Trump confirms plan to declare national emergency, use military for mass deportations

[groundloop]

Source: ABC News

President-elect Donald Trump on Monday confirmed he would declare a national emergency to carry out his campaign promise of mass deportations of migrants living in the U.S. without legal permission.

Overnight, Trump responded to a social media post from Judicial Watch’s Tom Fitton, who said earlier this month there are reports the incoming administration is preparing such a declaration and to use "military assets" to deport the migrants.

“TRUE!!!” Trump wrote.

[.....]

"On Day 1, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history to get the criminals out," he said during a rally at Madison Square Garden in the closing days of the presidential race. "I will rescue every city and town that has been invaded and conquered, and we will put these vicious and bloodthirsty criminals in jail, then kick them the hell out of our country as fast as possible."

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-confirms-plan-declare-national-emergency-military-mass/story?id=115963448

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. "Dictator on day one" . . . . . nt

[Blue_Tires]

4. "OH YOU KNOW TRUMP DOESN'T REALLY MEAN THAT; HE'S SPEAKING IN METAPHORS!!"

I swear if I had a nickel for every time someone responded to me with that line...

[NotHardly]

49. This does not bode well for anyone...

After they finish up on deportations, they'll start building the camps for women and girls they want to further control...MMW

[patphil]

60. And we all know how many "dictators on day one" ever relinquished dictatorial power.

Zero.
The only way a dictator every lets go of absolute power is by force, or death.
We have Trump as president on January 20th, until the day he dies. And then, it's up to the next in line to carry on as dictator unless there is a "discussion" about who that next in line person is.
We are witnessing the death of the US Constitutional Democratic Republic.
It's being done by the enemies within, with a little help from the enemies without.
The real enemy here is the millions of brain dead zombie Maga's who put him in office.
These are the anti-woke, who would rather not think; who want someone to tell them what to think, what to say, what to do, how to act, how to feel, and who to hate.
Perfect mindless human bullets that the Republicans fired at the heart of the Republic.

[greatauntoftriplets]

2. Better a national emergency to get rid of drumpf.

He'll do more damage to the country than any migrant.

[Sequoia]

3. But not those from England or Western Europe?

[Blue_Tires]

5. Or South Africa??

[LiberalArkie]

33. White ones from Africa are fine..

All caucasians are A-OK..

[Blue_Tires]

39. I have to remind myself

that Melon Husk has OPENLY admitted that he's in the United States illegally and nobody gives a shit because he's the right skin color.... Same goes for the Donnie's past two trophy wives.

[LiberalArkie]

43. The Asians and Indians will need to remember their place as the U.S. might be turning the way back machine

on full. The fountains in segregated areas were "White" and colored. White meant white. I remember a Chinese laundry owner had to drink from the Colored fountain or be arrested.

[AkFemDem]

63. Not the engineers and computer geniuses

He likes them. They make him money.

[LiberalArkie]

75. Not necessarily. They have no problem at all sending them back where they came from and do a

"work from home". It costs them a lot less to pay them Indian or Pakistani wages than U.S. wages.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

81. In S. Africa, "Asian" was one of four classes of people

1. White, which included rich Japanese.
   
2. Asian, meaning Indians (subcontinent)
   
3. Coloured, meaning mixed race
   
4. African
   
   
   
   

[LiberalArkie]

93. It was in the U.S. also. Oh and Indian (meaning those redskins). At least in Arkanstan

[cannabis_flower]

52. Except probably

White people who only speak Spanish.

[AllaN01Bear]

78. i was just thinking about this .

deport him .

[republianmushroom]

6. 45 months and counting

[jmowreader]

7. You know what will happen

“You look Mexican. Out you go!”

“My great-grandfather was born in Cleveland and so was everyone else in my family. Dude, I don’t even like Mexican food!”

“Nope. You look like an illegal immigrant so out you go.”

[groundloop]

9. There will be a nationwide phone hotline for reporting "illegals"......

I always wondered how Germany could allow a madman to take power and ruin their country. It doesn't seem so far fetched anymore.

