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BumRushDaShow

(157,408 posts)
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 08:35 AM Jun 25

Scoop: Trump denies 9 former Biden aides executive privilege

Source: Axios

10 hours ago


The Trump White House has decided that nine former senior Biden aides won't be protected by executive privilege during their interviews for a congressional probe into Joe Biden's mental fitness for office.

Why it matters: The White House's move means the former Biden aides will have to answer questions about their private conversations with Biden, unless they or Biden try to challenge the decision in court.

  • Republicans have launched four separate investigations into Biden, 82. They're examining whether his declining health affected his abilities in the White House, and allegations that his staff helped cover up his decline.


  • Driving the news: Trump's White House sent a letter Tuesday waiving executive privilege for former adviser Neera Tanden, according to a White House official.

  • The White House told Tanden's lawyers that invoking executive privilege is not "in the national interest" given the "exceptional circumstances," according to a copy of the letter obtained by Axios.


  • Trump has decided to do the same for eight other former top Biden aides the GOP-led House Oversight Committee plans to interview.

  • They include Jill Biden's adviser Anthony Bernal along with Joe Biden's advisers Annie Tomasini, Ashley Williams, Mike Donilon, Anita Dunn, Ron Klain, Bruce Reed and Steve Ricchetti, a person familiar with the matter told Axios.


  • Read more: https://www.axios.com/2025/06/25/biden-investigation-congress-aides-executive-privilege
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    Scoop: Trump denies 9 former Biden aides executive privilege (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 25 OP
    "His Dumbass has decided/ordered ... " LSparkle Jun 25 #1
    There is a difference between executive orders, and executive privilege. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 25 #18
    I would hire very good lawyers before I said one word!! riversedge Jun 25 #2
    "Why didn't you tell anyone about Joe Biden's mental state?"..... JohnnyRingo Jun 25 #3
    "Because there was nothing wrong w his mental state." emulatorloo Jun 25 #27
    Who the f*#k decided that only TSF can define what is or is not in the 'national interest' or 'national security'? sinkingfeeling Jun 25 #4
    He certainly is full of himself PatSeg Jun 25 #6
    Cause congress and the Supreme Court has decided that he is the king and the second coming. LiberalArkie Jun 25 #10
    Take a cue from Republicans Zephyr1948 Jun 25 #5
    Republicans do what they want, and they never apologize for pushing the guardrails aside. chia Jun 25 #17
    Welcome to DU, Zephyr1948. littlemissmartypants Jun 25 #24
    Biden and his aides should challenge this in court oldmanlynn Jun 25 #7
    ironically, that is already floating through the appeals process w/Bannon & Navarro cadoman Jun 25 #11
    Too much projection can bite you Kali Jun 25 #8
    from what I can tell, the legality of this privilege remains undecided, both Bannon and Navarro went to prison for it cadoman Jun 25 #9
    Bannon wasn't in the administration during the time period leading up to J6 BumRushDaShow Jun 25 #13
    true but his case involved another salient point: TFG did invoke executive privilege w/respect to Bannon's conversations cadoman Jun 25 #15
    Alot of the "Executive Privilege" claims were denied early BumRushDaShow Jun 25 #22
    that's not exactly right, the privilege was denied in that specific instance but the denial wasn't absolute cadoman Jun 25 #25
    We are already in an unprecedented era of Presidential malfeasance BumRushDaShow Jun 25 #26
    More nonsense out of this vile hater. travelingthrulife Jun 25 #12
    We know the stories of his "cognitive decline" were bullshit. WinstonSmith4740 Jun 25 #14
    agree, I think they'll testify ultimately cadoman Jun 25 #16
    "Let the inquisitions begin." calimary Jun 25 #19
    Tell me about reaching across the isle again. republianmushroom Jun 25 #20
    Let's remember that every accusation from Trump, is a confession... judy Jun 25 #21
    I'm old enough to remember Owens Jun 25 #23

    LSparkle

    (12,084 posts)
    1. "His Dumbass has decided/ordered ... "
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 08:44 AM
    Jun 25

    These “executive” orders are like notes on cocktail napkins. Throw them in the dustbin where they belong!

    Why is everyone complying in advance? I will never for the life of me understand why people are so fucking afraid of that 💩 (turd). If you punch him in the nose he’ll fall off his lifts ... or melt like the witch of the west. Sheesh ...

    JohnnyRingo

    (20,080 posts)
    3. "Why didn't you tell anyone about Joe Biden's mental state?".....
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:09 AM
    Jun 25

    "Nobody asked me".

    Done, go home.

    sinkingfeeling

    (56,011 posts)
    4. Who the f*#k decided that only TSF can define what is or is not in the 'national interest' or 'national security'?
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:17 AM
    Jun 25

    PatSeg

    (50,681 posts)
    6. He certainly is full of himself
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:26 AM
    Jun 25

    He thinks he can proclaim anything and it is instantly law.

    Zephyr1948

    (1 post)
    5. Take a cue from Republicans
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:25 AM
    Jun 25

    You don't need executive privilege if...........you just "can't recall" anything.

    chia

    (2,615 posts)
    17. Republicans do what they want, and they never apologize for pushing the guardrails aside.
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:55 AM
    Jun 25

    Time for us to turn that back on them.

    oldmanlynn

    (697 posts)
    7. Biden and his aides should challenge this in court
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:28 AM
    Jun 25

    We should not give in. Executive privilege should apply to when these people worked for the executive.

    cadoman

    (1,552 posts)
    11. ironically, that is already floating through the appeals process w/Bannon & Navarro
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:45 AM
    Jun 25

    So if a decision comes down on that in their favor, it ironically helps us here.

