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highplainsdem

(57,608 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:20 PM Jun 17

Trump demands 'UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER' from Iran as he issues chilling threat to Supreme Leader Khamenei

Source: Independent

President Donald Trump on Tuesday demanded that Iranian forces unconditionally lay down their arms as he issued a thinly veiled threat that American forces may target Iran’s head of state if the Islamic Republic doesn’t cease targeting Israeli civilians — or targets any American forces in the region.

In a post on Truth Social, Trump wrote that the U.S. “know exactly where” Iran’s “so-called Supreme Leader,” Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, is “hiding” and described him as an “easy target” who is currently “safe” in his current location.

“We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. But we don’t want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers,” the president continued before adding: “Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

In a second post moments later, he added another two-word demand: “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!”

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Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-surrender-israel-threat-b2771759.html

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Trump demands 'UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER' from Iran as he issues chilling threat to Supreme Leader Khamenei (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 17 OP
That'll teach you to make fun of his birthday party parade. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 17 #1
So Trump's prosecuting this war now instead of Bibi? sop Jun 17 #2
"Thank you for your attention to this matter!" Ray Bruns Jun 17 #3
Trump being an ass, as usual. Article on this and how people are mocking him: highplainsdem Jun 17 #9
Iran is going to go for it Ponietz Jun 17 #4
Boy they're going to wish they hadn't if they do EX500rider Jun 17 #7
If they hit Israel with a dirty bomb, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 17 #8
They claim to have an undetectable missile Ponietz Jun 17 #10
Yeeaahh, I would take that statement with a bag of salt, not a grain, but a bag, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 17 #17
Maybe just a grain of salt -- read this today Ponietz Jun 18 #32
The undetectable missile SomewhereInTheMiddle Jun 18 #31
This might interest you Ponietz Jun 18 #33
Would detonating a dirty bomb reduce support for Iran? sarisataka Jun 17 #12
That would not be a trivial event. It will illici an immediate response of greater severity. CentralMass Jun 17 #15
But civilians are a fair target in Ukraine. nt doc03 Jun 17 #5
Hey nowforever Jun 17 #6
"We know where you live." Kid Berwyn Jun 17 #11
Who the almighty fuck does he think he is and when did he order Israel's military to fire of the first strikes? Texin Jun 17 #13
If Trump orders the death of another head of state, might they not retaliate in kind? mackdaddy Jun 17 #14
There must be more damage being done to Israel than we are being told. nt Jit423 Jun 17 #16
Or the Iranians are putting out propaganda and fake news. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 17 #18
Did the US Congress say that the US is at war with IRAN? riversedge Jun 17 #19
One thing Trump definitely knows Mz Pip Jun 17 #20
If that is the case, over 70% of Americans say no to getting involved Butterflylady Jun 17 #21
People may be against it now Mz Pip Jun 17 #23
Magats are very stupid and have short memories mdbl Jun 17 #25
Let's ask SNL usonian Jun 17 #22
War with Iran will not end well for the United States. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 17 #24
Thinking back to bush/Cheney/Iraq and no declaration of war does not give comfort. Attilatheblond Jun 17 #27
When you do MASSIVE screw-ups every week, you need massive distractions Attilatheblond Jun 17 #26
Trying not to TACO while on the skids bucolic_frolic Jun 17 #28
...from a three time draft dodger demosincebirth Jun 17 #29
The convicted felon thinks he is a war movie hero... Justice matters. Jun 17 #30

Ray Bruns

(5,452 posts)
3. "Thank you for your attention to this matter!"
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:26 PM
Jun 17

What is this horse shit that he’s been adding to his texts lately?

highplainsdem

(57,608 posts)
9. Trump being an ass, as usual. Article on this and how people are mocking him:
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:50 PM
Jun 17
https://www.fastcompany.com/91321753/thank-you-for-your-attention-to-this-matter-donald-trump-viral-meme

The cold formality of TYFYATTM seems meant to distinguish one of Trump’s many daily dispatches as Official Business, something to be considered with utmost seriousness. It doesn’t always get the job done. In one instance, Trump dropped a TYFYATTM after merely mentioning that he’d had a conversation with Canadian PM Mark Carney, perhaps out of habit. (Although it’s certainly possible that Trump’s team uses the strange phrase when posting on his behalf, now that it’s become a signature line.)

TYFYATTM fuses together formality with urgency, conveying that something must be done! Whether he intends to or not, by addressing readers directly, Trump involves them. TYFYATTM brings them into breaking news, like when late-night talk show hosts precede a monologue joke with, “Did you hear about this?” Some readers might even feel deputized by the phrase—even if all they have to do is hate Harvard a little more than before. On the other hand, Trump may just understand that people like being thanked—even when they haven’t done anything.

In any case, whether through marketing prowess or sheer force of will and repetition, Trump has quickly lodged his new catchphrase within the cultural vernacular.

People on X and Bluesky have been using it as a goofy mock-signoff for decidedly unofficial proclamations.

Ponietz

(3,952 posts)
4. Iran is going to go for it
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:33 PM
Jun 17

Maybe a dirty bomb, at least.

