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mahatmakanejeeves

(65,301 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:11 PM 7 hrs ago

BREAKING: Trump Drops Lawsuit Against Iowa Pollster Ann Selzer

Source: Mediaite

BREAKING: Trump Drops Lawsuit Against Iowa Pollster Ann Selzer

SARAH RUMPF JUN 30, 2025 3:43 PM

President Donald Trump has dropped his lawsuit against Iowa pollster Ann Selzer and the Des Moines Register, which he filed in response to a poll she conducted that was published by the paper right before the November election. … The poll in question showed Vice President Kamala Harris leading Trump 47% to 44% among likely Iowa voters -- a shocking result that made headlines across the country. Unsurprisingly, Trump was enraged at the poll, and neither winning the election (including a double-digit victory in Iowa) nor Selzer's retirement did much to soothe his ruffled feathers. Later that month, Trump called for Selzer and the newspaper to be investigated and then followed that up with a lawsuit in December.

In the complaint, Trump's attorneys attempted to frame the case as a consumer fraud issue, arguing that Selzer's poll constituted "fake news" and was an act of "brazen election interference," that was an "unfair act or practice" under Iowa's consumer fraud law "because the publication and release of the Harris Poll 'caused substantial, unavoidable injury to consumers that was not outweighed by any consumer or competitive benefits which the practice produced.'" ... The complaint was later amended to add a member of Congress who won her re-election, Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA), and a state senator who lost, Bradley Zaun.

The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression {"FIRE"}, a nonpartisan free speech advocacy nonprofit, announced in January that it would represent Selzer pro bono, and issued a statement blasting Trump's lawsuit for being "about as unconstitutional as it gets." Selzer's legal team includes FIRE attorneys Robert Corn-Revere as lead counsel along with Conor Fitzpatrick, Greg Greubel, and Adam Steinbaugh, plus Matthew McGuire of the Des Moines law firm Nyemaster Goode as additional local counsel.

A motion to dismiss filed on Selzer's behalf in February cited extensive case precedent on why the lawsuit overall was an attempt to undermine both the letter and intent of the First Amendment and delivered a scathing point-by-point takedown of how each element of the legal claims the plaintiffs are attempting to bring are "fatally flawed on every level" and nothing more than "a transparent attempt to punish news coverage and analysis of a political campaign."

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Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump/breaking-trump-drops-lawsuit-against-iowa-pollster-ann-selzer/amp/



Mediate is not what Ithinkif as a good source, but even the Des Moines Register doesn't have the story yet on its website.

Hat tip, Kyle Cheney

Trump drops lawsuit against the Des Moines Register and Ann Selzer over her late-campaign poll showing Kamala Harris in play in Iowa. storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

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Trump drops lawsuit against the Des Moines Register and Ann Selzer over her late-campaign poll showing Kamala Harris in play in Iowa.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.iasd.89411/gov.uscourts.iasd.89411.71.0.pdf

June 30, 2025 at 3:09 PM
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BREAKING: Trump Drops Lawsuit Against Iowa Pollster Ann Selzer (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves 7 hrs ago OP
She's the one who had excellent data. Showing a Harris win. Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #1
There is no way that Harris won Iowa. reACTIONary 7 hrs ago #6
How do you explain Stelzer's data? Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #9
Polls aren't 100 perfect accurate. JI7 7 hrs ago #10
It happens. mahatmakanejeeves 7 hrs ago #11
Research design and methodology have improved a great deal in the last 80 years. Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #13
Ask stelzer how she explains it. reACTIONary 5 hrs ago #16
Trump doesn't want the Data coming out in open court angryxyouth 6 hrs ago #14
Yes. His goal was to make her fold and run. Irish_Dem 6 hrs ago #15
I think you're right angryxyouth 5 hrs ago #17
Yes today they have very sophisticated computer analysis of research data. Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #19
I would be interested in knowing angryxyouth 52 min ago #23
I'm not sure I understand.... reACTIONary 5 hrs ago #20
Trump Drops Lawsuit Against Des Moines Register. elleng 7 hrs ago #2
Damage done. She should sue for Frivolous Litigation. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 7 hrs ago #3
Absolutely. Victims of these frivolous, meritless lawsuits should counter-sue. Midnight Writer 2 hrs ago #22
" Trump Drops Lawsuit Against Iowa Pollster Ann Selzer" MLWR 7 hrs ago #4
He doesn't want that discovery obamanut2012 7 hrs ago #5
perfect thought. bluestarone 7 hrs ago #7
The dismissal isn't about discovery. onenote 7 hrs ago #12
Thanks! Good analyses. reACTIONary 5 hrs ago #18
A good day for Ann BeyondGeography 7 hrs ago #8
Selzer's attorney tells me there has been no settlement. LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago #21

Irish_Dem

(71,638 posts)
1. She's the one who had excellent data. Showing a Harris win.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:14 PM
7 hrs ago

This pollster could tell us how Trump cheated to get installed into the WH.
She is the gold standard of Iowa polls.