[Miguelito Loveless]

17. This time,

Hitler has massive databases and nuclear weapons.

[jmowreader]

32. Which could be even more abusive

Your neighbor’s kids play soccer with their friends in the back yard and you’re tired of listening to it? “Hello Trump Department of Making America Pure Again? A family of illegals lives next to me. Can you come deport them? Thanks.”

[IbogaProject]

53. Same as is happening

Hitler was funded by Harriman Brothers, via Prescott Bush. Foreign money funded Hitler which was GOP and they helped launder some of the Nazi supporters loot after WW2.

[regnaD kciN]

108. Don't even mention IBM...

...which was instrumental in developing a system for keeping track of Jews and how to hunt them down.

[rambler_american]

79. And if you piss your neighbor off

he might just report you as a subversive. Novody is safe.

[VMA131Marine]

105. Germany had the Great Depression to deal with

Eggs are just a bit more expensive here …

[Magoo48]

30. The more hubris they show off, the more inept they prove to be, the better off our democracy.

All this shit they are starting will open huge holes where we can drive in the wedges of resistance.

[regnaD kciN]

111. Wishful thinking...

Once you have the sort of power wielded by the White House, and no scruples about using it, all the wedges of resistance in the world will only give us a new crop of martyrs.

Seriously, don't you think that Trump will respond to the first provocation, even if it means a peaceful march supporting the undocumented in a west coast city, with Tienanmen Square levels of brutality? Leave enough dead bodies for everyone to see, and most people will just slink away into silence. (For reference, look at how the antiwar movement utterly crumbled after Kent State.) And that will be the end of that.

[louis-t]

51. One of the biggest maga I know is Mexican.

He was born here but his father is from Mexico. He loves to fight online and is on his 3rd name on fb. He keeps getting kicked off.

[regnaD kciN]

109. Wait until Trump issues his executive order to ban "birthright citizenship"...

[OldBaldy1701E]

104. Oh don't worry about that just yet.

There are far too many LGTBQ people, far too many political and social enemies, and far too many business competitors to lock up/deport before Miller's jackboots get to deporting people because they 'look' foreign.

[regnaD kciN]

107. I've been telling my wife...

...who is a citizen from birth, with a father who was a citizen and a mother who was a legal resident from South America, that she better make sure to have a copy of her U.S. passport and U.S. birth certificate on her anytime she goes out in public.

And I'm not even confident that will be enough.

[Eureka]

8. How will the US force other countries to accept these deportations?

I'm no expert in various treaties and agreements that may exist, but I don't understand how these "mass deportations" are supposed to work.....

The country these people are supposedly being deported to will need to accept the people back, and what if they don't?

Does the US Military invade Mexico and just dump them? I'm pretty sure the US invading a neighbor will not be welcomed by the rest of the world.

By rights Mexico doesn't need to accept anyone from (for example) Bolivia, so does the US need to invade Bolivia as well?

What if these people don't have passports? How is the country of origin ascertained or proven? I can't just turn up to my country of origin and say "I'm here, let me in!" without documentation.

I wouldn't be surprised if the incoming regime does something really stupid and for sure they aren't about respecting norms or protocol, but I can't see how this is anything except futile bluster because this can't be solved unilaterally without becoming the worlds largest international pariah.

If anyone can explain potential mechanisms I'd be super appreciative.

[groundloop]

10. My guess.... if tRUMP can't deport people they'll be housed in concentration camps

er, ahh, temporary housing.

The private prison industry is already salivating at all the money they'll make.

[Eureka]

22. I guess this is "no pricetag" part of the solution. nt

[alexjohn1965]

35. They will also

They'll also put them to work in the fields as prison labor picking all the produce.

[regnaD kciN]

112. ...until they can come up with "the final solution to the immigrant question."

Just declare them an invading force. Easy peasy.

[Blackjackdavey]

15. Potential mechanisms?

Surely you jest, there will be few, if any deportations. They will be rounded up and placed in camps. There they will stay. Eventually, houseless folks will join them. Then we will go back to where we started as local business people contract with the local "resettlement camp" to get the crops picked and the manual labor done. MAGA!

