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BumRushDaShow

(142,071 posts)
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 09:16 PM Sunday

Dr. Deborah Birx says she is "excited" for data-driven discussions in RFK Jr.'s confirmation hearings

Source: CBS News

November 17, 2024 / 3:27 PM EST


Dr. Deborah Birx, former White House Coronavirus response coordinator, said Sunday she is "excited" for the data on key health issues that will surface in Senate confirmation hearings for Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., President-elect Donald Trump's controversial pick for Health and Human secretary who has spread false information on vaccines and autism.

"I'm actually excited that in a Senate hearing he would bring forward his data and the questions that come from the senators would bring forth their data," Birx said on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan." "What I know for sure is he's a very smart man who can bring his data and his evidence base forward, and we can have a discussion that many Americans believe already is a problem."

President-elect Donald Trump announced Thursday in a social media post that he'll nominate Kennedy to oversee the Health and Human Services Department, which encompasses multiple agencies and has a $1 trillion budget. The position has to be approved by the Senate, which, come January, will be controlled by Republicans, which could make the nomination process easier but is not a guarantee.

"I am thrilled to announce Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as The United States Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS)," Trump wrote in a social media post last week. He said Americans have been "crushed by the industrial food complex and drug companies who have engaged in deception, misinformation, and disinformation" about public health, and Kennedy would "Make America Great and Healthy Again!" At an October rally, Trump promised to let Kennedy "go wild" on health issues.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/deborah-birx-rfk-jr-confirmation-hearings-face-the-nation/





(I suppose she angling for a job in there again... the laugh for the night)
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Dr. Deborah Birx says she is "excited" for data-driven discussions in RFK Jr.'s confirmation hearings (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sunday OP
I'm having a hard time BOSSHOG Sunday #1
She proved herself to be a Trump sycophant during COVID. AloeVera Sunday #3
That's how I read it, too. yardwork 13 hrs ago #32
Is she Traildogbob Sunday #2
Indeed she is.... CurtEastPoint Sunday #8
Well damn Traildogbob Sunday #9
He always says he has been shown the data. He has no data. Klarkashton Sunday #4
He's not a physician. He's not a scientist. He's not a nutritionist. TexasBushwhacker 15 hrs ago #28
Maybe she can lend him a scarf for the hearing (if there is one). rsdsharp Sunday #5
How does she know "he is a very smart man" and bring necessary data to JohnSJ Sunday #6
She doesn't think he is smart, nor does she think.... reACTIONary 19 hrs ago #20
If you are saying she was being sarcastic I have no idea because I didn't see the interview. JohnSJ 18 hrs ago #21
No, I do not think she was being sarcastic, she was being .... reACTIONary 15 hrs ago #25
Ok, but that strategy sure didn't work for the sociopath, and I JohnSJ 15 hrs ago #26
The confirmation hearings take place in the senate, not the house... reACTIONary 15 hrs ago #27
Thank-you. They may not be as batshit crazy but with the likes of graham, cruz hawley, turberville, etc. While I think JohnSJ 14 hrs ago #29
Is her scarf too tight and cutting off the oxygen supply... 3catwoman3 Sunday #7
This kind of shit is so offensive! PortTack Sunday #10
Light up the ass, beaming out of her head, calling her people to come bring her home. Solly Mack Sunday #11
Dear Dr. Birx, You were standing moniss Sunday #12
No surprise with this one.... FarPoint Yesterday #13
Clearly she's just another unindicted co-conspirator at this point. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #14
Normalizing crazy Pototan Yesterday #15
She thinks the hearing is going to be about the effing DATA??? Grins Yesterday #16
So this woman is STILL stuck on stupid?? travelingthrulife 21 hrs ago #17
Another one trying to stay out of the gulag??? Vinca 20 hrs ago #18
I think she is being smart and very strategic.... reACTIONary 19 hrs ago #19
Where were all those smart moves when she stood along side tsf and did speak up? She can just FRO PortTack 18 hrs ago #22
I don't know, what I do know is... reACTIONary 16 hrs ago #24
would agree most of the time..but she was particularly neglectful of her position in his first term. I do not trust her! PortTack 13 hrs ago #31
Is it really all that difficult to figure out? hamsterjill 17 hrs ago #23
She's setting him up w/expectation that facts, data, and tough questions expose him. tableturner 13 hrs ago #30

BOSSHOG

(39,811 posts)
1. I'm having a hard time
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 09:21 PM
Sunday

Figuring out her position based on that interview. Trump made her miserable with his nonsense. She almost sounds mocking of Kennedy. Bring your stuff and we can have a discussion? Many Americans already believe is a problem?

AloeVera

(1,920 posts)
3. She proved herself to be a Trump sycophant during COVID.
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 09:29 PM
Sunday

She went along with him far too much.

I don't think it's mocking she's doing here. She is already kow-towing to Kennedy. Or at least going-along-to-get-along. No surprise.

Traildogbob

(9,948 posts)
9. Well damn
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 10:07 PM
Sunday

That’s not so reassuring. We have seen how she will speak up while shit is being spewed. Who can forget that look when her boss was talking bleach and light insertion!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,665 posts)
28. He's not a physician. He's not a scientist. He's not a nutritionist.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:18 PM
15 hrs ago

He's an attorney and a member of a legendary family. He has a right to his opinion, as we all do, but he is just as UNQUALIFIED as Trump's other picks.

rsdsharp

(10,114 posts)
5. Maybe she can lend him a scarf for the hearing (if there is one).
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 09:32 PM
Sunday

And she can give him advice on how to look like you want to disappear when the orange asshole starts talking about inoculations using bleach.

