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SleeplessinSoCal

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Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:02 AM Dec 2013

Stanley Druckenmiller on Charlie Rose

I couldn't watch. Too upsetting. But I've been reading about how he's gathering an army of college students to do radical entitlement reform.

Some of the worst of his ideas (sweetened with support for gay marriage and environmental action) are in the article linked below.

When the former money manager visited Stanford University, the audience included older folks as well as students. Some of the oldsters questioned why many of his dire forecasts assume that federal tax collections will stay at their traditional 18.5% of GDP. They asked why taxes should not rise to fulfill the promises already made.

Mr. Druckenmiller's response: "Oh, so you've paid 18.5% for your 40 years and now you want the next generation of workers to pay 30% to finance your largess?" He added that if 18.5% was "so immoral, why don't you give back some of your ill-gotten gains of the last 40 years?"

He has a similar argument for those on the left who say entitlements can be fixed with an eventual increase in payroll taxes. "Oh, I see," he says. "So I get to pay a 12% payroll tax now until I'm 65 and then I don't pay. But the next generation—instead of me paying 15% or having my benefits slightly reduced—they're going to pay 17% in 2033. That's why we're waiting—so we can shift even more to the future than to now?"

He also rejects the "rat through the python theory," which holds that the fiscal disaster will only be temporary while the baby-boom generation moves through the benefit pipeline and then entitlement costs will become bearable. By then, he says, "you have so much debt on the books that it's too late."

Unfortunately for taxpayers, "the debt accumulates while the rat's going through the python," so by the 2040s the debt itself and its gargantuan interest payments become bigger problems than entitlements. He points to a chart that shows how America's debt-to-GDP ratio, the amount of debt compared with national income, explodes in about 20 years. That's where Greece was when it hit the skids, he says, pointing to about 2030.


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303680404579141790296396688
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Stanley Druckenmiller on Charlie Rose (Original Post) SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2013 OP
Rose often hosts Right-Wing nut-jobs, giving them free reign to spout the most insane bullshit! Bill USA Dec 2013 #1
Neo-Liberalism TheGoodNews Mar 2014 #2

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
1. Rose often hosts Right-Wing nut-jobs, giving them free reign to spout the most insane bullshit!
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:52 PM
Dec 2013

Rose licks them up one side and down the other. One of the worst toadies of the GOP in M$M. He shows no shame in being a Fascisti Fellatiore.

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