[Eureka]

23. Oh, slavery!

Silly me, I never thought of that. I assume the Maggats will be fine with it, very cost effective.

[Miguelito Loveless]

19. They will take them back

or ELSE. What the rest of the world thinks is no longer germane. At best, countries refusing take back its "citizens" will face economic sanctions, at worst, military invasion/bombing. Remember, 45 wanted to launch missiles against Mexico last time. This time, all the people who said "no" will be replaced with people who will obey without question.

[Eureka]

27. So a new war for the history books... they'll have to start working on the branding

If they go for "dump them all in Mexico" I guess it would be the "North American War", but so many brand expansion opportunities into "Central" and "South".

Either way, international pariah it is I guess.

[Hope22]

44. Some will die in custody.

He’s probably itching to dig his first mass grave. I’m sorry I sound extreme ……well there is nothing more extreme thanTSF,

[Eureka]

55. Well I suppose he will at least have the labor force to wield the shovels nt.

[Hope22]

73. It's crazy that we have to imagine these things.

And devastatingly sad.

[Hope22]

41. He will sell the marketable ones.

He practiced during his first term. Betsy DeVos and the Foster Care group….. he never misses a chance for coin. Many of these people have homes and assets……he said he was taking them all. He’ll clean them out but we are all next in line! How many threat’s until they take this sick sole away!

[Dan]

65. THIS +1

[AkFemDem]

66. We already do this all the time-

Our Coast Guard drops off boatloads of Haitian, Cuban, and Mexican migrants regularly back in their countries of origin. Not sure how they establish its fine to drop them wherever they drop them since surely many/most dont have passports, but it's pretty normal. I imagine such systems are not set in place for the scale of numbers that might result from new roundups landside, but I guess the precedence is there.

[Eureka]

70. Interesting, thanks..... in pondering your response I had a nose around and found this article

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/recalcitrant-uncooperative-countries-refuse-deportation

that goes into some depth about how these things are treated and goes someway towards a comparison of the US and EU in how they each deal with the problem.

It's quite murky, but I suspect there will be some political maneuvering (eg visa sanctions as discussed in the article), pig headed bullying and a decent amount of long term detention, dehumanisation, death and suffering (totally on brand for the Trump Party and Magats). And on top of all of that, I suspect it will be lots of propaganda about how successful they are while lining the pockets of the rich and torturing the less fortunate.

[hadEnuf]

72. It may all just end at the camps.

[PSPS]

99. "accept the people back"

The round up is intended to include brown people who were born here, so there's no "where" that they can "go back to" outside the country. Herr Miller said as much in one of his RW media circle-jerks recently. "America is for Americans!! Not those who have no part in our American culture or values."

[SupportSanity]

11. Biden needs to call a preemptive emergency

If he doesn't have the balls to do it, he should step down and let Kamala do it.

Do it now while we still can.

[brakester]

91. Yes!

When is President Biden going to save our country (using his presidential immunity) from this meddlesome perv?

[SupportSanity]

102. or he should step down and let Kamala do it!

[Vinca]

12. Time to lay in plenty of popcorn. This is going to be a clusterfuck of epic proportions.

It's definitely worse than the "Muslim ban" which was his priority during the first reign of terror. It not only will be massively disruptive, it will cause prices to skyrocket.

[PortTack]

76. The Muslim ban failed

[regnaD kciN]

113. Uh...actually, no, it didn't...

It got shot down in the courts time and again -- until it got to SCOTUS, who ruled it constitutional. By then, everyone's attention had moved on to other things.

[sop]

13. Trump will deputize the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Boogaloo Bois, Patriot Front and Atomwaffen Division

to round up immigrants, granting them immunity when they gun down those who won't come peacefully. These nazis have been dreaming of this day for years.

[Miguelito Loveless]

20. You called it.

[Traildogbob]

34. J6rs

That are Pardoned will be hired, paid for by us, and issued all the guns and ammo they ever wet dreamed of. And, they will make damn sure collateral damage will happen to those that cheered their convictions.

