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demmiblue

(38,183 posts)
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:24 AM Tuesday

U.S. prosecutors to seek death penalty for Luigi Mangione, Bondi says

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, April 1 (Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General Pamela Bondi directed federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty for Luigi Mangione, the man accused of shooting and killing UnitedHealth Group (UNH.N), opens new tab Chief Executive Brian Thompson in New York last year.

Lawyers for Mangione did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Mangione has pleaded not guilty to New York state charges of murder as an act of terrorism and weapons offenses. He could face life in prison without parole if convicted in that case. New York does not have the death penalty for state charges.

Mangione faces a parallel federal indictment over Thompson's killing. He could face the death penalty if convicted in that case. He has not yet been asked to enter a plea to the federal charges.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-prosecutors-seek-death-penalty-luigi-mangione-bondi-says-2025-04-01/

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U.S. prosecutors to seek death penalty for Luigi Mangione, Bondi says (Original Post) demmiblue Tuesday OP
No way a jury will unanimously convict with DP. aeromanKC Tuesday #1
That is what i think--especially given the obvious manner in which DOJ under Bondi wants to exploit this case.. hlthe2b Tuesday #3
Bondi is the perfect little NAZI... hlthe2b Tuesday #2
How about the cop killers on J6?? Death sentance,nah out on the streets ready to comit MORE crimes. Bengus81 Tuesday #4
There were no cop killers on Jan6 FBaggins Tuesday #5
You get drunk and t-bone someone in a car crash and they DIE the next day Bengus81 Tuesday #8
Not even close to parallel... but even if it were... FBaggins Tuesday #14
They planned J6,it was pre-meditated. Or is there always a gallows and noose at the Capitol? Bengus81 Tuesday #16
Mangione planned to kill someone... and did FBaggins Tuesday #17
Room for punishment? Their all out walking the streets which was my main point. Bengus81 Tuesday #19
And on top of that, the fuckhead wants to pay them. Initech Tuesday #6
I don't think the Feds should have jurisdiction SpankMe Tuesday #7
Yeah, it's pretty thin Prairie Gates Tuesday #12
Crossing state lines to commit a murder does give the feds jurisdiction FBaggins Tuesday #15
Some background-info on how the case is going: DetlefK Tuesday #9
Re: 9. Some background-info on how the case is going: Ankrophobic Tuesday #11
Luigi--Death Penalty for Using The Internet Ankrophobic Tuesday #10
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #20
corporate masters want their pound of flesh...daily. nt Javaman Tuesday #13
So, where are all the people who have a lot of hate for this guy? SunImp Tuesday #18

hlthe2b

(108,924 posts)
3. That is what i think--especially given the obvious manner in which DOJ under Bondi wants to exploit this case..
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:31 AM
Tuesday

I think the jury--even if not overly sympathetic to the act--will be so when they see the bloodlust brought by Federal prosecutors.

hlthe2b

(108,924 posts)
2. Bondi is the perfect little NAZI...
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:30 AM
Tuesday

No, I'm not defending Luigi, but I most certainly am anti-death penalty--especially to enhance one's political ambitions.

Too bad she could not have been there to witness the bloody firing squad execution last week in South Carolina*. I'd dearly love to have seen her blonde ponytail literally dripping in the blood she so "craves."

* https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20187533

Bengus81

(8,532 posts)
4. How about the cop killers on J6?? Death sentance,nah out on the streets ready to comit MORE crimes.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:31 AM
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FBaggins

(28,063 posts)
5. There were no cop killers on Jan6
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:39 AM
Tuesday

There were people who later died arguably as a result of their behavior… but that would be manslaughter at worst - and does not qualify for the DP

Bengus81

(8,532 posts)
8. You get drunk and t-bone someone in a car crash and they DIE the next day
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:00 PM
Tuesday

after having two strokes your as guilty as if they died the same day. Sicknick wasn't some 70 year old who ate KFC and diet coke all his life and stroked out just because. His TWO strokes were 100% tied to the violence,the beatings and the shock value of that day.

So YES they were cop killers on J6.

On January 7, 2021, a United States Capitol Police (USCP) officer, Brian Sicknick, died after suffering two strokes the day after he responded to the attack on the U.S. Capitol during which he was assaulted with pepper spray by two rioters.


FBaggins

(28,063 posts)
14. Not even close to parallel... but even if it were...
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 08:13 PM
Tuesday

... There is no death penalty for vehicular manslaughter.

Mangione committed a planned murder/assassination. There is no action comparable on 1/6.

