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riversedge

(76,800 posts)
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 06:27 PM Jul 16

Furious Trump yells 'turn it off' as Oval Office event descends into chaos S

Source: msn




Story by Mataeo Smith • 1h • 3 min read


President Donald Trump lost his cool in the Oval Office Wednesday, appearing to furiously shout at his aides to "turn off" the live broadcast as the presser turned chaotic.

The incumbent's rage boiled over toward the end of a meeting with the Crown Prince of Bahrain in the Oval Office, during which he discussed a wide range of topics from trade to the economy to immigration. The latter seemed to get Trump, who has been given a terrifying new nickname, worked up as he fumed at the Biden administration for allowing "criminals and mental patients" to cross the border into the US.

The president appeared to stop abruptly to yell "turn it off" to an individual off screen. His face had visibly dropped into a grimace. It isn't exactly clear whom Trump was talking to, but a hand is seen moving in the corner seconds after he made the aggressive request. It comes after photos revealed Trump's severely swollen ankles, triggering major new health fears for the president..................


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On Wednesday, Trump tried to cast the documents, relating to the client list of disgraced financier and convicted child sex predator Jeffrey Epstein, as a hoax fueled by Democrats.........................









Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/furious-trump-yells-turn-it-off-as-oval-office-event-descends-into-chaos/ar-AA1IJtSo?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=e03c4a8272d3417bfe584060ecf61aa3&ei=15








Slingshot News 2h
'Biden Put Him In': Donald Trump Exposes His Mental Decline By Forgetting He Was The One Who Nominated Fed Chair Jerome Powell
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news/biden-put-him-in-donald-trump-exposes-his-mental-decline-by-forgetting-he-was-the-one-who-nominated-fed-chair-jerome-powell/vi-AA1IJ77t?ocid=msedgntp&t=27