[Hope22]

48. Just like Iraq!

No lucrative deal goes down without criminals being busted out of jail. It was pretty effective in Iraq.

[Traildogbob]

50. Russia too

Seems like the trump regime mirrors everything Pootie does. I wonder why?

[Hope22]

82. Wonder, don't wonder! Remember when T crashed through Turkey leaving our bases and everything else behind for Putin.

It was really annoying that no one seemed pissed about it. And Turkey made out as well and it was never clear about the nukes we still had there. I think we have all been slowly desensitized to the absurd actions of this monster. When we say he gives it away it’s the assets of our country. I’m sure he is raking it in behind the scenes. No one would believe it if a book were written with the real story. This reminds me. I need to resupply the emergency alcohol supply at home!😁!

[Traildogbob]

85. The "Wonder" was sarcasm.

We are under Putin rule. About to find out what fucking around does.

[Hope22]

86. I totally understand that!

He probably isn’t going to be happy with Biden’s long range missiles out of Ukraine. Did you see the YouTube video of Ukraines attack yesterday. Advisors helping Putin were holed up in a cruise ship amongst war boats. Definitely made a mess of things. Surreal! Sorry I. Can’t give a better description.

[Traildogbob]

87. Wow, I missed that

Just like Hamas in schools and hospitals. 🍆🥔’s gonna do 🍆🥔ing shit, cowardly.

[erronis]

36. The gun and ammo manufacturers are also looking forward to this.

The "prepping" will reach a fever pitch.

[FakeNoose]

88. How is Chump going to pay the new quasi-military groups?

It's not going to come from US defense funds. Maybe Chump will pay them out of his own pocket?

[sop]

90. Mexico will pay for it.

[people]

14. if this is truly what happens . . .

we are very close to the 3rd r.

[Hekate]

16. The orange monster uses the language of genocide & holocaust

“I will rescue every city and town that has been invaded and conquered, and we will put these vicious and bloodthirsty criminals in jail, then kick them the hell out of our country as fast as possible."

[people]

18. Here's what a CA farmer told ABC's Martha Raddatz

According to the article cited, a CA farmer said this about T's plans:


"If you took away my workforce, you wouldn't eat. If you go into the San Joaquin Valley and you start doing what you're saying, it's over. The country will stop, literally stop because the food system won't move," said Manuel Cunha Jr., the president of the Nisei Farmers League.

[Miguelito Loveless]

21. And for saying that

he just made the list to be deported.

[getagrip_already]

28. Thats a feature, not a bug.....

Why do you think the survivalists have been laying in years worth of food and ammo?

They not only wont care when there is no food, they will rejoice in it because they will have have theirs.

And so will the rich.

Its the poor and the cities that will starve. Riots that will get put down by the military.

Im hoping im wrong.

[erronis]

38. I don't think you are wrong. It is part of the plan - maybe not in the official Project 2025

but well understood by the privileged group.

Surprising that these sentiments haven't made it into the (RW-owned) M$M yet.

[PortTack]

68. The "survivalist" group is very very small, and just as vulnerable...don't kid yourself

[getagrip_already]

103. Really?

Youve never met the homesteading community?

Same thing. Its large.

[Wicked Blue]

24. Maybe President Biden should call a national emergency right now

and have the orange traitor arrested as a traitor.

[Hope22]

89. Or taken into custody for safe keeping! Lol

My guess is that they are watching and listening carefully. In the end I would bet that Biden will be blamed for this and more.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

25. Oh, goodie.

Consumer prices on all domestically produced foods will increase dramatically. And Social Security and Medicare funds will take a huge hit due to lack of incoming funds formerly provided by undocumented workers using bogus SS numbers. Combine that with their loss of Medicare and Food Stamps to fund tax breaks for billionaires, the MAGAts are going to find out just how much it costs to "own the libs." SUCKERS!

[erronis]

40. By the time the economic devastation hits their beer cash the damage will be done

and horrific.

Putin is actually the stable genius. trump is just the sagging old stallion.