Bengus81

(8,532 posts)
16. They planned J6,it was pre-meditated. Or is there always a gallows and noose at the Capitol?
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 08:18 PM
Tuesday

A slap on the wrist of 44 months for a cop dying the next day after being beat SHITLESS by those NAZIS is fucking BS.

FBaggins

(28,063 posts)
17. Mangione planned to kill someone... and did
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 08:21 PM
Tuesday

Once again - there is no parallel here.

A slap on the wrist of 44 months for a cop dying the next day after being beat SHITLESS by those NAZIS is fucking BS.

And yet there's a massive chasm between that and the death penalty.

There's lots of room for advocating a more substantial punishment without having to ridiculously compare it to walking up to a target on the street and assassinating them.

Bengus81

(8,532 posts)
19. Room for punishment? Their all out walking the streets which was my main point.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 08:41 PM
Tuesday

And YES those Trump humpers walked up to those cops (it was pre-meditated with loads of bear spray) and beat the hell out of 174 cops. It's a miracle several didn't die that day instead of later.

What Mangione did was horrible,what those J6er's did was equally horrible and a cop DIED because of it,others committed suicide days later. Bondi doesn't give a rats ass about the death of that cop if it was on her watch and never will.

You don't see a parallel but I do.....and a big dose of hypocrisy.

SpankMe

(3,425 posts)
7. I don't think the Feds should have jurisdiction
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 11:47 AM
Tuesday

I wondered how the Feds could claim jurisdiction, and the reason is pretty far out there:

"Federal prosecutors say they have jurisdiction in the case because Mangione's "travel in interstate commerce" - taking a bus from Atlanta to New York prior to the killing - as well as "use of interstate facilities" by allegedly utilizing a cell phone and the internet "to plan and carry out the stalking, shooting, and killing"

If traveling from one state to another, plus the use of a cell phone and Internet to "plan" a crime, is sufficient for Federal jurisdiction, then half of all crime in the US is under Federal jurisdiction. Ridiculous.

Reminds me of when the Feds prosecute a kid for shoplifting a candy bar because there was a contract post office window in the back of the store.

Mangione's lawyers should challenge Federal jurisdiction.

FBaggins

(28,063 posts)
15. Crossing state lines to commit a murder does give the feds jurisdiction
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 08:16 PM
Tuesday

Remember all the arguments re: whether Rittenhouse brought a firearm across state lines?

That was entirely about whether the feds could act in his case (potentially charging him with murder).

DetlefK

(16,618 posts)
9. Some background-info on how the case is going:
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:06 PM
Tuesday

The cops who arrested him fucked it up. Big time.
* They interrogated Mangione without a Miranda-warning.
* They confiscated and searched his belongings without so much as officially detaining him. He was, officially and legally speaking, free to leave any time while the cops questioned and searched him, because they forgot to tell him that he is detained. Thus: All the evidence gathered on him is tainted and the trial will be A REAL SHIT-SHOW when prosecution and defense argue over what is admissible and what is not.



Also, the prosecution and police are already leaking evidence to the public, tainting the jury-pool: They have published Mangione's private notebook and have labeled it as his "manifesto", which inaccurately implies that HE wanted to publish it. Nope. Private notes do not a manifesto make.

Also, the defense complained to the judge in a motion that the prosecution is giving out evidence to the public that the defense has not gotten in discovery. The prosecution's response was that they have not given this evidence to the defense because the defense could possibly leak it to the public.



Also, for some reason the prosecution is dragging this case out as long as possible. My guess is that they know that their evidence is legally tainted and they don't know what to do.

Ankrophobic

(2 posts)
11. Re: 9. Some background-info on how the case is going:
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 03:07 PM
Tuesday
Also, for some reason the prosecution is dragging this case out as long as possible. My guess is that they know that their evidence is legally tainted and they don't know what to do.

They know what to do. Delay, delay, delay, while the Trump Administration chips away at our legal protections, and before you know it, those violations of Luigi's rights and that tainted evidence will no longer be concerns for them.

Ankrophobic

(2 posts)
10. Luigi--Death Penalty for Using The Internet
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 02:20 PM
Tuesday

The US Justice Department (under Biden!) immediately assumed control of Luigi's prosecution, because the man who was killed was a member of the Ruling Class. Now they are seeking the death penalty, and one of the acts cited is that Luigi allegedly used the Internet in furtherance of the crime.

By this standard, the federal government can assume primacy in virtually any criminal prosecution, simply by alleging that the defendant somehow used the Internet in furtherance of the crime.

Expect to see more of this.

SunImp

(2,464 posts)
18. So, where are all the people who have a lot of hate for this guy?
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 08:39 PM
Tuesday

They had strong words for Mangione for killing that corrupt CEO, but no denouncement or anything for what Bondi is calling for

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