Iran’s top general says ‘punitive’ attacks will be launched against Israel
According to Iran’s Press TV, Abdolrahim Mousavi, chief of staff of the Iranian Armed Forces, said: “The operations carried out so far have been a warning for deterrence – the punitive operation will be executed soon.”


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee?update=3782007

EX500rider

(11,936 posts)
7. Boy they're going to wish they hadn't if they do
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:44 PM
Jun 17

Last edited Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:39 PM - Edit history (1)

If anything makes Israel break out the nukes it's going to be a dirty bomb on Tel Aviv

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,864 posts)
8. If they hit Israel with a dirty bomb,
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:47 PM
Jun 17

then it's a safe bet that Iran will cease to exist as a country about an hour later, the US would commit every air asset to the fight that's in the region.

Ponietz

(3,952 posts)
10. They claim to have an undetectable missile
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:53 PM
Jun 17
Iran used ‘undetectable’ missile in strike on Israeli intelligence site
Iran’s Defence Ministry says it used a new, undetectable missile in striking an Israeli intelligence facility, claiming the attack penetrated multiple layers of air defences.

“In today’s attack, we deployed missiles that could not be tracked or intercepted,” said Brigadier General Reza Talaei-Nik, the ministry’s spokesperson, according to Iranian state news agency IRNA.

He described the operation as a surprise for Israelis, warning that they will witness more.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee?update

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,864 posts)
17. Yeeaahh, I would take that statement with a bag of salt, not a grain, but a bag,
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 02:40 PM
Jun 17

more likely, a few got through the layered system, which is what happens in war, no air defense system is 100% effective, the key is to shoot down the majority and take out the Iranian's missile sites in Iran, which will now be easier as Israel has complete air superiority over Iran.

Ponietz

(3,952 posts)
32. Maybe just a grain of salt -- read this today
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 08:47 PM
Jun 18
Some hypersonic missiles are also equipped with a hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV), a warhead attached to a missile that can manoeuvre and glide at speeds five times faster than the speed of sound. In Iran, the Fattah-2 uses the HGV. “It looks like a normal missile with a craft attached to the end of it,” Gatopoulos said.

He explained that besides travelling faster, HGVs also zigzag and do not move on a predictive path like regular ballistic missiles. Such quick, erratic movements evade air defence systems, which are designed to predict the path a missile will take.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/18/how-has-iran-managed-to-pierce-through-israels-air-defence-systems
31. The undetectable missile
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:44 AM
Jun 18


Likely a covert surface-based delivery platform. Not that they couldn't do a lot of damage with one of these, given the right payload.

CentralMass

(16,372 posts)
15. That would not be a trivial event. It will illici an immediate response of greater severity.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 02:06 PM
Jun 17

nowforever

(578 posts)
6. Hey
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:43 PM
Jun 17

We have nothing to fear the greatest most fabulous deal maker has the solution start World War III...or so it seems.

Texin

(2,778 posts)
13. Who the almighty fuck does he think he is and when did he order Israel's military to fire of the first strikes?
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:55 PM
Jun 17

It seems as if he's well and truly gone completely off the rails. This is the kind ranting of someone in a cell in Bedlam.

mackdaddy

(1,803 posts)
14. If Trump orders the death of another head of state, might they not retaliate in kind?
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:59 PM
Jun 17

I don't know how you stop a fiber optic controlled drone over a golf course.

Maybe he does not think that far ahead...

Mz Pip

(28,174 posts)
20. One thing Trump definitely knows
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 03:41 PM
Jun 17

and that’s presidential poll numbers rise when we’re at war.

Butterflylady

(4,498 posts)
21. If that is the case, over 70% of Americans say no to getting involved
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 04:02 PM
Jun 17

And a good amount of MAGAS said he campaigned on stopping the Ukraine war and taking care of Gaza.

The majority of Americans do not want us to be involved in a war between Israel and Iran. Unfortunately, we are but, it's not going to end well.

Mz Pip

(28,174 posts)
23. People may be against it now
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 05:43 PM
Jun 17

But once we’re involved people become all “‘Merica, yeah!”

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,980 posts)
24. War with Iran will not end well for the United States.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 06:40 PM
Jun 17

Iran is no small country. A population of over 92 million and spanning close to 650,000 sq. miles. It's military are well trained and installations all over the country.

If TACO Don wants to go to war with Iran, he will have to sell both Houses of Congress on it. For it is one of the powers of the Congress to declare war on another country for reasons that endanger the United States. The LAST DECLARED war by the Congress was Dec. 8, 1941.

Attilatheblond

(6,780 posts)
26. When you do MASSIVE screw-ups every week, you need massive distractions
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 07:45 PM
Jun 17

The whole world suffers because he refuses mental health care.

bucolic_frolic

(51,641 posts)
28. Trying not to TACO while on the skids
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 07:50 PM
Jun 17

Threats don't often create the conditions for unconditional surrender. Unconditional surrender means you're beaten. Think Nazi Germany, Japan 1945.

Justice matters.

(8,685 posts)
30. The convicted felon thinks he is a war movie hero...
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:31 PM
Jun 17

He has to put it in ALL CAPS like if he was a juvenile 7th-grader.

They must be laughing themselves silly at him...

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