During a bilateral meeting with the Crown Prince of Bahrain today, Donald Trump lashed out at Fed Chair Jerome Powell again. "I was surprised he was appointed," Trump stated, seemingly unaware that he was the one who nominated him in the first place.
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Furious Trump yells 'turn it off' as Oval Office event descends into chaos S (Original Post) riversedge Jul 16 OP
Not frustrated enough, gotta kick it up, peeps Scott Alan Swaggerty Jul 16 #1
Grossly swollen ankles. Trump. Captain Zero Jul 16 #3
The part that tickles me Grokenstein Jul 16 #6
heart failure? WhiteTara Jul 16 #52
Kidney disease is also a possibility Deminpenn Jul 17 #72
Actually, barbtries Jul 17 #84
Ozempic primary use has been to treat diabetes Miguelito Loveless Jul 17 #95
Doubt he's taking Ozempic. He's not losing any weight. Other possibilities: emulatorloo Jul 17 #101
He's overweight, elderly, & has a poor diet. Dulcinea Jul 17 #77
Congestive heart failure? RVN VET71 Jul 17 #93
Would gout make for swollen ankles? Bengus81 Jul 17 #88
From the Mayo Clinic Miguelito Loveless Jul 17 #96
That was my mother's guess yesterday. Mike 03 Jul 17 #107
"Major new health fears ." No, for me, that's nilram Jul 16 #61
Both hands are swollen,one has a funny round spot in it.... Bengus81 Jul 17 #89
100% agree... those are all POSITIVE signs of an imminent demise! Moostache Jul 17 #102
I'm in RED Kansas and I think there will fireworks going off, car horns honking,hand held air horns etc,etc Bengus81 Jul 17 #114
Anybody got pictures? hildegaard28 Jul 17 #73
Picture of ankles kkmarie Jul 17 #74
Biden's ankles, Trump's ankles...enjoy sop Jul 17 #85
You can fucking tell by the activity "who is who". Orange Bastard couldn't stoop to pick up jack shit. SoFlaBro Jul 17 #109
Maybe a Nobel Prize GopherGal Jul 17 #112
That child-raping Orange Motherfucker couldn't stoop down to pick up a fire hose if his bad body was on fucking fire. SoFlaBro Jul 18 #116
There's only one picture I want to see. mwb970 Jul 17 #92
Welcome to DU Marthe48 Jul 16 #4
Welcome to our DU family. niyad Jul 16 #16
i agree. hes gotta have a floating bloosclot somewhere...!! samnsara Jul 17 #82
This is BAD NEWS for Trump, good news for the rest of the nation AverageOldGuy Jul 16 #2
I heard it's a sign of bubonic plague. Pinback Jul 16 #20
trump IS a plague! nt orleans Jul 16 #27
You beat me to it. 3catwoman3 Jul 16 #29
GM do indeed TA! 😁 ShazzieB Jul 17 #108
I think this is a case of horses vs. zebras. (Please see disclaimer below.) ShazzieB Jul 17 #70
Pretty sure it was a joke nt róisín_dubh Jul 17 #71
Yup, thanks. (nt) Pinback Jul 17 #105
Well, I think this is a great example of how esy it is to misunderstand (and be misunderstood) on tne internet! ShazzieB Jul 17 #110
Didn't think I needed the Sarcasm tag. Pinback Jul 17 #104
Yes, I see that now! ShazzieB Jul 17 #111
No problem, and thanks! Pinback Jul 17 #115
I pick November 13th. NoMoreRepugs Jul 16 #46
Shouldn't he be wearing compression socks? I thought that's what they were invented for FakeNoose Jul 16 #58
Shhhhhhhh. Dem2theMax Jul 16 #69
But, then we get Vance. Wonder if he agrees that immigrants poison America's blood? Norrrm Jul 17 #83
He'll agree with whatever Thiel tells him ... Ursus Rex Jul 17 #106
I have heart failure and lymphademia Oppaloopa Jul 16 #5
I'm so sorry Wicked Blue Jul 16 #14
Sorry to hear that. LoisB Jul 16 #25
I'm sorry for your diagnosis and the condition. AllyCat Jul 16 #32
Very sorry. And I hope you can take good care of yourself. vanlassie Jul 16 #41
Me too. It's pretty common unfortunately. Arthritis can lead to inactivity... erronis Jul 16 #51
There should be video, right? IcyPeas Jul 16 #7
Yes!!!! Where is the video and why isn't it all over the news????!!!!! hamsterjill Jul 16 #49
See post #26 below. It didn't happen. IcyPeas Jul 16 #55
That's what I was worried about. hamsterjill Jul 16 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author DUMember24 Jul 17 #79
Who are you going to believe; your own eyes, or what you're told on DU? mahatmakanejeeves Jul 17 #81
Most of those recs are for Trump's health issues,not the "turn it off" part of the vid and story Bengus81 Jul 17 #90
