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mahatmakanejeeves

(60,873 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 02:46 AM Oct 15

Trump sways and bops to music for 39 minutes in bizarre town hall episode

Last edited Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:17 AM - Edit history (2)

Source: Washington Post

Trump sways and bops to music for 39 minutes in bizarre town hall episode
The scene comes as Vice President Kamala Harris has called Trump, 78, unstable and called into question his mental acuity.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DGZ2G0jGnhk

On Oct. 14, former president Donald Trump had to cut a town hall short in Oaks, Pa., but remained onstage for a half hour swaying to the background music. (Video: Alisa Shodiyev Kaff/The Washington Post, Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

By Marianne LeVine
Updated October 15, 2024 at 1:08 a.m. EDT Published October 14, 2024 at 11:26 p.m. EDT

OAKS, Pa. -- The town hall, moderated by South Dakota Gov. Kristi L. Noem (R), began with questions from preselected attendees for the former president. Donald Trump offered meandering answers for how he would address housing affordability and help small businesses. But it took a sudden turn after two attendees required medical attention.

And so Trump, after jokingly asking the crowd whether "anybody else would like to faint," took a different approach. ... "Let's not do any more questions. Let's just listen to music. Let's make it into a music. Who the hell wants to hear questions, right?" he said. ... He played nine tracks. He danced. He shook hands with people onstage. He pointed to the crowd. Noem stood beside him, nodding with her hands clasped. Trump stayed in place onstage, slowly moving back and forth. He was done answering questions for the night.

"Total lovefest at the PA townhall! Everyone was so excited they were fainting so @realDonaldTrump turned to music," campaign spokesman Steven Cheung wrote on X. "Nobody wanted to leave and wanted to hear more songs from the famous DJT Spotify playlist!"

{snip}

As Trump stood onstage in his oversize suit and bright red tie, swaying back and forth, it was almost as if he were taking a trip back to the decades past. Trump's decision to cut short the question-and-answer portion of the town hall and instead have the crowd stay to listen to his favorite songs was a somewhat bizarre move, given that the election was only 22 days away. It also comes as Vice President Kamala Harris has called Trump, 78, unstable and called into question his mental acuity.

{snip}

By Marianne LeVine
Marianne LeVine is a national political reporter for The Washington Post.follow on X @marianne_levine

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/14/trump-music-sways-town-hall/



Sure, Steve.

Ordinarily I don't treat Trump rallies as newsworthy, but this is usually the point where family members start thinking maybe it's time for an intervention.

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The headline still uses "bizarre" when I go to the article. This headline might be on the teaser (i.e., clickbait) page.

Update. Hat tip, Mz Pip

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143322622#post44

Wa Po changed its headline
Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 11:03 AM
At first it said "bizarre" then they rewrote it to "unusual."

