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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI used to be against expanding the Supreme Court, but ever since Trumpedo took over, and given
the blatantly unamerican decisions by this rogue court, I'm now in favor of expanding it when we take over the House, Senate and Executive branches of the govt. to right this sinking ship.
What say you?
EnergizedLib
(3,230 posts)Expand to 13, four young, liberal justices. Take the country back.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,266 posts)Aviation Pro
(15,889 posts)One to torment and abuse each one of those six vile motherfuckers.
We need stone cold pipehitters.
homegirl
(2,034 posts)business ..RESCIND CITIZENS UNITED!
JT45242
(4,241 posts)It would make sense.
I also want real judicial reform especially ethics with bite for penalty.
Soul_of_Wit
(206 posts)Congress needs ethical reform so that they have the moral authority to provide checks and balances. Insider trading is currently legal for folks with a lot of inside information.
JT45242
(4,241 posts)I was sticking to the judiciary because of the OP.
Insider trading, emoluments, lobbyist revolving door, citizens united and legal bribes or "tips"
lots of ethics laws need to be written and enforced.
ImNotGod
(1,325 posts)"reined them in" so to speak. It might work again just by attempting it as it scares the hell out of the fascist court majority, losing power is their worst fear.
OLDMDDEM
(3,336 posts)Ponietz
(4,617 posts)The dissonance between their sophistry and the plain meaning of words is untenable. We should certainly try to fix it before the entire thing collapses in on itself.
lavoosh99
(62 posts)Scubamatt
(334 posts)And the first thing we reverse is Citizen United.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,266 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(24,492 posts)And killing the filibuster to do so.
Whatever else is on anyones wish list for the future when Dems have the trifecta again, none of it is possible without expanding the court first.
Court expansion must be the one and only litmus/purity test for Dem candidates.
We must only elect Dems, especially Dem senators, who have the courage to kill the filibuster to pass court expansion.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,266 posts)Wednesdays
(23,470 posts)And what are you willing to bet that the current SCOTUS would strike down any court expansion, given that it can't come from a Constitutional Amendment?
in2herbs
(4,671 posts)Wednesdays
(23,470 posts)The Court can't strike down a Constitutional Amendment, but they can strike down an act of Congress.
lastlib
(28,846 posts)And also to set its jurisdiction, except for certain constitutional original jurisdiction. Simple soluton is to remove its jurisdiction over any case involving the number of members. It's superfluous, but WTH? CYA, JIC they try to get creative.
Wednesdays
(23,470 posts)Soul_of_Wit
(206 posts)Ideally, Congress would pass the Recusal Act first. Clearly, the Extreme Court shouldn't be able to rule to retain its own size.
Wednesdays
(23,470 posts)But have done anyway.
Mister Ed
(7,011 posts)Ferryboat
(1,287 posts)Allow EVERY President 1 pick and rotate out senior member until current group is replaced. This will stop the dog a pony show of hearings in congress.
Set a term limit.
Needless to say details need to be worked out.
LetMyPeopleVote
(184,013 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(25,222 posts)It's a reasonable basis for doing so. But I certainly wouldn't want it done quite yet!
Karma13612
(5,053 posts)Needs to be done once we have a Democratic president again. Dems deserve a fair shake considering that SOB got 3 slots to fill, and Mitch (is he still in the hospital??) denied Obama his picks.
Soul_of_Wit
(206 posts)...but we remember what he did. I still think Obama's worst moment was not creating a constitutional crisis by naming a SCOTUS pick anyway. No advice and consent equal no say in the matter. Force the then Supreme Court to rule on what Mitch did.
Karma13612
(5,053 posts)I was for it, even before the more odious rulings in the last couple years.
We need to have at least one Justice for each of the Federal ?Circuit?District? Courts, for work load alone. Our justice system is overburdened and understaffed.
Delays from weeks to months to years is just not acceptable. As the old saying goes, justice delayed is justice denied.
Farmer-Rick
(12,865 posts)On their version of a Supreme Court. I think the average size is 15 or more. 8 or 9 seems to be the smallest, while some have over 100 judges on their top courts.
I say the bigger the better. The bigger they are the harder it is to rig them and keep them rigged.
NBachers
(19,667 posts)AverageOldGuy
(4,383 posts)-- - how is the married life?
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,266 posts)with my fiancé.
HappyH
(288 posts)I hope you guys have many happy years going forward,
duckworth969
(1,452 posts)Rotation system of some sort, age out (not popular for many), govt watchdog for corruption accountability similar to all other judges in our country, bye bye shadow docket.
Finally, if Alito is rude from the bench, he gets bitch slapped three times by a pro.
FakeNoose
(43,062 posts)I think that has corrupted these judges more than any other thing. They should be appointed to a 10 year term, and it's NON-RENEWABLE. We have lots of federal judges in lower courts who never get a chance for appointment to the Supreme Court, and that's really unfair.
spanone
(142,256 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,604 posts)GiqueCee
(5,077 posts)... let's take out the trash, starting with Roberts.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,787 posts)I'm surprised Trump hasn't already expanded the court with another four Federalist Society / Leonard Leo recommendations..
maxsolomon
(39,430 posts)I think it's a quixotic and won't happen no matter what Dem is elected.
Katinfl
(940 posts)TomSlick
(13,128 posts)I still don't like it but I see no other option.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,781 posts)Because, based on past behavior, (Obama re-appointing Republican Comey, Biden appointing Republican Garland) I can totally see them trying to win over FOX News (which they never do) yet again by insisting that half have a Republican background. And go with the hope that they are moderate and non partisan in their thinking. (which they never are)
Figarosmom
(14,759 posts)It should have one judge per every 24,000,000 people or so. Made relative to number of people in the country.
xuplate
(261 posts)SCROTUS is abusing the Constitution.on behalf of reactionary elites. Expanding the court is the most efficient way to end it.
mwmisses4289
(5,179 posts)and overturning many of their decisions.
Soul_of_Wit
(206 posts)The X is for eXtreme.
oasis
(54,351 posts)to the curb.
Lets get it done people!!!
HappyH
(288 posts)1 for each Federal Circuit. I hoping that will happen in 2029 and we get 4 young and very liberal judges.
marble falls
(73,544 posts)... of the time. Swap out Thomas and Alito and the number would go up.
All we need to do is not allow lame duck TACO name Thomas' replacement. If he dies in the eight years of a Democratic President and Congress. It's OK, too. Just don't let that lame duck name the next justice.
Bluetus
(3,321 posts)The idea that 9 people have the knowledge and wisdom to rule on all aspects of our complex society today (science, technology, ethics, medicine trade, treaties, separation of powers, etc.) is absolutely preposterous.
A more appropriate organization might be to have several smaller panels that have particular expertise, for example
* Science, technology, medicine, telecom, environment
* Constitutional law and politics
* Business practices, tax law, and cases related to commerce
* Foreign affairs, treaties, etc.
And another panel that is responsible for administrative things like injunctions, appeals and schedules, and issues that overlap two or more of the above panels.
Each of these panels could easily have 9-12 members to make sure we have sufficient expertise in all areas.
In such a structure, the Chief shouldn't have a vote at all on cases before the court, but would have specific areas where he/she would have decision-making authority for the good and efficiency of the court. Rotate that Chief ever 2-3 years.
Goonch
(5,986 posts)
Alice Kramden
(2,992 posts)We have no other reasonable choice
yellow dahlia
(6,909 posts)When the number of Justices stopped at nine, there were nine circuits. There are now thirteen circuits. The circuits are each overseen by a SC Judge. Currently four of the judges have to oversee two circuits.
Thirteen Circuits - Thirteen Justices.