What a day of rejoicing THAT will be.... paleotn Jul 16 #8
Unfortunately... regnaD kciN Jul 16 #68
Not without whatever Trump has paleotn Jul 18 #117
Rage monster angrychair Jul 16 #9
Along with an equally unhinged stroke out too! Mr. Evil Jul 16 #50
I was curious about the "terrifying new nickname", so I clicked on the link. tanyev Jul 16 #10
Is the Irish Star credible? They were the only ones who printed a story about chained prisoners washing up on a beach... live love laugh Jul 16 #13
I don't know, but the person or bot who wrote the MSN article really has the wrong end of the stick. tanyev Jul 16 #15
No, not a reputable site. Miguelito Loveless Jul 17 #97
Thank you for the info - I was wondering about that myself. Marie Marie Jul 16 #67
Congestive heart disease, probably. ananda Jul 16 #11
I'm hoping and praying BaronChocula Jul 16 #12
...for hours and hours..... lastlib Jul 16 #18
I'll crack a bottle of champagne and make some popcorn 🍿! AllyCat Jul 16 #35
Bring it to my house, we'll watch the video. lastlib Jul 16 #59
Swollen ankles could also be from blood pressure meds. Katinfl Jul 16 #17
I have one swollen ankle. llmart Jul 16 #21
mom and sisters retained fluids in legs . so on flursimede my self. AllaN01Bear Jul 16 #28
I suspect that most Americans, most of the people in the world Dan Jul 16 #19
Yesterday would be good. AllyCat Jul 16 #36
Better would have been 80 years ago when dear mommy flushed fred's gift down the drain. erronis Jul 16 #53
I'd prefer something appropriately slow and painful JoseBalow Jul 16 #47
He's done. mwb970 Jul 16 #22
Evil and demented. Scary, people, very scary. Joinfortmill Jul 16 #23
He's on the edge. BidenRocks Jul 16 #24
No such thing happened. This is disinformation. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 16 #26
omg. 29 minutes! thanks for checking and watching so we don't have to nt orleans Jul 16 #31
You're right. This is complete bullshit JoseBalow Jul 16 #48
Is alerting on the OP perhaps the correct thing to do? erronis Jul 16 #54
I watched the video at lunch at 1.5x playback speed. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 16 #57
111 recs That's why clickbait exists GusBob Jul 16 #62
Thank you. IcyPeas Jul 16 #56
Thank you!!! I caught earlier parts of this "meeting" missed the end, the Irish Star is a tabloid paper owned by ... cliffside Jul 16 #64
Thanks for letting us know kkmarie Jul 17 #75
thank you! raccoon Jul 17 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author DUMember24 Jul 17 #80
Thank you. Woodwizard Jul 17 #87
Yes, it appears he simply asks that "it" be turned off, before calmly proceeding with his usual shocking lies SorellaLaBefana Jul 17 #94
Turn what off? His vibrating butt-plug? Dave Bowman Jul 16 #30
Ewww AllyCat Jul 16 #38
This is pretty bad. I hope gets an appointment with a dr. soon. I'm thinking Dr bluestarone Jul 16 #33
Well, well, well. Swollen ankles and discolored and briused right hand. I'd say a cardiac event is possible soon. brush Jul 16 #34
Health fears? More like ... Oh, never mind. imaginary girl Jul 16 #37
Haha. Yes new hope! SheltieLover Jul 16 #40
major new health fears or new hope? SheltieLover Jul 16 #39
temper, temper.... electric_blue68 Jul 16 #42
Hey, TACO Donnie, "asylum seekers" doesn't mean "mental patients" JHB Jul 16 #43
I don't see him as much of a water drinker The Madcap Jul 16 #44
If it's a hoax DownriverDem Jul 16 #45
Presidente "Chub Rub" Nefos1 Jul 16 #63
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jul 17 #103
Las Vegas Death Watch ? tonekat Jul 16 #65
"....triggering major new health fears for the president.." MorbidButterflyTat Jul 16 #66
Trump will die in office. He's in very poor health... mental and physical. The stress is getting to him * Oopsie Daisy Jul 17 #78
Buy your galoshes now. The line to piss on his grave will be long. And wet. Vinca Jul 17 #86
I'm rooting for the Grim Reaper, and I've been saying it all along FakeNoose Jul 17 #98
They say his ankle issue "triggered major new health fears". mwb970 Jul 17 #91
"Health fears"? Aristus Jul 17 #99
It's not so much that his ankles or swollen, it's that they changed localroger Jul 17 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author Deminpenn Jul 17 #113

