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highplainsdem

(57,415 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 03:45 PM Jun 19

ICE Imposes New Rules on Congressional Visits

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Source: NYT

The Department of Homeland Security has imposed new limits on visits by members of Congress and their staff to immigration enforcement facilities, intensifying a conflict between federal immigration officials and Democratic lawmakers.

In guidance released this month, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement asserts that it has broad power to “deny a request or otherwise cancel, reschedule or terminate a tour or visit” by lawmakers or their staff under a number of circumstances, including “operational concerns” or if “facility management or other ICE officials deem it appropriate to do so.”

Under existing law, members of Congress can make unannounced oversight visits to immigration facilities that “detain or otherwise house aliens.” But the new policy specifies that ICE field offices are not subject to those requirements. Detained immigrants have been held in some of those offices for days waiting for officials to process their cases.

The new protocol, updated since February, comes as Democratic lawmakers have repeatedly been denied access to ICE facilities this month as they try to conduct congressional oversight, and amid high-profile clashes between federal immigration officials and members of Congress.

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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/19/us/politics/ice-congress.html

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ICE Imposes New Rules on Congressional Visits (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 19 OP
They don't write the laws C_U_L8R Jun 19 #1
democrats should follow these steps moonshinegnomie Jun 19 #2
Arrest them for what? madville Jun 19 #5
Complete BS underpants Jun 19 #3
their so called rules dont even make sense moonshinegnomie Jun 19 #4
Seems clear: No notice is required for a member of congress. 24 hours notice required for a designee of a member. onenote Jun 19 #7
Take this to court! Meanwhile, show up and make a spectacle! OrlandoDem2 Jun 19 #6
This is your new, "policy," Bayard Jun 19 #8
After an alert to the hosts, locking. Emile Jun 19 #9

C_U_L8R

(47,694 posts)
1. They don't write the laws
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 03:49 PM
Jun 19

And they certainly aren't elected to do anything of the kind.

moonshinegnomie

(3,528 posts)
2. democrats should follow these steps
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 03:57 PM
Jun 19

1) show up unannounced for a visit.
2) get denied entry
3) have local police arrest the ICE agents. If ICE wont allow their arrest wait til teh agents is off duty on heir wat home and pick them up.
4) transport the agents to an undisclosed jail making ICE have to search for them


madville

(7,810 posts)
5. Arrest them for what?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:07 PM
Jun 19

Local police would have no jurisdiction or authority to detain federal officers at the request of Congressional reps.

underpants

(191,549 posts)
3. Complete BS
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 03:59 PM
Jun 19

moonshinegnomie

(3,528 posts)
4. their so called rules dont even make sense
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:04 PM
Jun 19
(a) None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available to the Department of
Homeland Security by this Act may be used to prevent any of the following persons from
entering, for the purpose of conducting oversight, any facility operated by or for the
Department of Homeland Security used to detain or otherwise house aliens, or to make any
temporary modification at any such facility that in any way alters what is observed by a
visiting member of Congress or such designated employee, compared to what would be
observed in the absence of such modification:
(1) A Member of Congress.
(2) An employee of the United States House of Representatives or the United States
Senate designated by such a Member for the purposes of this section.
(b) Nothing in this section may be construed to require a Member of Congress to provide
prior notice of the intent to enter a facility described in subsection (a) for the purpose of
conducting oversight.
(c) With respect to individuals described in subsection (a)(2), the Department of Homeland
Security may require that a request be made at least 24 hours in advance of an intent to enter
a facility described in subsection (a).


so let me get theis straight
2b says congress doesnt have to provide notice .
but part c says 24 hour notice...


time for a court to order ICE to follow the law.

onenote

(45,465 posts)
7. Seems clear: No notice is required for a member of congress. 24 hours notice required for a designee of a member.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:17 PM
Jun 19

24 hours notice is required for an employee of the House or Senate designated by a member. In other words, the no notice rule applies to members and the 24 hours notice applies to individuals employed by Congress attending as their designee.

The problem, of course, is that members are unlikely to show up without staff and the 24 hour notice applies to staff.

OrlandoDem2

(3,014 posts)
6. Take this to court! Meanwhile, show up and make a spectacle!
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:15 PM
Jun 19

Bayard

(26,042 posts)
8. This is your new, "policy,"
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:23 PM
Jun 19

Not the law. Pound sand.

Emile

(36,006 posts)
9. After an alert to the hosts, locking.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:07 PM
Jun 19

This is duplicate of the same news story posted earlier.

Dupe of https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143481865

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