[EarthFirst]

26. ...and the consequences of refusal?

Are we just going to start arresting city council members?
Mayors?
Clergy members?
Civil Rights attorneys?

Anyone who stands in their way?

…and then what?

Detention?

Execution?

JFC.

[Easterncedar]

29. Read Celeste Ng's Our Missing Hearts

It is scarily prescient. Everyone should read it.

[Traildogbob]

31. Will they also

Round up and deport those ”illegal Aliens”
Living under the sea, that Boerbert was ranting about at a congressional hearing last week?
Where do you send those illegals, will Space X and the Musty white man sell us rockets to send them home?
Yes, let’s end the department of education and outlaw science. And become a nation of Boebert/MTG brains.
Why I wear a mask still, everywhere. The Smell of Rotting Brains make me projectile vomit.
And that is what I tell the assholes that mention me masking.
“Because your fucking skull meat is rotting and you stink”.
Ya can’t call it brains anymore. It’s just filling up space with meat where a brain should exist. I’m

[Ziggysmom]

37. Is trumpty dumpty gonna put the Rittenhouse shitstain in charge of armed militia round ups?

[GoYouPackersGo]

46. Actually I don't think you need the sarcasm thingy.

Imagine the worst thing you can think of a President doing.

Then imagine something ten times worse. That's what Trump will do.

[Ziggysmom]

64. Sad but true!!!

[LudwigPastorius]

42. You should read this 2019 article from The Atlantic that lays out the scope of presidential emergency powers.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190107021614/https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/01/presidential-emergency-powers/576418/

...the president has access to emergency powers contained in 123 statutory provisions, as recently calculated by the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law, where I work. These laws address a broad range of matters, from military composition to agricultural exports to public contracts. For the most part, the president is free to use any of them; the National Emergencies Act doesn’t require that the powers invoked relate to the nature of the emergency.

This will give you nightmares.

[D. Spaulding]

45. Your papers please.

N/T

[Kablooie]

47. So he will declare martial law on day one.

That's how Hitler took control.
He declared a national emergency, promising it would be temporary, then never released it.
And so America will be run by a dictator for a minimum of 4 years and likely longer if Trump lasts that long.

Trump voters will get exactly what they voted for.
Unfortunately, so will the rest of us too.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

59. You're one of the very few people who understand what's really going on.

But before Hitler could do that, he had to be enabled by Paul von Hindenburg.

There's still time for Trump to be stopped, especially when there's credible evidence that he cheated to win the 2024 presidential election.

[Orrex]

54. So he is ordering us to remove him by any means necessary, in other words.

Well, we knew this day would come.

[hadEnuf]

80. I worry that is what it may come to.

And we are not prepared for that.

[Owens]

56. Then he'll go after Muslims, Asians and LGBTQ people

He's following the Hitler playbook

[Evolve Dammit]

57. Why this criminal lunatic is not incarcerated is a national disgrace

[cannabis_flower]

58. My husband is waiting ...

For his Waiver of Inadmissibility. He entered the US in 1997 illegally. In 1998, he received Temporary Protected Status (TPS). Since he came illegally he can’t adjust his status without a judge granting the waiver. Then he needs to leave the country and return to Honduras to get his marriage visa and enter the country legally to get his status adjusted. We were told it would take 2 years but it was 2 years in August. His lawyer said it might be three years. I hope they don’t cancel his TPS and deport him before his case is resolved.

[J_William_Ryan]

61. "...without legal permission."

Further proof Trump is a fascist thug.

[PortTack]

62. Yes, he will have broad powers...not sure if it will be successful. Remember the muslin ban?

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Mass deportation would cost 167 billion dollars. If you do a search, they all agree on the cost. Where’s that money going to come from?

Hey maga…you want this, start coughing up the money!

[keithbvadu2]

69. Where will he deport them to? Mexico can refuse them at the airports and the border stations.

Will he sneak them across the border?

[PortTack]

74. Exactly...the newly elected FE president of Mexico said Mexicans are welcome, all others are not.

She also said she would start deporting Americans living there. She’s not just giving lip service.