Nearly every comment to the article called them on it or at least saw through it and saw it for what it was - a sundowning old man who has no business being president.
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Trump sways and bops to music for 39 minutes in bizarre town hall episode (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Oct 15 OP
Weird.. ._. Oct 15 #1
Train has left the station ... BlueWavePsych Oct 15 #56
Lol, appropriate cartoon. Dave Bowman Oct 15 #76
Right, ,my take on it as well. I'd say that reminds me of myself when I'm ripped. msfiddlestix Oct 15 #70
Pay wall. It's only available to Washington Post folks. No other sites have any video. :( C Moon Oct 15 #2
Gift article: littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #3
Thanks. I can't link to that when I'm posting from a phone. NT mahatmakanejeeves Oct 15 #5
YW, mahat. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #18
Thank you! chia Oct 15 #8
YW, chia. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #19
Thanks, SmartyPants! SergeStorms Oct 15 #15
My pleasure, SergeStorms. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #20
Psychopath says: littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #4
Are they just crisis actors? Designed to get him out of having to answer questions? COL Mustard Oct 15 #16
Not a term I'd think I'd use. ... littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #17
I was using it deliberately COL Mustard Oct 15 #22
Oh. I rarely think of them. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #23
COL Mustard.......... Upthevibe Oct 15 #59
I just read that in the gift link. "Ave Maria" at a fucking rally? WTAF??? niyad Oct 15 #35
Yeah. Totally bizarre. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #39
Pavarotti died in 2007, so he can't sue Sludge Goblin for use of his singing? Wild blueberry Oct 15 #49
Also Prince died. as did Cohen. I hope their estates sue. debm55 Oct 15 #57
Notice he is... littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #58
Sludge Goblin Bozvotros Oct 15 #68
That is indeed a beautiful coinage! ShazzieB Oct 15 #83
Crossed my mind he was pissed that their medical issue interrupted his "me" fest... Thomas Hurt Oct 15 #81
Paywall and the free gift article posted by a reader requires subscription info. I don't want to do that. brush Oct 15 #6
Wapo didn't used to require that for gift articles. Here's a workaround if you have apple's latest update: chia Oct 15 #7
Link here UpInArms Oct 15 #12
I have an email account through DuckDuckGo. It's a burner account AllyCat Oct 15 #14
The entire video can be found here, brush True Dough Oct 15 #27
Thanks but... llmart Oct 15 #32
I understand completely True Dough Oct 15 #43
I just used the free gift link, and was not asked for anything. niyad Oct 15 #36
Not the link I posted. ... littlemissmartypants Oct 15 #41
Was he doing his signature dance... regnaD kciN Oct 15 #9
No he just sways side to side Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 15 #11
That's what STORMY said! n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 15 #66
Trump has 3 "dance moves" Botany Oct 15 #37
Normally a man with this level of dementia would have his car keys take away,, but Trump could be getting the Doodley Oct 15 #10
Cue the tune.."If I ruled the world".. BattleRow Oct 15 #77
If Biden did anything like this it would lead all over the news MistakenLamb Oct 15 #13
This morning's network news shows are totally sane washing the incident Walleye Oct 15 #21
Yup Ursus Arctos Oct 15 #26
I noticed that also. llmart Oct 15 #30
The national evening news is sanewashing and drug ads ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 15 #67
Absolutely bizarre gademocrat7 Oct 15 #24
elon replaced traitor with an automaton Marthe48 Oct 15 #25
The family won't do anything--the GOP's already providing adult day care for him. tanyev Oct 15 #28
One positive for me personally get the red out Oct 15 #29
Just an act, at this point he's just trying to outdo his last outrage. He's an actor. Clouds Passing Oct 15 #31
A fucking cartoon johnnyfins Oct 15 #45
Indeed Clouds Passing Oct 15 #62
I wonder if he's trying to show AdamGG Oct 15 #74
Click on the first link in the post. Katinfl Oct 15 #33
And the band played on. Baitball Blogger Oct 15 #34
"his famous spotify playlist"??? First I have heard of it. Another of his weird niyad Oct 15 #38
I guess, when you have a "beautiful body" ....... 70sEraVet Oct 15 #40
Gee, thanks. I didn't really need breakfast anyway! niyad Oct 15 #42
Wa Po changed its headline Mz Pip Oct 15 #44
Now is the time at the rally when we dance! Ray Bruns Oct 15 #46
TYVM for this post Mahatma, and to LMSP for the gift link. Take grandpa's car keys away... Hekate Oct 15 #47
I flipped over to CSPAN looking for VP Harris kimbutgar Oct 15 #48
Check the stash jr.. republianmushroom Oct 15 #50
The reeeeeally want to get Trump/Vance into office so they can 25 Trump and make Vance President, don't they? Beartracks Oct 15 #51
Why waste time with the 25th Amendment? n/t malthaussen Oct 15 #65
Love to know what artists' honor he sullied for this one. JohnnyRingo Oct 15 #52
A whole new twist on "Facing the Music" Zambero Oct 15 #53
The Broadway musical "The Music Man", BattleRow Oct 15 #75
people with dementia usually enjoy music, it connects them to memories and the moment. that's how it was with my mom. Javaman Oct 15 #54
Super KRA KRA! BlueWavePsych Oct 15 #55
I caught a bit on ABC news this morning Quanto Magnus Oct 15 #60
They also said he did "something he rarely does at rallies"... llmart Oct 15 #79
"The FAKE NEWS media said I'm outta shape..." Montauk6 Oct 15 #61
They say I'm a great interpretive dancer. jmbar2 Oct 15 #63
Did some cabal of billionaires kidnap Mr Trump and give him a lobotomy? malthaussen Oct 15 #64
How long will it be "Weekend at Bernie's" at the White House GopherGal Oct 15 #72
mahatma, slightlv Oct 15 #69
Must have been some pretty good reefer. Or maybe it was ecstasy. ? msfiddlestix Oct 15 #71
How can VonShitzInPantz be tied with Harris at 48%? (NBC poll) red dog 1 Oct 15 #73
I wonder whether Steven Cheung took his political mouthpiece lessons Ocelot II Oct 15 #78
"Trump stood onstage in his oversize suit and bright red tie, swaying back and forth" Dave Bowman Oct 15 #80
Getting stranded in the Coachella desert almost sounds preferable to this weird lock-in. Beartracks Oct 15 #82
Allow me to explain the utter stupidity of Chump FakeNoose Oct 15 #84
One reporter called it: Trump is sundowning dlk Oct 15 #85
Every day he does something even more batshitcrazy. twodogsbarking Oct 15 #86
Everyone was looking at him so all was well. mahina Oct 15 #87
He Bop! Zorro Oct 15 #88
After Lunch is served at LPBBEAR Oct 16 #89
If I didn't know better (that he is suffering mental decline), then I would think the "stable genius" was setting up an LaMouffette Oct 16 #90

