuz along with stealing their oil as peace talks are underway. He has no more
filters.

He is also has been in hiding @ Camp David and he posted something about Father’s
Day to an unknown daughter.



bucolic_frolic

(56,337 posts)
30. Independence Day
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:19 AM
Monday

The Deliverance, the Irony, the Symbolism

May our Founders have their Day

ECL213

(471 posts)
91. Oh my, that would just be the best...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:26 PM
Monday

Then every year we could celebrate his death with fireworks.

RandomNumbers

(19,309 posts)
113. As long as it is the former of her predictions, the latter is already here
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:48 PM
Monday

(referring to this part of the post: "was gone in under a year either dead or cognitively" )

Scrivener7

(60,379 posts)
10. But he doesn't need to be able to fake functionality.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:58 AM
Monday

That's always been the problem. He could strip naked and run through the streets and the press will say he's being "unorthodox" or he's "giving a strong message."

Miguelito Loveless

(6,058 posts)
57. Once upon a time
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:25 PM
Monday

I said the Child Rapist could beat a kitten to death with a puppy on the White House lawn and the Corporate Media and his followers would praise him for helping homeless animals.

I have since modified it to "Trump could rape young MAGA daughters, and the Corporate Media™ would praise him for addressing women's issues, while MAGA would berate their wives for not birthing enough daughters."

Hugin

(38,111 posts)
11. He's ditched the ridiculous hats lately too.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:00 AM
Monday

Looking back it seems to have happened a couple of months ago. I didn’t realize it until I saw the military propaganda video.

Hugin

(38,111 posts)
18. I'm going to start checking to see if it's file footage.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:37 AM
Monday

It’s also possible that occasionally a handler hands him a hat. It doesn’t seem internally vanity driven lately.

QueerDuck

(2,165 posts)
12. Great post and explanation. Better than the Meidas Touch (and other) youtuber videos promising "IT'S HAPPENING!!" or...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:02 AM
Monday

... "TODAY IS THE DAY!" or "TRUMP COLLAPSES!" or "OMG HE'S DYING!" with their fake proclamations and clickbait promises and AI-generated-yellow-arrow-Impact-font fake thumbnails.

This actually gives me hope! Thank you!

Scrivener7

(60,379 posts)
26. But Meidas Touch doubles and sometimes triples
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:05 AM
Monday

Joe Rogan's viewerships. Because of that marketing. They're reaching the ones who are not like us. I am grateful to them for that.

QueerDuck

(2,165 posts)
73. They look like idiots... that's not the kind of "marketing" that impresses me. Our side needs to do better.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:44 PM
Monday

How many times can someone hear "HE'S DYING" or "HE COLLAPSED" and "TODAY IS THE DAY" before they realize it's all bullshit. --- It just sucks people into a vortex or hype, snake-oil, broken promises, empty lies, repetitition, along with gloom and doom, and "please subscribe" requests. It benefits only their bottom line. They have become the commercialized "main stream media" that they used to criticize.

But having said that: "At least they're on our side. Yay. I guess."

vanlassie

(6,305 posts)
74. They may not be trying to impress you...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:51 PM
Monday

“Meidas Touch doubles and sometimes triples
6:05 AM
Joe Rogan's viewerships. Because of that marketing. They're reaching the ones who are not like us. ”

QueerDuck

(2,165 posts)
76. I can see that my contempt for their repetitive nothing-burgers and clickbait style has probably ruffled the feathers...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:05 PM
Monday

...of at least one of fans and admirers. Sorry.

"They may not be trying to impress you..." Ha! Ya think? 😂🤣

I guess I just have higher standards. We can do better than those guys.

vanlassie

(6,305 posts)
80. I can't stand Meidas Touch. But I LOVE
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:29 PM
Monday

anything that gets the attention of people who like that shit.

It’s not about us. 😉

Scrivener7

(60,379 posts)
99. Sure. That's it. Your high standards have ruffled our feathers.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 05:01 PM
Monday

Because we care deeply that you don't like a YouTube channel.
Have a nice night.

QueerDuck

(2,165 posts)
100. LOL! I don't. But I've watched enough in the past to figure out their cheap gimmick...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 05:04 PM
Monday

... and to know that it's all about lining their own pockets at the expense of gullible subscribers who fall for the clickbait. It deserved to be called-out and labeled for what it is, not defended.

wolfie001

(8,202 posts)
19. I'm sure the smell is worsening too
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:44 AM
Monday

I find it comforting that his closest bootlickers are having to deal with Dump's 3D stink-O-vision in real time.

RockCreek

(1,636 posts)
35. Renal failure causes a distinct body and breath odor.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:11 AM
Monday

The bottom stench may serve a function of covering up that smell.

