Mexico will not stand US 'invasion' in fight against cartels, president says

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Source: The Guardian

Thu 20 Feb 2025 11.42 EST
Last modified on Thu 20 Feb 2025 12.18 EST


Mexico will never tolerate an “invasion” of its national sovereignty by the United States, Claudia Sheinbaum has warned after Washington designated Mexican cartels as terrorist organizations. “This cannot be an opportunity for the US to invade our sovereignty,” the Mexican president said. “With Mexico, it is collaboration and coordination, never subordination or interventionism, and even less invasion.”

Sheinbaum said her government was not consulted by the United States in its decision to include Mexican cartels on a list of global terrorist organizations, adding that she would propose a constitutional reform aimed at further protecting Mexico’s national sovereignty.

“The Mexican people will under no circumstances accept interventions, intrusions, or any other action from abroad that is detrimental to the integrity, independence or sovereignty of the nation … [including] violations of Mexican territory, whether by land, sea or air,” said Sheinbaum, speaking during her regular morning news conference on Thursday.

Sheinbaum’s comments marked an implicit rebuke for Trump, who has repeatedly claimed that Mexico has enabled a migrant “invasion” of the United States. They also reflected the troubled history between the two allied nations: US forces have invaded Mexico at least 10 times and in 1846 claimed nearly half of the country’s territory for the US.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/20/claudia-sheinbaum-trump-terrorism

[kimbutgar]

1. I think Mexico and Canada should close their borders and not allow any Americans in !

[twodogsbarking]

2. Can you wait until next week.

[slightlv]

11. Please, no!

So many of us are going to need refuges of safety. I'm hoping those two countries won't be as pigheaded and cruel as the U.S.

[Bayard]

3. Seize Mexico!

They have a woman president and don't deserve to be an independent country anyway.

He wants to own the whole damn continent.

[slightlv]

12. Yes, he does!

He wants to own the whole damn continent.

Yes, that's exactly what he wants. If you hear him talk, he talks about the Americas or "America"... never North or South America... and not Central America. That's because he considers it all part of HIS America. Period. Of course, have no idea how he justifies that with his belief in deportation. But then, he's never made sense, anyway.

[Shipwack]

15. I firmly believe this is his plan.

I think that Trump, Putin, and maybe Xi have agreed to split up the world. Trump gets the Americas and Greenland, Putin gets the old USSR territories and then some, and Xi gets a chunk that includes Taiwan.

[ck4829]

4. It's time to support counter-recruitment

[LeftInTX]

5. Avocados will be classed as weapons of mass destruction!

The Problem With Designating Cartels as Terrorist Groups (Foreign Policy Mag)
Trump wants broader powers, but U.S. businesses could suffer.

snips....

Drawing from the Immigration and Nationality Act, an FTO designation freezes all of a group’s assets under the control of U.S. financial institutions, prevents its members from traveling to the United States, and allows their deportation. Perhaps most importantly, it makes it a crime for U.S. citizens and others to knowingly provide material support for the group. Material support means not only weapons and money but also time and the labor of individuals. This clause has allowed the United States to prosecute individuals engaged in the kind of support for an FTO that would not otherwise be illegal, such as planning to travel to Syria to train with the Islamic State or fundraising for a group such as Hezbollah.



Admittedly, the TCO designation does not have quite the same material support clause as an FTO one. But much of the cartels’ activity is already illegal, given the nexus to narcotics, drug trafficking, and other criminal activity. Moreover, support for a TCO is punishable by criminal penalties up to 20 years in prison or $1 million in criminal fines. Violators of the Kingpin Act can face criminal penalties of up to 30 years in prison and/or a $5-10 million fine. The FTO material support clause is broader and offers sweeping investigatory and prosecution authorities. But in the context of cartels, that clause is susceptible to overreach and could have adverse consequences.

The new executive order does not provide any criteria to explain when a TCO will be deemed an FTO. But if major cartels in Mexico and elsewhere are listed, the impact on many U.S. companies and U.S.-Mexico business relations could be considerable. Well before the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas attack on Israel, banks and payment processors such as PayPal avoided doing business in the West Bank, fearing that their services might be used by terrorist groups—and that they would be held liable for any resulting violence. With the new executive order, U.S. businesses must worry that when they work with a business in Mexico, it might have links to cartels, which are deeply embedded in Mexico’s economy. Banks and payment processors that help transfer remittances to Mexico would be vulnerable to prosecution. All this will make U.S. businesses more cautious, especially about new ventures, given the tremendous litigation risk.

A zealous prosecutor could also use the new material support power to prosecute Americans who purchase drugs—or avocados—from designated cartels. Their crime would no longer be limited to possession of narcotics (or pursuit of the best guacamole); it would count as material support for a terrorist organization. It sounds far-fetched, but the United States has aggressively gone after U.S. residents who aided the Islamic State, including prosecuting a woman who provided packets of hot cocoa as well as a small amount of money to a group member. Justice Department officials in past administrations did not usually take such an expansive view, but such an approach is easier to imagine today. Making America’s drug epidemic a terrorism problem will not solve the drug crisis. Instead, it will dramatically increase the number of Americans prosecuted for drug-related offenses—and lengthen prison sentences for those convicted.

https://archive.ph/gDfj5

WalMart and banks will be an accessory to terrorism.
Cuellar must really be looking at a pardon now. That bank he has connections to is affiliated with cartels.
Also, he designates the Gulf Cartel as a terrorist group. Let's rename it Gulf of America Cartel.

[tavernier]

6. Went to eat at a large Mexican restaurant last night.

It was packed to the gills. Seven degrees out, icy roads, Wednesday night. It’s a medium size town but has four Mexican restaurants and all are doing a thriving business.
And oh… have I mentioned that this is in Central Indiana? With a very large mostly white population?

Nobody there seemed to behave like they hated the Mexican staff or their food.

[Dumpy]

7. Didn't Mexico just let in US special forces to train their troops?

I think she is putting a firm stance against the USA but doing stuff behind the scenes, so she is offed by the cartels.

[LeftInTX]

8. We always train their troops. Nothing new.

She's just putting her foot down against any invasion by the US. And rightly so.

One would think training their troops involving training their secret service. Mexico basically has a national guard and not much else. It doesn't have "real militaries" like most European, Middle Eastern and Asian countries.

[C0RI0LANUS]

9. The 201st Squadron of the USAAF during WWII were called the "Aztec Eagles" and they lost pilots in combat.

These Mexican Air Force pilots flew for the USAAF and fought the Japanese in the PTO.

Mexico formally declared war on the Axis Powers in support of the Allies on 22 May 1942, following losses of oil ships in the Gulf of Mexico, most notably the Potrero del Llano and the Faja de Oro, to German submarine attacks. After its declaration of war, Mexico was active in convincing other Latin American states to support the allies.

Source:

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/aztec-eagles-mexican-air-force

[LeftInTX]

10. Cool!

[C0RI0LANUS]

13. How are you today, LeftInTexas? Mexico knows more about the US than we know about them, right?

[JohnnyRingo]

14. Wonder why no other president thought of Mexican air strikes?

Because they weren't fucking drunk with power like this maniac, that's why.
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