msfiddlestix

(7,803 posts)
70. Right, ,my take on it as well. I'd say that reminds me of myself when I'm ripped.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 03:12 PM
Oct 15

But I'm not running for President or any office for that matter.

littlemissmartypants

(25,443 posts)
4. Psychopath says:
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 03:29 AM
Oct 15
Trump then resumed. Minutes later, another attendee needed medical attention. Trump stopped again: “Take your time, doctor.” “Ave Maria” began to play again. Trump then quipped to the crowd: “Would anybody else like to faint? Please raise your hand. Let’s do it now.”

COL Mustard

(6,881 posts)
16. Are they just crisis actors? Designed to get him out of having to answer questions?
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 05:37 AM
Oct 15

Hey, I'm just asking questions here.

littlemissmartypants

(25,443 posts)
17. Not a term I'd think I'd use. ...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 06:06 AM
Oct 15

It is associated with a not so persuasive and pristine history. Better suited for a conspiracy theory discussion.

He has substandard preparation and provisions for his rallies. The people are the least of his concerns.

For the psychopath to love is to hurt. Therefore, he's incapable of compassion and motivated by inflicting pain on others.

They are victims, imo. Idiots but also there for him to abuse. Some people who would literally die for someone who doesn't care if they live or die.

The callousness of the comment is what struck me. The attendees are more things than human in his mind.

I really shouldn't have been surprised. But he just outdoes himself in his debasement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_actor
Crisis actor
...Snip...
In the United States, the term has been used by conspiracy theorists who claim that some mass shootings and other terror events are staged for the advancement of various political objectives.[7] Conspiracy theorists' use of the term is thought to have originated in 2012, when a blog post by former professor and conspiracy theorist James Tracy suggested that the government could have hired an acting agency named Visionbox to help stage the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
Snip...
[12]


❤️pants

Upthevibe

(9,085 posts)
59. COL Mustard..........
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 11:19 AM
Oct 15

In 2020 they advertised on Craigs list for "actors" and were paying. I saw it with my own eyes. I don't know about this time....

littlemissmartypants

(25,443 posts)
58. Notice he is...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 11:05 AM
Oct 15

Also using another dead musical artist's song on his play list, Sinéad O'Connor.