Captain Zero

(8,180 posts)
3. Grossly swollen ankles. Trump.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 06:38 PM
Jul 16

Spread the word. Swollen Ankles!

Why are they concerned about Biden health now?

Trump has huge swollen ankles and he is president NOW.

Grokenstein

(6,082 posts)
6. The part that tickles me
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 06:47 PM
Jul 16

is that rightwank scumbag cartoonist Ben Garrison was labelling Hillary Clinton as "Cankles" while depicting krasnov as a golden Adonis. You know, to "own" us. He's gotta be going through some things now. (He famously has to label everything in his scribbles because he sucks as an artist.)

Deminpenn

(16,933 posts)
72. Kidney disease is also a possibility
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:10 AM
Jul 17

Kidney problems are a known side effect of GLP1s (Ozempic, etc) which, iirc, it has been reported that Trump has been taking. If he had a competent WH doc, he'd be getting blood work, EKGs and kidney imaging. done to determine the cause.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,107 posts)
95. Ozempic primary use has been to treat diabetes
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 10:38 AM
Jul 17

which certainly helps, not hinders kidney function. My money is on congestive heart failure.

emulatorloo

(46,073 posts)
101. Doubt he's taking Ozempic. He's not losing any weight. Other possibilities:
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 12:15 PM
Jul 17

As others have mentioned kidney problems from Ozempic are pretty rare.

Several possibilities From Mayo Clinic article cited already:

Causes

Edema occurs when tiny blood vessels in the body, also known as capillaries, leak fluid. The fluid builds up in nearby tissues. The leak leads to swelling.

Causes of mild cases of edema include:

Sitting or staying in one position for too long.
Eating too much salty food.
Being premenstrual.
Being pregnant.
Edema also can be a side effect of some medicines. These include:

High blood pressure medicines.
Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medicines.
Steroid medicines.
Estrogens.
Certain diabetes medicines called thiazolidinediones.
Medicines use to treat nerve pain.

Sometimes edema can be a sign of a more serious condition. Illnesses that can cause edema include:

Congestive heart failure. Congestive heart failure causes one or both of the heart's lower chambers stop pumping blood well. As a result, blood can back up in the legs, ankles and feet, causing edema.

Congestive heart failure can also cause swelling in the stomach area. This condition also can cause fluid to build up in the lungs. Known as pulmonary edema, this can lead to shortness of breath.

Liver damage. This liver damage from cirrhosis can cause fluid to build up in the stomach area. and in the legs. This fluid buildup in the stomach area is known as ascites.

Kidney disease. Kidney disease can cause fluid and salts in the blood to build up. Edema linked to kidney disease usually occurs in the legs and around the eyes.

Kidney damage. Damage to the tiny, filtering blood vessels in the kidneys can result in nephrotic syndrome. In nephrotic syndrome, decreased levels of protein in the blood can lead to edema.

Weakness or damage to veins in your legs. This condition, known as chronic venous insufficiency, harms the one-way valves in the leg. One-way valves keep blood flowing in one direction. Damage to the valves allows blood to pool in the leg veins and causes swelling.

Deep vein thrombosis, also called DVT. Sudden swelling in one leg with pain in the calf muscle can be due to a blood clot in one of the leg veins. DVT requires medical help right away.

Problems with the system in the body that clears extra fluid from tissues. If the body's lymphatic system is damaged, such as by cancer surgery, the lymphatic system might not drain well.

Severe, long-term lack of protein. An extreme lack of protein in the diet over time can lead to edema.


https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/edema/symptoms-causes/syc-20366493

Dulcinea

(8,795 posts)
77. He's overweight, elderly, & has a poor diet.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:31 AM
Jul 17

Last edited Thu Jul 17, 2025, 11:16 AM - Edit history (1)

That contributes to edema. Edema is also a symptom of congestive heart failure.

Bengus81

(9,079 posts)
89. Both hands are swollen,one has a funny round spot in it....
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 07:42 AM
Jul 17

Gosh....I hope none of these latest health issues would cause you to DIE Trump.

Moostache

(10,705 posts)
102. 100% agree... those are all POSITIVE signs of an imminent demise!
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 12:24 PM
Jul 17

That fucker dying is going to be like VJ day for me... I am going to party like its 1999 again and I will have a 3 day hangover with the biggest grin of my life afterward. I am predicting that my face is going to hurt from smiling so long and so deeply when I hear the blessed words: "Trump found dead".

Bengus81

(9,079 posts)
114. I'm in RED Kansas and I think there will fireworks going off, car horns honking,hand held air horns etc,etc
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:19 PM
Jul 17

when that POS kicks the bucket.


Make it SOON ok Trump?!?!?

hildegaard28

(610 posts)
73. Anybody got pictures?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:14 AM
Jul 17

I want to see pictures. That’s glorious news if it’s true. It won’t be long if his limbs are severely swollen.

