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BumRushDaShow

(152,319 posts)
Wed May 14, 2025, 10:49 AM Yesterday

U.S. to spend $1 trillion on nuclear weapons over next decade

Source: Axios

5 hours ago


It's going to cost nearly $1 trillion to operate, maintain and upgrade America's nuclear arsenal over the next decade — more per year ($95 billion) than what's spent on many federal agencies.

Why it matters: That eye-popping estimate from the Congressional Budget Office is catnip for critics, who argue Washington is spending blindly or that portions of the triad are vestigial.

Driving the news: The combined 2025-34 nuke plans of the Defense and Energy departments amount to $946 billion.

  • In what have been a few wild days for the nuke-watching world — including India-Pakistan clashes and the U.S. Air Force saying it needs new silos for its already delayed and over-budget Sentinel missiles — the dollar figures jump out.


  • What they're saying: "The huge expenses tallied in this report were not anticipated at the outset of the nuclear modernization program," said Greg Mello, the director of Los Alamos Study Group, which monitors National Nuclear Security Administration sites and activities.

  • "There will be no return to the 'heroic mode of production' for nuclear weapons," he added.
  • "Even if Congress dumped $100 or $200 billion more on nuclear weapons, the system that produces them would not 'jump to the task' for years, if at all."


  • Read more: https://www.axios.com/2025/05/14/nuke-spending-cbo-report-criticism



    Cut a trillion for services that help keep people alive and healthy in order to pay for things that kill people.
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    U.S. to spend $1 trillion on nuclear weapons over next decade (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP
    Who gets rich on an arms build up? Irish_Dem Yesterday #1
    correct me if wrong but the USA is the largest producer of weapons! NOT good IMHO. ;; riversedge Yesterday #3
    George Carlin said it best: Initech Yesterday #7
    A national treasure gone far too soon. MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #12
    Yes the US military industrial complex. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #17
    People/Corporations who give loads of "free speech" to all two parties. (n/t) DJ Synikus Makisimus 17 hrs ago #18
    No thank you. I prefer my Medicare and Social Security. no_hypocrisy Yesterday #2
    I'm surprised it's only $100 Billion a year, unfortunately. Silent Type Yesterday #4
    Considering how old much of our nuclear weapons and delivery systems are, I'm surprised its not higher DetroitLegalBeagle Yesterday #5
    We got no money to keep the government open, but plenty to blow shit up! Initech Yesterday #6
    Two questions: where will this money come from... ananda Yesterday #8
    How come nobody mentioned that Eloon is in nuclear weapons business? Wonder Why Yesterday #9
    How exactly? EX500rider 23 hrs ago #15
    and they don't make me feel, well, safer. twodogsbarking Yesterday #10
    I went to grade school in the old "duck and cover" days but in Junior High School elocs Yesterday #11
    Well... as long as we're spending it on something really, REALLY useful for once... Montauk6 Yesterday #13
    Primarily maintenance - minimal upgrades. NoMoreRepugs 23 hrs ago #14
    We already have enough to end humanity 300 times over or some shit. What, are extraterrestrials invading? Karasu 21 hrs ago #16

    riversedge

    (75,464 posts)
    3. correct me if wrong but the USA is the largest producer of weapons! NOT good IMHO. ;;
    Wed May 14, 2025, 10:58 AM
    Yesterday

    but only the well off--in the USA will get most of any money IF and when we sell them

    NOTHING good about any of that.

    Initech

    (104,791 posts)
    7. George Carlin said it best:
    Wed May 14, 2025, 12:02 PM
    Yesterday

    "America is the only country in the entire world that mentions rockets and bombs in its' national anthem."

    DetroitLegalBeagle

    (2,354 posts)
    5. Considering how old much of our nuclear weapons and delivery systems are, I'm surprised its not higher
    Wed May 14, 2025, 11:49 AM
    Yesterday

    Much of our stuff was designed back in the 60s and 70s. I don't think we've built a brand new warhead since the 80s or early 90s. Everything we have has been rebuilt from old parts and reused cores.

    I'm also kinda surprised we are still sticking with land based icbms. I know they are the fastest reacting leg of the triad, but they are also going to be the first to get wiped out.

    EX500rider

    (11,800 posts)
    15. How exactly?
    Wed May 14, 2025, 02:47 PM
    23 hrs ago
    The development and maintenance of nuclear weapons is a complex process involving various entities, primarily governmental organizations and private companies under contract, within the Nuclear Security Enterprise (NSE).

    Here's a breakdown of who is involved:

    1. Governmental Oversight & Direction:
    U.S. Department of Energy (DOE): The DOE, through the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA), is the primary agency responsible for the nuclear weapons program.
    National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA): This semi-autonomous agency within the DOE is specifically tasked with maintaining and modernizing the U.S. nuclear stockpile.
    Department of Defense (DoD): The DoD is responsible for the delivery systems (missiles, bombers, submarines) and integrating the nuclear warheads with these systems.

    2. Research & Design Laboratories:
    Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL): LANL is a design laboratory involved in the research, design, and development of nuclear weapons.
    Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL): LLNL is another design laboratory focused on the safety and reliability of the nuclear explosive package.
    Sandia National Laboratories (SNL): SNL focuses on the non-nuclear components of nuclear weapons and overall systems engineering.

    3. Production Facilities:
    Pantex Plant: This plant is responsible for the assembly, disassembly, and maintenance of nuclear weapons.
    Y-12 National Security Complex: Y-12 produces enriched uranium components and is a key facility in the nuclear weapons complex.
    Kansas City National Security Campus: This facility manufactures non-nuclear components for nuclear weapons.
    Savannah River Site: This site plays a role in tritium production, a key component in nuclear weapons.

    4. Private Companies:
    Management & Operating (M&O) Contractors: Private companies are contracted to manage and operate the various national laboratories and production facilities.
    Defense Contractors: Companies like Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, and Boeing are involved in building and maintaining delivery systems and some weapon components.

    In Summary:
    While the U.S. government, through the DOE/NNSA, has overall control and responsibility for nuclear weapons, the actual work is carried out by a network of national laboratories, production facilities, and private companies under contract, forming the Nuclear Security Enterprise.

    elocs

    (24,277 posts)
    11. I went to grade school in the old "duck and cover" days but in Junior High School
    Wed May 14, 2025, 02:00 PM
    Yesterday

    I remember asking my science teacher what they would do if the bomb were dropped when we were in school. He gave me perhaps the most honest answer I ever got from a teacher:
    "We' probably send you home and let you die there."

    Montauk6

    (9,099 posts)
    13. Well... as long as we're spending it on something really, REALLY useful for once...
    Wed May 14, 2025, 02:26 PM
    Yesterday

    Hey, people come and go; nothing says "committed" like an ICBM, and we're practically a month away from Father's Day.

    Karasu

    (1,103 posts)
    16. We already have enough to end humanity 300 times over or some shit. What, are extraterrestrials invading?
    Wed May 14, 2025, 05:12 PM
    21 hrs ago
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