Festivito

(13,954 posts)
23. I noticed the hair. The hair makes the rest of this believable to MAGATs.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:58 AM
Monday

They do have their breaking point.

Does his body end before the war ends? Or before our strategic fuel supply runs dry.

GusBob

(8,325 posts)
25. 22 lying medical specialists?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:01 AM
Monday

What exactly the sanction against them?
Are they committing fraud or treason ?
Do they all know, or is the truth covered up from each specialist? ( I.e the eye guy doesn’t get the whole history and his told: your report is eyes only, nothing else ) given that, are they practicing full scope quality of care or substandard inadequate voodism?
Are all medical specialists MD’s ? Are there some sort who take no oath?
If your theory is correct, they are putting the safety of the nation and the world at risk, I wonder: how can they sleep at night?

wnylib

(26,832 posts)
40. Many years ago, I worked for an eye doctor.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:06 PM
Monday

He told me that several disorders can be diagnosed or suspected in eye exams. As he put it, the eye is the mirror of the body, not just the "soul" as poets say.

He said that he could tell things like when a woman was pregnant even if her pregnancy was not yet visible.

I have an autoimmune disorder that was discovered after an eye doctor told me, following an exam, that I needed to see an internist for a complete physical because there was something systemic that was causing my blurred vision. She did not know what the specific cause was, but she knew that my vision had changed too much in just one year for an adult. She suspected diabetes bc it exists in.my family. She was not far off. It is not diabetes, which is also an autoimmune disorder, but mine can show up in families where diabetes is present.

So an eye specialist would know if more was going on with Trump than vision problems.

Disorders in one system can show symptoms in other systems of the body. That's why a doctor will suspect something in a physical and refer a patient to a different specialist.

Trump's 22 doctors are all most likely aware of other medical issues in him besides their own specialties.

wnylib

(26,832 posts)
64. Doesn't perjury apply only if the liar is under oath?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:48 PM
Monday

Were the doctors under oath when they gave their reports to the press?

dave99

(586 posts)
86. Just need a Democract, Raskin, to get the 22 to talk in front of a Congresstional Board
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:43 PM
Monday

Wonder what any of the 22 will say?

wnylib

(26,832 posts)
108. They might use HIPPA as a reason not to answer.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 06:52 PM
Monday

I am not trying to set up roadblocks to info, just recognizing what the doctors might do.

dave99

(586 posts)
111. Question: Is the thing posing as president a well man ?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 06:56 PM
Monday

Can't answer a vague request for status ?

Looks like a 60 day to 320 day Perjury visit to prison plus fine.

3catwoman3

(30,206 posts)
93. The corneas can swell during pregnancy.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:45 PM
Monday

A colleague was not able to wear her contact lenses while pregnant because of this.

3catwoman3

(30,206 posts)
117. Do you remember any of the other eye signs the doc told you about?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:54 PM
Monday

My retired nurse self loves knowing things like this.

wnylib

(26,832 posts)
119. I only remember one other one. It was a long time ago.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:39 PM
Monday

Last edited Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:40 AM - Edit history (1)

He mentioned that he could see signs of diabetes in the eyes. He even told me what the signs were but I do not remember them now..

calimary

(91,473 posts)
125. Sheesh! Look how he's junked up the Oval Office.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:16 AM
Tuesday

All that cheesy “gold” crap by on the walls and doors.

Really trashy-looking.

radical noodle

(10,747 posts)
29. Maybe FTD but
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:10 AM
Monday

I tend to think this is just a malignant narcissist who has been given unlimited power to do whatever he wants. He's always been this way, but just on a different level. The Supreme Court gave him immunity and the GOP has given him a blank check, which means he believes he can do all those things that deep down he's always wanted to do.

OhioBack2Blue

(229 posts)
32. Sure Jan.... (sadly)
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:37 AM
Monday

The average life expectancy for Frontotemporal dementia (FTD) is typically 6 to 13 years from the onset of symptoms, with many patients living about 7.5 to 10 years. However, progression rates vary, and some individuals can live for 20 years or more after the first signs of the disease.

Congestive Heart Failure (CHF) life expectancy varies significantly. While average estimates suggest about half of people survive past 5 years post-diagnosis, many live 10 to 15 years or longer.

PCIntern

(28,804 posts)
34. First of all...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:50 AM
Monday

Onset was not last week…he’s in a definite medical crisis. If he came into my office I’d send him right to the ER if he hadn’t already been in treatment. I think he’s had FTD for a long time now, it’s worsening rapidly.

That’s my considered opinion as someone who has worked with this geriatric population for nearly 50 years and in addition, watched my father go through the heart failure and concomitant kidney failure.