SoFlaBro

(3,581 posts)
109. You can fucking tell by the activity "who is who". Orange Bastard couldn't stoop to pick up jack shit.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:45 PM
Jul 17

SoFlaBro

(3,581 posts)
116. That child-raping Orange Motherfucker couldn't stoop down to pick up a fire hose if his bad body was on fucking fire.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 12:59 PM
Jul 18

AverageOldGuy

(2,783 posts)
2. This is BAD NEWS for Trump, good news for the rest of the nation
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 06:38 PM
Jul 16

This is not good news for Trump but is very good news for the nation.

President Donald Trump lost his cool in the Oval Office Wednesday, appearing to furiously shout at his aides to "turn off" the live broadcast as the presser turned chaotic.

smip

. . . . It comes after photos revealed Trump's severely swollen ankles, triggering major new health fears for the president..................


At Trump's age, severely swollen ankles – and likely similarly swollen lower legs and feet – are a sign of congestive heart failure related lymphedema in which the heart is not strong enough to move blood from the lower legs to the rest of the body. This causes excess fluid, including blood, to build up in the lower legs. The area will appear swollen and blotchy red, then will turn blotchy dark blue as though it is bruised and will remain always noticeably swollen. At that point the patient is looking at heart failure because the heart muscle can no longer sustain the level of work needed to continue to circulate through the lower legs. Medication can provide some relief, but, when the swollen area is constant medication does little.

The DUer who asks daily "Is he dead yet?" may soon get the answer we've all been waiting for.

Pinback

(13,339 posts)
20. I heard it's a sign of bubonic plague.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:32 PM
Jul 16

Don’t ask me, I’m no doctor, but some very smart people are saying Trump has Plague.

ShazzieB

(21,209 posts)
108. GM do indeed TA! 😁
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:01 PM
Jul 17

It just seemed really wild to me that anyone would reach for such an exotic and unlikely explanation for something that just ... doesn't need one. At all.


ShazzieB

(21,209 posts)
70. I think this is a case of horses vs. zebras. (Please see disclaimer below.)
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 01:41 AM
Jul 17

Last edited Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:32 PM - Edit history (2)

DISCLAIMER: I have now been informed that Pinback was making a joke, and it appears that the joke was on ME! .I'm going to leave this reply up for the benefit of any other literal minded souls who might miss the sarcasm!

You know the old saying about hearing hoof beats and expecting to see horses rather than zebras? I think that applies here.

Plague is extremely rare in the U.S. According to the CDC, an average of only 7 cases a year are reported in this country, mostly in the southwest. (Source: https://www.cdc.gov/plague/maps-statistics/index.html)

Congestive heart failure, otoh is quite common, especially in older folks. The CDC says that In the United States, nearly 6.7 million adults 20 years old or older have heart failure. (Source: https://www.cdc.gov/heart-disease/about/heart-failure.html)

If we think of Trump's symptoms as hoof beats, I think it's much more likely that they're coming from congestive heart failure (horses in this analogy) than from a vanishingly rare disease like plague (zebras). I don't know who these smart people are who are theorizing about him having plague, but it really sounds like a stretch to me.

ShazzieB

(21,209 posts)
110. Well, I think this is a great example of how esy it is to misunderstand (and be misunderstood) on tne internet!
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:21 PM
Jul 17

The lack of cues like facial expression and tone of voice can easily lead to misinterpretation.

Rereading the post now, I can see clues to it being a joke (like mocking Schlump's use of "many people are saying&quot . But that did not jump out at me last night. I just thought, "Whoa, if there's a rumor like that floating around, it really needs to be nipped in the bud" and reached for my pruning shears.

I'm actually relieved to know that there actually isn't a rumor like that floating around the internet, but I'm going to leave my reply up, for the benefit of anyone else who reacts to the "joke" the way I did.

Pinback

(13,339 posts)
104. Didn't think I needed the Sarcasm tag.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 01:40 PM
Jul 17

This was posted sarcastically to lampoon the spirit of wild speculation that too often inflames the internet.

Of course congestive heart failure is vastly more likely than bubonic plague or many other maladies. Then again, if a “Trump has plague” rumor were to materialize, I wouldn’t dissuade his cult from believing it.