JohnSJ

(96,476 posts)
6. How does she know "he is a very smart man" and bring necessary data to
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 09:36 PM
Sunday

substantiate his claims?

His autism link with vaccines was widely discredited, and his inane remarks about fluoride has been also.

He isn’t a scientist, he is a conspiracy crack pop who wrote a hate filled book about Dr. Fauci that prompted death threats against Dr. Fauci and his family.

He is a low life scum, but there is no doubt the worthless excuse we call the media will give legitimacy to this kook.

Fortunately I don’t participate as a spectator in the media circus.

reACTIONary

(6,007 posts)
20. She doesn't think he is smart, nor does she think....
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:22 AM
19 hrs ago

.... he can substantiate his claims. She knows that if she just calls him an idiot, she will shut down those who might otherwise listen.

She is showing confidence in a fair fight, which is the right approach.

JohnSJ

(96,476 posts)
21. If you are saying she was being sarcastic I have no idea because I didn't see the interview.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:40 AM
18 hrs ago

Showing confidence in a "fair fight", won't cut it.

What it will end up doing is give legitimacy to anti-vaccine, conspiracy nuts, and anti-science purveyors.

They will gish gallop with uncredible data and sources, and I sure wouldn't count on much push back if there are congressional hearings, though the sociopath may try to get his appointments when Congress is on recess.








reACTIONary

(6,007 posts)
25. No, I do not think she was being sarcastic, she was being ....
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:35 PM
15 hrs ago

.... strategic. She was setting the expectation that there would, or should be, a hearing based on scientific facts. At this point, that is the best way forward. Maybe we can keep K from being confirmed, and maybe not. But denunciations and out-of-hand dismissals will not.

If we can't stop his appointment, at least we can set the stage for a good, solid "We told you so".

JohnSJ

(96,476 posts)
26. Ok, but that strategy sure didn't work for the sociopath, and I
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:47 PM
15 hrs ago

don’t think it will work in the republican controlled house, but we will see.

reACTIONary

(6,007 posts)
27. The confirmation hearings take place in the senate, not the house...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:18 PM
15 hrs ago

.... The repubs have a majority, but not a decisive majority. The senate is not as bat shit crazy as is the house. We would have to get something like five repubs to turn traitor.

No reason to be optimistic, but maybe reason enough to be hopeful.

JohnSJ

(96,476 posts)
29. Thank-you. They may not be as batshit crazy but with the likes of graham, cruz hawley, turberville, etc. While I think
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:38 PM
14 hrs ago

there are 5 Senate republicans who won't drink the kool aide, I am not so sure. Thune is more a "traditional" republican as opposed to MAGAs, but that was also how lindsey graham was viewed by some, before he became full MAGA.

That being said, I would like to think there is a chance that completely unhinged nominees would be rejected, but I also think there is a real chance the sociopath may try a backdoor recess appointments.







moniss

(5,655 posts)
12. Dear Dr. Birx, You were standing
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 11:52 PM
Sunday

right there and allowed a madman to knowingly disseminate false information that endangered, caused illness and took the lives of people in the many thousands. A person of integrity would have spoken up, spoken out and as a last resort resigned rather than to stand there silently, as you did, which allowed people to use your silence as indication of endorsement of that false information. Dr. Birx I don't give a f**k what you look forward to, your opinion on anything or whether you think the American people should care about you or what you have to say in any way shape or form. Dear Dr. Birx at long last it would be the best thing you could do to just STFU and go away somewhere and try to live with the fact that when it came time that you were called upon to "do no harm" you were a complete and utter failure.

Pototan

(2,011 posts)
15. Normalizing crazy
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 02:07 AM
Yesterday

I cannot recommend this OP because it gives visibility to dangerous misinformation. I know this is an article from a reputable news agency. However, that's my point.

reACTIONary

(6,007 posts)
19. I think she is being smart and very strategic....
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:18 AM
19 hrs ago

.... She is presenting herself as being open minded and willing to listen - with the proviso that the discussion is based on facts, both what he presents, and what he is confronted with during questioning.

She KNOWS he won't win that discussion!

If she just called him a know-nothing idiot, she would have immediately cast her (and our) opposition as knee-jerk obstructionism. It would have turned off those who might be persuaded and predisposed them against listening at all.

She made a smart move.

reACTIONary

(6,007 posts)
24. I don't know, what I do know is...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:26 PM
16 hrs ago

... that in the current context, the approach that she has taken is the right approach to obtain the best possible outcomes. Denunciations and out-of-hand dismissals would be ineffective.

Telling people "fuck off" may be personally satisfying, but it won't move us in the right direction.

PortTack

(34,628 posts)
31. would agree most of the time..but she was particularly neglectful of her position in his first term. I do not trust her!
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 02:59 PM
13 hrs ago

So ya she can just go away..or FO!

hamsterjill

(15,503 posts)
23. Is it really all that difficult to figure out?
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:00 AM
17 hrs ago

She’s a spineless submissive who went along with Trump before and will do so again if needed.

Let’s not muddy the waters here. Keep your eye on the ball and let’s keep it straight who the “good guys” are and who the “bad guys” are.

She’s not one of the good ones.

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