I wouldn't be surprised if his campaign team doesn't sit at the planning meetings trying to think up dead musicians who they think won't be able to sue. That's how twisted plus stupid they are.

Thomas Hurt

(13,925 posts)
81. Crossed my mind he was pissed that their medical issue interrupted his "me" fest...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:59 PM
Oct 15

so he was going to make everyone suffer and deprive them of his greatness and godlike oratory.

brush

(57,459 posts)
6. Paywall and the free gift article posted by a reader requires subscription info. I don't want to do that.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 03:46 AM
Oct 15

Is there any way to see the video without all the runaround?

From the description of him bopping for thirty minutes to the music, my God, the man is totally gone yet maga ts will still vote for the rapidly declining convict.

chia

(2,369 posts)
7. Wapo didn't used to require that for gift articles. Here's a workaround if you have apple's latest update:
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:05 AM
Oct 15

When you click on the new read icon in the address bar, you can select "hide distracting items" in the drop-down menu.

Click on the part of the page that tells you that you have to sign in to get the gift article, and it will disintegrate before your eyes, leaving you just the article. Click "done" at the top of the page.

I was able to access the article and video without having to sign in.

Also works on annoying ads that block content.

Great new feature of the latest update for MacBook and iPhone.

AllyCat

(17,093 posts)
14. I have an email account through DuckDuckGo. It's a burner account
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 05:23 AM
Oct 15

It doesn’t link to me using their privacy settings. If I ever get a real communication, DDG contacts my actual email for my review.

True Dough

(20,203 posts)
27. The entire video can be found here, brush
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:20 AM
Oct 15

Not that I'd encourage anyone to watch the full-length madness, but the choice is yours.

llmart

(16,331 posts)
32. Thanks but...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:30 AM
Oct 15

I tried and could only make it through 2 minutes. I got to the point where they started playing Ave Maria and the crowd , or rather cult, chanted USA USA and my mind couldn't process the stupidity of it all.

True Dough

(20,203 posts)
43. I understand completely
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 09:55 AM
Oct 15

Lots of people leave those rallies early. Imagine sticking it out for a couple of hours of that crap? Too far gone!

littlemissmartypants

(25,443 posts)
41. Not the link I posted. ...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 09:46 AM
Oct 15

It's likely that you were targeted with an interstitial ad. You can click out of those.

Also, here are the links to the archive buttons:


https://archive.ph/
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It takes a 'snapshot' of a webpage that will always be online even if the original page disappears.
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https://www.archivebuttons.com/
All of the paywall removers in one place
Simply enter the URL of the article and click the archive buttons to remove any paywall.


If you don't find it there, you can archive it for yourself. Pay walls are not much of a concern anymore because of all of the work arounds we can access that in addition to gift links eliminate barriers to accessing the information.

Put the archive link in your favorites. It's really handy. I've also mailed the information to you.

❤️

Botany

(72,450 posts)
37. Trump has 3 "dance moves"
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:56 AM
Oct 15

The rock em sock em robots upper cut fist pump

The invisible accordion

The point at an audience member, shit eating grin, and then swaying back and forth

All of the above moves can be done with his feet stuck in cement act.

Doodley

(10,348 posts)
10. Normally a man with this level of dementia would have his car keys take away,, but Trump could be getting the
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:21 AM
Oct 15

keys to the Whitehouse and the nuclear codes.