But the post was intended as satire and nothing more.

ShazzieB

(21,209 posts)
111. Yes, I see that now!
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:24 PM
Jul 17

It was an honest misunderstanding on my part, and I apologize.

I am going to leave my comment up for the benefit of anyone who who might miss the sarcasm the way I did, but I will add a disclaimer to it.

Pinback

(13,339 posts)
115. No problem, and thanks!
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 08:28 PM
Jul 17

We’re all a little tense these days, so it’s to misinterpret a poster’s intent. Thanks for responding.

FakeNoose

(38,026 posts)
58. Shouldn't he be wearing compression socks? I thought that's what they were invented for
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 09:37 PM
Jul 16

Compression socks are high knee socks that are made of spandex-type material that gently evens out the pressure up and down the legs so that there aren't lumpy, uneven areas of swelling like regular socks can give you.

Norrrm

(2,536 posts)
83. But, then we get Vance. Wonder if he agrees that immigrants poison America's blood?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 07:28 AM
Jul 17

It's mighty nice of him to take care of 'his wife's kids'.

Ursus Rex

(408 posts)
106. He'll agree with whatever Thiel tells him ...
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 01:48 PM
Jul 17

... until that one time when he tries to strike out on his own, at which time he will be brought back to heel.

AllyCat

(18,092 posts)
32. I'm sorry for your diagnosis and the condition.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 08:01 PM
Jul 16

Hope you are staying as healthy as possible.

erronis

(20,758 posts)
51. Me too. It's pretty common unfortunately. Arthritis can lead to inactivity...
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 09:13 PM
Jul 16

It's a cascade of problems that happen with life and aging.

Everyone that mocks people with swollen ankles will eventually join the crowd, if they don't keel over from something else first.

hamsterjill

(16,152 posts)
49. Yes!!!! Where is the video and why isn't it all over the news????!!!!!
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 09:06 PM
Jul 16

Good grief. The cover that the press gives him is unreal.

hamsterjill

(16,152 posts)
60. That's what I was worried about.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 09:52 PM
Jul 16

When it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Damn it!!!!

Response to hamsterjill (Reply #49)

mahatmakanejeeves

(65,909 posts)
81. Who are you going to believe; your own eyes, or what you're told on DU?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:53 AM
Jul 17

LBN has turned into the Karoline Leavitt of DU.

142 recommendations for a complete fabrication.

And good morning anyway.

Bengus81

(9,079 posts)
90. Most of those recs are for Trump's health issues,not the "turn it off" part of the vid and story
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 07:49 AM
Jul 17

regnaD kciN

(27,199 posts)
68. Unfortunately...
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:20 PM
Jul 16

...while he may be gone, the machine he, Leonard Leo, and the Heritage Foundation put together will continue operating like clockwork.

paleotn

(20,648 posts)
117. Not without whatever Trump has
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:22 PM
Jul 18

Some kind of weird anti-charisma the proles can’t get enough of. Repukes have been trying to reproduce it and have so far failed miserably. See Ron DeSantis. And the fake hillbilly? Please. What ever it is, it dies with him.

angrychair

(10,920 posts)
9. Rage monster
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 06:50 PM
Jul 16

So close to hulking it out. Let's go. Really would love for him to have an unhinged freak out on live TV.

tanyev

(47,281 posts)
10. I was curious about the "terrifying new nickname", so I clicked on the link.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 06:53 PM
Jul 16

That wording in the MSN article led to an Irish Star article titled thusly:

Iran gives Trump a new nickname in terrifying 8-word threat after US attacks nuclear sites

and the “terrifying 8-word threat” is:

Speaking in English, Zolfaghari issued a chilling warning directly to the US president, saying: "Mr Trump, the gambler! You may start this war - but we will be the ones to finish it!"


Maybe terrifying doesn’t mean what I think it means.

live love laugh

(15,687 posts)
13. Is the Irish Star credible? They were the only ones who printed a story about chained prisoners washing up on a beach...
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:03 PM
Jul 16

It seems like they’re the foreign equivalent of the National Enquirer.

tanyev

(47,281 posts)
15. I don't know, but the person or bot who wrote the MSN article really has the wrong end of the stick.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:11 PM
Jul 16

Marie Marie

(10,375 posts)
67. Thank you for the info - I was wondering about that myself.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:12 PM
Jul 16

I find his 9 letter nickname more terrifying than anything - president. That scares the shit out of me.