Torchlight

(7,239 posts)
39. So you're saying he may be down to only 2 years left give or take.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:42 AM
Monday

...dependent on interpretation of asserted data.

BannonsLiver

(21,029 posts)
47. You don't know when he was initially diagnosed.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:35 PM
Monday

I’m not sure I buy into the OPs hypothesis. There has been a lot of prognostication on this subject. but I don’t buy into the “he’s fine, he’ll live another decade” side of the argument either.

Miguelito Loveless

(6,058 posts)
58. True, but the more comorbidities
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:30 PM
Monday

the shorter that can be. Also, he started exhibiting dementia signs a decade ago.

The Madcap

(2,169 posts)
33. When did he play golf last?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:42 AM
Monday

How many holes? Final score?

I would think that once he stops, it's a signal of "GAME OVER."

buzzycrumbhunger

(2,398 posts)
79. *heehee*
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:24 PM
Monday

I doubt we’ve *ever* seen an accurate golf score for him. He lies about golf more than anything. Just think of all those tournaments at his course in which he declared total victory. I haven’t golfed since high school, I shattered my knee almost 20 years ago, and I bet even I could still beat him if someone impartial kept score.

Submariner

(13,488 posts)
36. Couldn't he have the common decency to wait until the election night BLUE FUCKING WAVE to die?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:26 AM
Monday

Of all the fucking nerve to appear to be getting ready to croak at the Camp David Hospice as summer fun kicks off.

I guess we should probably start reserving bicycle beer bars to follow the funeral procession for the party of the century.

progressoid

(53,570 posts)
37. This "patient" has been doing this for years.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:01 AM
Monday
-He is routinely using obscenities in his public statements
-he is no longer recognizing those who should be readily familiar to him
-The inability to recognize individuals

-etc


Heck, I know someone who exhibited most of these symptoms and was able to function independently until he was 91. He's still going at 93 today.

flashman13

(2,640 posts)
38. Be that as it may, the deterioration is rapidly accelerating.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:38 AM
Monday

The real give away is that he has quit playing golf. No question, FTD is on full display.

Wednesdays

(23,468 posts)
42. According to this site, The Felon has golfed every Saturday and Sunday the past 2 weeks
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:19 PM
Monday

And at least once a week since May 2.

Don't know how accurate the site is, so take the info as you will.


https://didtrumpgolftoday.com/

Having said that, as PCIntern pointed out, that doesn't at all mean he doesn't have FTD, CHF, or RF.

Wednesdays

(23,468 posts)
46. Yeah, the last golf outing I could find cited outside that site was in March.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:35 PM
Monday

OAN posted June 5 a video he put on Truth Social of him teeing off. But who knows when that video was actually shot? And if recent, was that all the golf he played that day?


On edit: this article from June 1 says The Felon "played golf," but details are scant. How many holes did he play? How well did he do? They just comment on the "mystery blonde" that accompanied him. Any bets that the "mystery blonde" was an undercover physician or nurse?
https://www.themirror.com/sport/golf/donald-trump-rocks-up-golf-1864202

BannonsLiver

(21,029 posts)
48. Well they are SAYING he's playing golf, that much is certain.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:41 PM
Monday

Who knows if it’s actually happening, though. Like everything else with this cabal it is hazardous to take anything at face value.

The Madcap

(2,169 posts)
82. Oh, I hate that phrase soooo much.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:34 PM
Monday

Every time I watch baseball on MLB, there's an ad for tennis coverage which contains a variation on that statement. It is so annoying, I turn the volume down when I know it's coming.

3catwoman3

(30,206 posts)
97. The "nobody has ever seen anything like it before" part is certainly true.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:57 PM
Monday

I hope we never do again.

Attilatheblond

(9,490 posts)
114. Is swatting balls into ponds & bunkers for your caddy to 'fetch' then riding in a cart really golfing?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:15 PM
Monday

I dunno much about golf, but that's not how my brother and brother in law play

PCIntern

(28,804 posts)
41. And I know people who smoked 2 1/2 packs a day and lived to nearly 100
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:13 PM
Monday

Most who did that died way way sooner. You only remember the exceptions to the rule.

For example: when’s the last time you heard someone say, “Look at the real tall old man !”? Sure there are a few, but most are gone early, relatively speaking.

progressoid

(53,570 posts)
63. We could go through thousands of posts detailing trump's poor health over the last 11 years
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:44 PM
Monday

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and find all sorts of diagnoses and claims of his imminent demise. And yet he goes on.