Walleye

(35,558 posts)
21. This morning's network news shows are totally sane washing the incident
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 06:11 AM
Oct 15

One commentator said, Trump seem to enjoy the music and the crowd liked it. Swear to God like it was totally normal. Their big news is the polls, of course

Ursus Arctos

(48 posts)
26. Yup
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:07 AM
Oct 15

From a NYT article: "Mr. Trump’s crowd cheered in approval, an indication of how his supporters flock to his rallies to be in his presence as much as to hear him make political points with which they are intimately familiar.
The playlist session was a glimpse of the private version of Mr. Trump seen more often at Mar-a-Lago, his residence and club in Palm Beach, Fla., than at political events."

llmart

(16,331 posts)
30. I noticed that also.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:19 AM
Oct 15

Turned it off immediately afterwards. Our media is nothing but a joke any more.

AdamGG

(1,483 posts)
74. I wonder if he's trying to show
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:22 PM
Oct 15

that he's ahead and doesn't need to worry. I wonder if Mussolini, Gaddafi and other dictators had episodes like this. If he were to get re-elected, his first term would seem like a combination of Washington & Lincoln compared to the second - and the first term was fascist unhinged.

Baitball Blogger

(47,997 posts)
34. And the band played on.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:39 AM
Oct 15

Isn't this what his next administration is going to look like?

The U.S. is going to be going down like the Titanic, and Trump will be bopping to the music.

Mz Pip

(27,889 posts)
44. Wa Po changed its headline
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:03 AM
Oct 15

At first it said “bizarre” then they rewrote it to “unusual.”

Nearly every comment to the article called them on it or at least saw through it and saw it for what it was - a sundowning old man who has no business being president.

kimbutgar

(23,240 posts)
48. I flipped over to CSPAN looking for VP Harris
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:35 AM
Oct 15

And saw this weird rally. Kristi the puppy killer looked so uncomfortable and awkward. And playing Ave Maria was such an insult. I don’t think I can ever hear it again and not see the grotesque orange monster swaying like he could give a $hit in my mind. And insulting one of the attendees that fainted and mocked him weight.

One is a special kind of stupid to still support this man. But at the rate he’s going I see him imploding between Noem and Election Day on live tv!

JohnnyRingo

(19,307 posts)
52. Love to know what artists' honor he sullied for this one.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:45 AM
Oct 15

I'm sure YMCA because he knows all the moves, but what others does he think promotes his brand?
I know he's not a music lover, and only plays songs suggested by his handlers. Like "Eye Of The Tiger".

Zambero

(9,755 posts)
53. A whole new twist on "Facing the Music"
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:48 AM
Oct 15

From the prespective of the captive audience. It must be a daunting task for SNL's skit writers to pick and choose between the non-stop litany of verbal train wrecks and unforced displays of cognitive breakdown.

BattleRow

(1,190 posts)
75. The Broadway musical "The Music Man",
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:46 PM
Oct 15

later a Hollywood film,was about a flim flam con man.

Far more entertaining than THIS emBARE ass ing exhibition.

Javaman

(63,088 posts)
54. people with dementia usually enjoy music, it connects them to memories and the moment. that's how it was with my mom.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:50 AM
Oct 15

the orange asshole is around the bend

Quanto Magnus

(1,008 posts)
60. I caught a bit on ABC news this morning
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 11:29 AM
Oct 15

the talking heads were marveling at the variety of music in the list.... Totally ignoring the fact that it was a town hall and DonOLD was supposed to be answering questions.

llmart

(16,331 posts)
79. They also said he did "something he rarely does at rallies"...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:56 PM
Oct 15

that he "went down into the crowd and shook hands with some of his supporters". From the Washington Post article and the video it shows he only shook hands with those that were on stage with him.

Sane washing by ABC. That term is so appropriate these days.

