JD Vance Warns There's 'Very Strong Evidence' China, Russia Want Greenland

[ificandream]

Source: Newsweek

Vice President JD Vance criticized Denmark on Friday for what he called an "underinvestment" in Greenland, saying there was "very strong evidence" that Russia and China want the island and access to its resources. Vance's remarks at Pituffik Space Base in Greenland come as President Donald Trump advocates for a United States takeover of the island.

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"Our message to Denmark is very simple," Vance said during the visit. "You have not done a good job by the people of Greenland. Denmark has not kept pace in devoting the resources necessary to keep this base, to keep our troops, and in my view to keep the people of Greenland safe from a lot of aggressive incursions from Russia, from China, and from other nations."

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"Why does Greenland matter so much?" Vance said. "We know that Russia and China and other nations are taking an extraordinary interest in Arctic passageways, Arctic naval routes, and in the minerals of the Arctic territories. We need to ensure America is leading in the Arctic."

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-warns-very-strong-evidence-china-russia-want-greenland-2052307

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Nothing like a little fearmongering to show your weakness, Vance. magas are stupid enough to believe it but the smarter people of Greenland sure the hell won't.

[BeyondGeography]

1. The most powerful military on earth (that would be US) has a base there and it's under the NATO umbrella

IOW, Greenland couldn’t be in a better position to be fully secured.

This is all bullshit.

[ificandream]

3. Just like everything Trump is.

[RandySF]

2. Oh here we go.

He’s making a pretext for a military invasion.

[ificandream]

4. I'm not sure he wants a war between the U.S., China and Russia.

[Enter stage left]

5. If there's very strong evidence, show it to us! Prove you're not as big a fucking liar as your slave master is...

Otherwise, shut up and go crawl back up Trumps asshole where you originated from.

Lousy piece of shit!

[BadgerKid]

6. Basically the Roman Empire invasion strategy. Nt

[JoseBalow]

7. "I heard things."

[Salviati]

8. We could set up some sort of mutual defense pact with our most trusted allies

We probably don't need to include all of our worldwide allies, maybe those just in the northwestern hemisphere or something. We could call it something like the "Organization of Trusted Allied Nations" or something.

[Walleye]

28. And make it a treaty approved by the Senate so the president can't undo it

Theoretically.

[Wiz Imp]

36. What allies? Trump has destroyed our relationships with very single former ally.

There is no reason for any former ally to ever trust Trump for even a second.

[delisen]

9. The answer would be for the US to keep NATO strong.

But Trump seems determined to destroy NATO

The reality is Trump wants Greenland in order to weaken Europe and NATO in the face of Russian aggression.

It seems absurd for Vance to make this statement in the face of Trump’s openly pro-Russia, pro-authoritarian stance.

I guess it is someone other than Trump who holds the key that winds up the JD Vance doll.

[Historic NY]

10. Its funny since we have a US Air Force Base there.

its all bullshit and the people of Greenland are pissed.

[DFW]

11. There is even stronger evidence that Trump wants Greenland.

The fact that he’s been saying it for the last eight years kinda gave it away.

[Emrys]

12. If Trump and Vance are really so concerned, they could have talked to Denmark about reopening some of the bases

the US used to have in Greenland:



Before the gruesome twosome went on their wannabe mafiosi badmouthing spree, Denmark would no doubt have been amenable, as it has been in the past. It and Greenland have already had to put up with the hell of a mess US forces left behind when they abandoned their bases the last time, including a subterranean city, Camp Century, with its own nuclear reactor that's slowly starting to surface with the retreat of the Arctic ice. Nothing has been done about cleaning up their crap. This was the Bluie East airbase that was abandoned in 1947. Many rotting buildings contain (well, barely nowadays) asbestos, and some of the rusting barrels potentially contain poisonous chemicals:









Now increasing the US's military presence might well be seen as a sinister and hostile move. Great diplomacy.

[kkmarie]

13. Man we sure do fuck up shit

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Cleaning it all up would be good faith but requires competence to even conceive of it. Deserves own OP & Journalizing.nt

[underpants]

31. I'd seen those barrels in pics but I thought it was sod

Like Greenland had big sod farms. I had no idea that’s what they actually were.

[Irish_Dem]

14. Ww have to invade you to protect you.

[no_hypocrisy]

15. What's to worry about Russia?

TSF and Putin are as thick as thieves. Putin would never do anything to harm this country, its economy, its territorial interests because of his deep and abiding love for TSF. At least, that's what TSF has indicated.

[RazorbackExpat]

44. "I looked the man (Putin) in the eye.

I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy."

-- George W. "Election Thief" Bush

[twodogsbarking]

16. He read it on FB. Evidence.

[ESM]

17. Vance: Clueless and Useful

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Vance is a useful idiot that has no idea what really goes on.

[Paladin]

18. Horseshit, as usual. (nt)

[retiredwelder]

19. Remember

Remember weapons of mass destruction ?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. I had the same thought. Welcome to DU. . . . . nt

[LetMyPeopleVote]

23. Welcome to DU

[travelingthrulife]

20. America won't be leading anywhere anymore.

[truthisfreedom]

24. Being that defenseless little Greenland is located so close to both Russia and China...

I bet we better race right in there and take it over.