    The more I think about it though, the more I think they should just testify. What the repukes think is there, won't be.

    It's a chance to bolster Biden's public perception with strong firsthand accounts from his most valuable aides.

    cadoman

    (1,552 posts)
    9. from what I can tell, the legality of this privilege remains undecided, both Bannon and Navarro went to prison for it
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:41 AM
    Jun 25
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/07/01/politics/steve-bannon-report-to-prison

    https://apnews.com/article/peter-navarro-jan-6-prison-congress-contempt-ea6f0e60dda1a7bcaef31012cd2c7678

    From what I can tell the cases are still floating through appeals?

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68208736/united-states-v-peter-navarro/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

    In both the Bannon and Navarro cases, the invocation of executive privilege seemed to be the linchpin. So if these aides want to avoid testifying that's what it seems they should seek to establish. Did Biden give that to them during his term? Was it implicitly granted? Can he grant it after the fact?

    It may make more sense to just answer the questions, even though that is a bruising and highly political exercise. It's also the chance to defend Biden's mental acuity and bolster the public's perception of him with firsthand accounts.

    This could easily be a situation where we bait the GOP into overextending, like they did with Hillary and the Benghazi hearing.

    BumRushDaShow

    (157,408 posts)
    13. Bannon wasn't in the administration during the time period leading up to J6
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:11 AM
    Jun 25

    so there should be no claim of "Executive Privilege" related to him. Navarro was in the administration during the first term and leading up to J6 however.

    cadoman

    (1,552 posts)
    15. true but his case involved another salient point: TFG did invoke executive privilege w/respect to Bannon's conversations
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:45 AM
    Jun 25

    So there we had an explicit invocation of the privilege. There are several permutations of the matter here, across the following variables:

    * Questioned is employed in the executive branch or not

    * Presence of an explicit invocation of executive privilege or not

    * Privilege invoked during or after the end of executive's term

    * Answers sought are relevant to Congressional duties or not

    As far as I can tell SC hasn't weighed in on any of this. Using common sense, I suspect they'll allow questioning as follows:

    1. Material sought must be relevant to Congressional duties.

    2. Executive privilege may be invoked over matters of presidential communications, criminal investigations, national security, military operations, and diplomatic communications.

    3. A limited, weaker executive privilege remains after the executive leaves office.

    4. Executive privilege is not limited to executive employees.

    I suspect the path that the GQP will use to press here is the idea that Biden wasn't the one using the autopen (signing a document on behalf of POTUS would be a criminal act), so questioning would likely be limited to that. I think matters beyond that would boil down to whether Biden asserts privilege, but he hasn't done so (yet)..

    cadoman

    (1,552 posts)
    25. that's not exactly right, the privilege was denied in that specific instance but the denial wasn't absolute
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 01:40 PM
    Jun 25

    The court left open the question that a former POTUS may invoke privilege even if the current POTUS disagrees.

    W/respect to these 9 persons called to testify, Biden could still attempt to invoke privilege if he wanted. It might get tossed but if he feels there is subject matter that is being improperly pursued, he could and should.

    BumRushDaShow

    (157,408 posts)
    26. We are already in an unprecedented era of Presidential malfeasance
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 01:48 PM
    Jun 25

    But I brought up those cases because you mentioned Bannon and Navarro. And actually in those cases, those were the only 2 who the DOJ pursued for "Contempt of Congress", and who ended up serving time, where Executive Privilege was argued (although in one case, it wasn't even invoked initially). Many of the others subpoenaed were semi-cooperating so it never went as far as those two.

    WinstonSmith4740

    (3,365 posts)
    14. We know the stories of his "cognitive decline" were bullshit.
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:33 AM
    Jun 25

    The headline on this Salon article says it all.

    https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-john-gartner-on-a-tale-of-two-brains-bidens-brain-is-aging-brain-is-dementing/

    I would tell those rethug hypocrites that OUR witnesses don't have to claim executive priviledge because all they have to do is tell the truth. There is NO there there. Like everything else they do, rethugs use slight of hand techniques to get the media to look over THERE, because their leader's brain turned into oatmeal years ago.

    snip:
    "At the end of this conversation, Gartner explains how even on his worst day as an older person, President Biden is a far superior leader and decision-maker (and human being) than Donald Trump."

    This article is from February of last year. We knew it. They were warned. I never want to hear, "I didn't vote for this" from any of them.

    cadoman

    (1,552 posts)
    16. agree, I think they'll testify ultimately
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:51 AM
    Jun 25

    Unless Joe decides he wants to assert privilege it just makes sense. There is nothing to hide.

    For all we know this article was dreamed up out of whole cloth.

    What is there to even say that Tanden and the others sought executive privilege to begin with??? They wouldn't expect TFG to grant it, surely?

    judy

    (1,956 posts)
    21. Let's remember that every accusation from Trump, is a confession...
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 11:30 AM
    Jun 25

    Like "The election was rigged by Democrats", or "His staff covered up Biden's cognitive decline"...

    Owens

    (550 posts)
    23. I'm old enough to remember
    Wed Jun 25, 2025, 12:02 PM
    Jun 25

    Republicans, like Jim Jordan, ignoring subpoenas. I would get a lawyer and drag this out as long as possible - just like Trump does!

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