Montauk6

(8,607 posts)
61. "The FAKE NEWS media said I'm outta shape..."
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 11:31 AM
Oct 15
"I danced non-stop for a WHOLE HOUR, and it was tremendous, NO-ONE'S EVER danced that long, and I didn't even break a sweat. Ka-MA-la can't dance, I'm a great dancer. I'm the greatest dancer who's ever lived, it's true. MEE-YINS and MEE-YINS of people come to my rallies to hear the GREATEST speeches and the even GREATEST routines!"

jmbar2

(6,085 posts)
63. They say I'm a great interpretive dancer.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 11:53 AM
Oct 15

Everyone knows it.

I know everything about interpretive dance.

I can interpretive dance like nothing anyone has ever seen before.

malthaussen

(17,670 posts)
64. Did some cabal of billionaires kidnap Mr Trump and give him a lobotomy?
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 01:15 PM
Oct 15

Seriously, the speed with which his derangement has worsened as the year has progressed is alarming. My former roommate had a rapid descent into la-la land himself back in '20, fine in May and incoherent in September. And dead by December. DJT seems to me (an uneducated layman, to be sure) to be in much the same case.

Of course his handlers and the voters don't care. So long as they can prop him up enough to get the votes, they'll ignore things like this. But I cannot believe they don't have some plan to retire him suddenly if he actually wins this thing.

-- Mal

GopherGal

(2,400 posts)
72. How long will it be "Weekend at Bernie's" at the White House
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 03:15 PM
Oct 15

until they get the Fanta Menace out of there and move Peter Thiel's protege into office?

slightlv

(4,318 posts)
69. mahatma,
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 02:55 PM
Oct 15

his kids and other family members obviously don't care enough about him to risk an intervention with him. He'd probably immediately call his lawyer and disinherit everyone involved, they reason. To that family, except maybe Mary Trump, money is more important than blood... unless the blood leads to money.

With hubs having such issues now, and my health going downhill, in some ways, I feel pity for him that there's no one who can take him in hand and do what's right for him... AND the country. His maga cult is just like his family. They're expecting things.. changes to their point of view... a dictatorship where they're on the upper end of the power scale (ha!). They're using him in his condition just as much as his kids are.

Shame on T for not having ever cultivated a sense of responsibility and reason that he could draw on in these last mental days, and absolute Shame on his family for parading him around on stage in his condition. He's a total embarrassment. I at least make sure my hubby is dressed correctly when we go out. And I monitor him and he accepts my help.

SHAME SHAME SHAME on that family.

Ocelot II

(120,782 posts)
78. I wonder whether Steven Cheung took his political mouthpiece lessons
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:53 PM
Oct 15

from Muhammad Saeed Al-Sahhaf, a/k/a Baghdad Bob.

Dave Bowman

(3,584 posts)
80. "Trump stood onstage in his oversize suit and bright red tie, swaying back and forth"
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:57 PM
Oct 15

The image that came to mind while reading this was one of a beached whale, for some reason.

Beartracks

(13,562 posts)
82. Getting stranded in the Coachella desert almost sounds preferable to this weird lock-in.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 06:29 PM
Oct 15

=====================

FakeNoose

(35,634 posts)
84. Allow me to explain the utter stupidity of Chump
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:23 PM
Oct 15

He plays a recording of "Ave Maria" sung by Pavarotti and pretends to sway, etc. There's only one problem with this ... "Ave Maria" especially when it's sung in Latin, is a Catholic prayer. Only Catholics say or sing this prayer ... also known as the "Hail Mary" in English. Most Evangelicals (as well as other Protestants) hate this prayer as much as they hate Catholics.

I'll bet a lot of the audience were probably offending and steaming that Chump played this music. I wonder how many got up and walked out?

LPBBEAR

(352 posts)
89. After Lunch is served at
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 03:32 AM
Oct 16

Blissful Valleys Senior Center please stick around for the afternoon music series with "Swing and Sway with DJ T".

LaMouffette

(2,263 posts)
90. If I didn't know better (that he is suffering mental decline), then I would think the "stable genius" was setting up an
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 07:09 AM
Oct 16

insanity defense for his multiple court cases.

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