Yes, he has become more erratic over the last decade. And he has certainly slowed with age - as we all have. However, he has a few things we don't have: Some of the best doctors in the US. A cadre of people (like the project 2024 clan) who have a vested interest in keeping him in office. And most importantly, he has a sycophantic, cowardly media that will cover for any diminished functioning he is experiencing.

We all watched Reagan's decline while in office and he also managed to hang in there and inflict more damage to the US.

PCIntern

(28,804 posts)
65. I knew Reagan had early Alzheimer's in his first term
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:50 PM
Monday

Which was obvious to some clinicians because he had that fixation on the clear glass jar of jellybeans which had to be omnipresent. But virtually nobody I recall had a countdown for his passing. He was clearly a physically prodigious specimen.

progressoid

(53,570 posts)
70. Right.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:16 PM
Monday

And yet Ronnie continued to sit in the oval office and fuck up our nation until the end of his term.

I suppose I don't understand this fascination with Trump's physical health.

PCIntern

(28,804 posts)
71. Alzheimer's in particular can progress at varying speeds
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:35 PM
Monday

His condition was not rapid like Trump’s is.

The reason it’s a subject of interest is that it’s the ultimate rate-limiting thing that will end this cult once and for all. They will find other people to glom onto, but he or she will not have the staying power coupled with the arrogance, narcissism, and plain stupidity of this guy.

Wicked Blue

(9,096 posts)
88. There's also roadkill loon RFK Jr. running the Dept. of Health
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:54 PM
Monday

and who knows what weird things he's suggesting for T-rump.

Eye of newt, toe of frog, crack cocaine, algae from the Reflecting Pool ...

NNadir

(38,874 posts)
43. I hope you're right. However I've been waiting for him to disappear for quite some time...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:23 PM
Monday

...and regrettably he is still here.

DFW

(60,822 posts)
77. The downside of this genetic combination of Anolis lizard and octopus that has laid her last eggs
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:07 PM
Monday

Is “President” JD Vance, and even if the Republicans “persuade” him to step down, whether using the Goldwater Method or the Putin Method, then there’s “President” Mike Johnson to worry about.

We are, in both scenarios, a very large rudderless battleship with nuclear ordnance.

DFW

(60,822 posts)
87. Even assuming we take the House
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:49 PM
Monday

That would dissolve every Republican incentive to carry out any plans that they or Putin may have in place for Vance to start taking lessons for his pilot’s licence from some tenth floor hotel room.

NNadir

(38,874 posts)
90. I'm fairly confident we will take the house.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:22 PM
Monday

A President Jeffries seems as unlikely, I confess as say, in 2015, an ignorant, badly educated, inarticulate, racist, orange, pedophile becoming President of the United States.

It sounds like the plot of a badly scripted science fiction/horror film, totally unbelievable.

Improbable things do happen, not only for bad, but here and there for good.

DFW

(60,822 posts)
102. So am I, however....
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 05:07 PM
Monday

Trump and Vance would have to be permanently neutralized before January 3, 2027, or else the Republicans would never let Vance get even a band-aid if they feared it could to a President Jeffries. In case of Trump’s early demise, they could also nominate and ram through someone like Bondi or Hegseth as VP, in which case even Jeffries himself would order bodyguards and food tasters for Vance.

NNadir

(38,874 posts)
104. Well, the problem with soothsaying about the future is that it is only good until the future comes.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 05:56 PM
Monday

DFW

(60,822 posts)
124. True enough
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:16 AM
Tuesday

I remember Election Day 2016

There was no sunrise for the next four years

nitpicked

(2,047 posts)
95. His father is said to have lived to 93
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:52 PM
Monday

AND he's a sitting president with all of Walter Reed et.al. on tap.

Don't get your hopes up yet.

((Of course, I'm not a medical professional, but...))

PCIntern

(28,804 posts)
96. His father undoubtedly did not live on a diet of Big Macs
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:56 PM
Monday

and because you’re not a medical professional and I am, I’m speaking from competence. I have watched countless individuals pass away, including my father, from what he’s exhibiting physically.

dave99

(586 posts)
107. Waiting for FacePlant as it walks down a staircase, hitting several step edges as it ozes down
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 06:44 PM
Monday

TBF

(37,653 posts)
115. Mom actually drove the car through the garage wall
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:19 PM
Monday

and into the living room in her early 80s. My husband and I then realized we were dealing with his parents getting more ill. At that point she was ostensibly healthier, while dad was in rehab after a scare. Thankfully they had long-term care insurance, so we increased the hours we had aides in their home (and added tasks like take them shopping), so they were safe. Even with excellent care we lost them both within a couple years.

If Trump had a family that cared about him, he would have nurses in Mar a Lago caring for him 24/7 right now, rather than this hell we are all dealing with.

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