Ohio Votes Cast for Green Party Candidate Won't Count Due to VP Swap

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: US News and World Report/AP

Sept. 25, 2024, at 5:22 p.m.


COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Votes cast in Ohio for Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein will not count because the party nominated her running mate after a state administrative deadline, according to state election officials.

Stein, who filed to run as an independent presidential candidate in Ohio because the Green Party lost state recognition several years ago, will still appear on state ballots, said Dan Lusheck, a spokesman for the Ohio Secretary of State's office, told Cleveland.com. The state started sending out ballots last week to overseas and military voters.

When Stein filed to run for president in Ohio, she listed Anita Rios — the Green Party’s 2014 nominee for Ohio governor — as her running mate. However, Rios’ name was only submitted as a placeholder until the Green Party nominated Butch Ware as Stein's running mate at their national convention Aug. 17.

When Rios notified the Ohio secretary of state’s office in late August that she was pulling her name from the ballot in favor of Ware, the office accepted her withdrawal but refused to add Ware’s name in her place. Philena Farley, co-chair of the Ohio Green Party, told the newspaper that the office said the change could not be made because the state deadline to replace an independent vice-presidential candidate on the 2024 ballot was Aug. 12.

Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2024-09-25/ohio-votes-cast-for-green-party-candidate-wont-count-due-to-vp-swap

[Voltaire2]

1. Their effect remains unchanged.

Our stupid system makes third party votes and non-votes equivalent. In some better future we require a majority to win.

[anamnua]

3. People

will be less likely to vote for a dud candidate.

[Voltaire2]

9. Sure, but it was a protest vote anyway

Stein wasn’t going to win. The vast majority of Green Party voters aren’t going to switch to Harris or Trump.

[FarPoint]

2. Ohio has some good points...

Dedicated politicians in Ohio are dwindling....this time the job was done correctly and timely...

[Stpblk]

4. Jill Stein

She’s just a friggin spoiler anyway

[LetMyPeopleVote]

13. Welcome to DU

[marble falls]

5. Shame they can't read the rules. Too bad Rios didn't just stay on the ticket. It isn't as if she missed her ...

... opportunity to be VPOTUS.

The problem I have with the Greens is:

1. They aren't the Democratic Party.
2. When I looked into the Greens, there were as many RWers as lefties, at least here in Texas.

The older I get the better democratic socialism looks.

[Best_man23]

6. A Vote for Stein IS a Vote for the R's Convicted Felon

Just saying.

[Vinca]

7. If you vote third party you might as well flush your ballot down the commode.

We have a two-party system, not a parliamentary system. Some people don't seem to grasp that.

[Ray Bruns]

8. Kang and Kodos agree.

https://m.

[Voltaire2]

10. Any third party can theoretically win any election

If they are on the ballot. We don’t have a ‘two party system’ we have a plurality election system. That does of course tend to institutionalize two parties, but it is only a tendency, and in our past new major parties have emerged. Also the UK is a parliamentary system and also uses plurality elections, and also has two major parties.

[Vinca]

12. If you belong to a third party or even run as an Independent and win, you are powerless unless

you join either the Democratic or Republican side. Your clout is nonexistent if you don't. You're just a seat filler. In countries with parliamentary systems you might get proportional power. Here you get zip.

[Voltaire2]

15. Or take over as one of the major parties.

In countries with proportional representation, smaller parties can be part of ruling coalitions. A parliamentary system does not require proportional representation. The UK has a parliamentary system and plurality elections, and no proportional representation, and consequently two major parties.

[sdfernando]

11. Practically you are correct, however

the U.S., technically, does have a multi-party system. Just that there have only really ever been two dominant political parties...so for practical purposes, yes, we are a two-party system.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

14. Is it too much to hope for that after this election we never hear of, or from, Ms. Stein

ever again - along with Frump.