[Red Mountain]

25. They're not going to get it

Either.

[murpheeslaw]

26. Where is his suit??

Watched it and was really surprised no FOX reporter asked if he had a suit. Trying to emulate Zelenskyy was a tell that they realize what a real leader acts like.

[underpants]

30. Yeah

[C_U_L8R]

27. So help protect it

Don't fucking threaten it and make like you're going to invade it. What an asshole.

[Walleye]

29. Donald, the Nobel peace prize committee is not gonna like all this saber rattling

[underpants]

32. Make Appropriating Greenland A priority

[brush]

34. What do you mean by that? How's that any difference than taking it over...

what trump and vance are talking about. Wrong choice of words?

[underpants]

38. MAGA

[brush]

40. Explain pls or we'll assume you're rooting for trump.

[underpants]

41. I was making a joke about MAGA

Obviously

[wyn borkins]

45. Understood (n/t)

[underpants]

42. I was making a joke about MAGA

Obviously

[brush]

43. Not at all obvios. You might use the sarcasm gif and you won't be misunderstood.

[wyn borkins]

46. Got It (n/t)

[brush]

33. Greenland should require that the US should clean up the environmental hazards left behind on the former military...

we left behind back in the late '40s. I had no idea we left rusting, deteriorating buildings, barrels full of toxic who knows what. Even a once underground nuclear facility that's now surfacing
as the Arctic ice is receding.

Once the land is restored to how you found it, we'll talk about a mutual protection pact between our two nations — no need for any invasion/occupation. Sort of like what we thought we had with NATO. Remember that?

The island is certainly not going anywhere. We're here, We'll lease you more land for a base/bases with clauses for clean up and leave it how you found it in the future, and leave it there so Russia, China and whoever knows of the pact and to keep away.

Again, no need for an invasion, we'll talk late about mineral development with an agreed upon compensation percentage as it is our land and our minerals.

How about that bully boys?

[wyn borkins]

47. Excellent Suggestions :: Makes Good Sense :: Appreciations :: (n/t)

[muriel_volestrangler]

35. any foreign invasion would instantly turn into a search and rescue operation

That's the adapted message (it's a paraphrase of what people say about an actual invasion of the Canadian High Artctic) of this Danish analysis. This is the real situation, without Trumpian bullshit: China has no particular interest - they once put in a bid to run the main airport, but withdrew it (and all you need to do to avoid that is say "thanks but no thanks" ), and that's it; Russia would like a way to send out nuclear subs from its Arctic bases unnoticed, but that just needs international cooperation, not a change of government (or "ownership", as Trump wants to think of it).

Don’t get Greenland’s role in Arctic security wrong

President Donald J. Trump insists on buying or taking Greenland “for purposes of national security and freedom throughout the world”. Most recently, he cited one reason that “you don’t even need binoculars – you look outside. You have China ships all over the place. You have Russian ships all over the place.” This is a misunderstanding that conflates what goes on in different parts of the Arctic, and it is dangerous for all of us if the US acts on it.
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Canadian officers are fond of explaining how any foreign invasion of the Canadian Arctic Archipelago neighbouring Greenland would instantly turn into a search and rescue operation. Once ashore, invaders would not be able to go anywhere. No two Greenlandic settlements are connected by roads. The coastline is cut through with deep fjords, glaciers and sharp mountain ranges. Going inland will demand a weeks-long crossing of the inland ice. Greenlanders, knowing their geography, fear no invasion. However, they do worry that civilian critical infrastructure is vulnerable to sabotage – particularly telecommunications that depend on only two submarine cables.

The US already controls the territory in terms of military security, as formalised in a 1951 agreement with Denmark co-signed by the autonomous Government of Greenland in 2004. There are no Chinese investments or infrastructure in Greenland. It is very difficult to conceive of any military installation or activity which the Danish or Greenlandic authorities would be able to deny the US. Let alone any they would want to deny, if the US explained its necessity.
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Chinese activity is very far from Greenland
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Fourth, Russian second-strike capability in the event of a nuclear conflict relies on submarines having come out of Murmansk, hiding under the polar ice, and sneaking through the “GIUK” gap between Greenland, Iceland and the UK. So there might indeed be Russian vessels in the vicinity of Greenland. The US, the UK and Norway are “phishing” for these submarines. Denmark is likely going to chip in as a result of the defence spending negotiations currently being concluded in the Danish parliament.

https://www.diis.dk/en/research/dont-get-greenlands-role-in-arctic-security-wrong

[andym]

37. There's strong evidence that Russia wants Ukraine, yet Trump seems to want to give it to them

how does Vance reconcile that attitude. Ukraine has even more valuable assets (minerals/rich farmland/etc) than Greenland.

[Retrograde]

39. This from the guy who admitted he made up

the stories of Haitian immigrants eating cats and dogs? Who won't even use his birth name? And he expects people to believe him?