This is gonna blow up in his face wildly

[barbtries]

71. it just never fails

that the worst case is what they do.

this heartbreaking, truly.

[ancianita]

77. Blue governors will have the last word on THAT. SCOTUS won't overrule them in any way, shape or form.

Nor will the military obey illegal orders even if given by the loyalist Sec Def and loyalist lackeys of the Joint Chiefs.

[Hope22]

83. Our real problem is the J6 monsters that will be let loose. .

And all of the uncle papas joining them! I feel like they really want to kill!!!

[ancianita]

84. Grab the go-bags and head to the libraries!

[bluestarone]

92. I'm in your corner about the blue Govenors, BUT i fear

what the military will do. Remember he will install generals that will bow before him.

[ancianita]

94. Ain't gonna happen.The U.S. Military JAG will warn them that if they follow illegal orders they can be court martialed.

... the Judge Advocate General is one of the few positions in the Army explicitly provided for by law in Title 10 of the United States Code, and requiring a distinct appointment. When officers who have already been appointed to another branch of the Army join the JAG Corps, rather than merely transferring branches, they are administratively dismissed and simultaneously recommissioned anew as judge advocates...

The U.S. Army JAG Corps was founded by General George Washington with the appointment of William Tudor as the Judge Advocate General on 29 July 1775.[2] The Army JAG Corps is the oldest of the judge advocate communities in the U.S. armed forces – as well as the oldest law firm in the United States.

The current (forty-second) Judge Advocate General is Lieutenant General Joseph B. Berger III, who was appointed in July 2024.

The almost 2,000 full-time judge advocates and civilian attorneys who serve The Judge Advocate General's Corps comprise the largest group of attorneys who serve the U.S. Army. Several hundred other attorneys practice under the Chief Counsel of the United States Army Corps of Engineers and the Command Counsel of the United States Army Materiel Command.

Judge advocates, legal administrators and military paralegals are deployed throughout the United States and around the world, including Japan, South Korea, Germany, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, and Qatar. They provide legal assistance to soldiers, adjudicate claims against the Army, advise commands on targeting decisions and other aspects of operational law, and assist the command in administering military justice by preparing non-judicial punishment actions, administrative separation actions, and trying criminal cases at court-martial.

In addition to the active component judge advocates, there are approximately 5,000 attorneys who serve in the US Army Reserve and the Army National Guard. Several hundred Reserve and National Guard attorneys were called to active duty to serve in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Judge_Advocate_General%27s_Corps

[bluestarone]

95. Like i said i 100% hope your right.

Look what the retired generals are saying. They HATE the bastard, but they are no longer there. Not disagreeing with you, BUT i can't but fear it. We are in a whole new situation, that America has never in before (how this monster was able to do it is over my head)

[ancianita]

96. Gotta trust in the righteousness of the

Uniform Code of Military Justice. Civilian courts, too.

Just got a text that Chuck Schumer just rolled out the "No Kings Act" in the Senate. A ray of hopehope. Gotta use all the tools we've got in the next 63 days.

[bluestarone]

97. Back at you. TY

Nice to have this site, and friends like you in times like this!!!

[doc03]

98. It won't be long until some get shot, when it happens law enforcement

will cover their ass claiming they were killers, drug dealers, terrorists and gang members. Law enforcement will treat
it as an open season. Families will be broken up, meat and produce
prices will go up causing shortages and inflation. It going to backfire big time.

[maxsolomon]

100. WTF is he talking about? "Conquered"?

Name one "conquered" town. It ain't Middletown Ohio.

[Doodley]

101. Tesla sales would plummet, so Elon better make sure this doesn't happen.

[speak easy]

114. cf. Trump tells his MAGA base to be patriotic

and buy a Tesla.

[regnaD kciN]

106. If you think, when Trump sends in the military, that he's only going to target "illegal immigrants"...

...I have a bridge in Brooklyn Nüremburg you might be interested in buying.

And also, remember: "Bullets are cheaper than deportation. Or internment camps."

[travelingthrulife]

110. What emergency will he make up?