Irish_Dem

(71,638 posts)
9. How do you explain Stelzer's data?
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:29 PM
7 hrs ago

Her research design and methodology looked good.
She predicted a major shift in Iowa.

Irish_Dem

(71,638 posts)
13. Research design and methodology have improved a great deal in the last 80 years.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:51 PM
7 hrs ago

We can get very accurate results via polling with fairly small sample sizes.

The fact Trump went after her right away with vengeance tells me she had the goods on Trump.
He had to destroy her.

angryxyouth

(259 posts)
14. Trump doesn't want the Data coming out in open court
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:42 PM
6 hrs ago

There is a case now which has been in the news about trying to get a hand recount in Rockland NY because of anomalies found in the tabulation . https://smartelections.us/2024-election-update

This is a report on the Pennsylvania election from world renowned political scientist and election analyst expert Dr Walter R Mebane a professor at the University of Michigan. This report is on his U Mich website.
https://websites.umich.edu/~wmebane/PA2024.pdf

There are also anomalies found in Iowa, North Carolina, Nevada and other. The information is coming out slowly as lawsuits are being filed to allow full hand recounts.

See electiontruthalliance.org I know it’s a terrible name but the analysis they are doing is amazing. They use all data points which don’t discriminate against parties. It’s math. They also have a YouTube channel and are on substack. All of the data is reviewable and peer reviewed.

Irish_Dem

(71,638 posts)
15. Yes. His goal was to make her fold and run.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:46 PM
6 hrs ago

But she fought back and that means she would show her data in open court.

I saw her speak in the weeks leading up to the election and was impressed
with her research design and methodology.

Once researchers see the data and polling specifics the truth will be out there for
all to see.

I also believe her data will show how Trump cheated, how he manipulated the votes,
and exactly where and what he did.

angryxyouth

(259 posts)
17. I think you're right
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 06:03 PM
5 hrs ago

It is all going to come out. Some of the people doing the analysis are saying there appears to consistency between how the data looks on graphs through all the states they have now analyzed. It also seems consistent with elections and other countries. The graphs seemed the show what they are calling a Russian tail because it’s consistent with the graphs first seen in Russian elections. The graph should look like a standard Bell curve, but they don’t they peak at the end among other things.

Irish_Dem

(71,638 posts)
19. Yes today they have very sophisticated computer analysis of research data.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 06:13 PM
5 hrs ago

The tools are amazing.

The research designs and analysis are so sophisticated that older PhDs like myself
are not even sure what we are looking at!

I am sure they can start comparing prior data with the Trump data
and the differences and oddities will pop out.

If the data looks like Russia election data, and we are seeing very
odd low probability configuration, we are then putting together the crime scene data.

angryxyouth

(259 posts)
23. I would be interested in knowing
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 11:08 PM
52 min ago

What you think about the information in the links that I provided. On the electiontruthalliance facebook site they walk you through the many types of graphs.

?si=xZeE_jbQDBoid5a7
This link is the face of ETA on the MarkTompson podcast on youtube. If you skip to 12:10 time it takes you rite to the technical stuff.

reACTIONary

(6,527 posts)
20. I'm not sure I understand....
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 06:18 PM
5 hrs ago

.... How would a binary decision, basically a coin toss, show up as a "normal distribution"? I would think the graph would be two straight lines, one for trump, one for Haris. Maybe a blip for a libertarian or a green.

Do you have a link to these charts? I'm curious as to what they are graphing.

Midnight Writer

(24,277 posts)
22. Absolutely. Victims of these frivolous, meritless lawsuits should counter-sue.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 09:07 PM
2 hrs ago

This Administration has made it a standard practice to use the legal system to harass anyone who publicly disagrees with them.

It is past time that the Administration faces consequences for harassing people.

MLWR

(359 posts)
4. " Trump Drops Lawsuit Against Iowa Pollster Ann Selzer"
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:15 PM
7 hrs ago

He never should have filed it in the first place. I bet he was having trouble coming up with the way he was damaged by it.

onenote

(45,372 posts)
12. The dismissal isn't about discovery.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:44 PM
7 hrs ago

First, chances are the case would never get to discovery because the motion to dismiss would be granted. He punted not because he was afraid of discovery but because he thought he had a better chance of winning if the case was heard in state court, which is where he originally filed Indeed, he was still trying to get the case back to state court as recently as last month. When that effort was crushed by the federal judge hearing the case, he opted to dismiss -- without prejudice -- the federal action.

He may have a plan in mind where he can re-file in state court in a way that won't get bounced back to fedrtal court. Will it work? I don't think so and hope not, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if this isn't the end of his efforts.

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