BaronChocula

(3,036 posts)
12. I'm hoping and praying
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:02 PM
Jul 16

that somewhere in the darkness
the gambler, he breaks even
writhing in pain and gasping for his breaths of air

lastlib

(26,375 posts)
18. ...for hours and hours.....
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:21 PM
Jul 16

...before he lays his cards down for good.

If there's a video of that, I will play it on continuous loop for a couple of weeks. I want that video.

lastlib

(26,375 posts)
59. Bring it to my house, we'll watch the video.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 09:49 PM
Jul 16

I'll provide an extra bottle and glasses. And Cheese & crackers!

Katinfl

(440 posts)
17. Swollen ankles could also be from blood pressure meds.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:14 PM
Jul 16

Very common symptom. I just went on blood pressure meds and the first thing was the ankles, not to worry. Of course, in his case let’s hope for congestive heart failure.

llmart

(16,664 posts)
21. I have one swollen ankle.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:34 PM
Jul 16

I stretched a ligament on the left side of my knee several years ago and there's a large spider vein there. An MRI showed some arthritis under my kneecap and the leg will swell but only from the knee down to the ankle. It subsides when I don't stand on my feet all day and if I put it up when sitting. The other leg is fine. My problem is that I've never been one who is a sitter. I am not and have never been overweight and I've been active my entire life and still am. I have regular to low blood pressure and have my entire life and I take no meds. I'm 76.

Dan

(4,851 posts)
19. I suspect that most Americans, most of the people in the world
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:23 PM
Jul 16

Just want him to die, don’t care how but definitely soon.

erronis

(20,758 posts)
53. Better would have been 80 years ago when dear mommy flushed fred's gift down the drain.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 09:17 PM
Jul 16

JoseBalow

(8,023 posts)
47. I'd prefer something appropriately slow and painful
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 08:48 PM
Jul 16

But I realize that karma isn't real, so any means to that end will do.

BidenRocks

(1,886 posts)
24. He's on the edge.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:41 PM
Jul 16

We need people to push him over.

What's wrong Chump?
Vlad got your tongue!?
You are worse than Biden! (sorry)
Drop and give me five pushups lardass! Oh, you can't!

That should get the stroke/heart attack started!
Die motherfucker!

mahatmakanejeeves

(65,909 posts)
26. No such thing happened. This is disinformation.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:48 PM
Jul 16

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I sat through the video. I got the impression that someone’s phone was ringing; something like that. It’s possible that Trump was signaling to a staffer that he wanted the meeting to end, but that’s not how I interpreted his request. I can’t be sure, because he was talking to someone off-camera.

In either case, Trump says, “Turn it off, please.” That’s all. There was no descent into chaos. Trump spoke calmly, for once. See for yourself. This happens at 28:01 in, or 1:08 from the end.

JoseBalow

(8,023 posts)
48. You're right. This is complete bullshit
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 08:56 PM
Jul 16

Something like a phone makes some sound, and he asks them to turn it off, please. That's it.

This is pure clickbait bullshit, should never have been posted here. OP should delete this garbage.

Thanks for posting the video.

mahatmakanejeeves

(65,909 posts)
57. I watched the video at lunch at 1.5x playback speed.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 09:37 PM
Jul 16

I remembered his making the remark close to the end. I thought at the time he was asking someone to silence a phone.

There’s an entire forum at DU that is largely clickbait. People seem to like it. It’s getting to be a feature, not a bug.

GusBob

(7,935 posts)
62. 111 recs That's why clickbait exists
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 10:23 PM
Jul 16

Rubes will believe anything on socials and any lies ,that is how he got elected

cliffside

(1,129 posts)
64. Thank you!!! I caught earlier parts of this "meeting" missed the end, the Irish Star is a tabloid paper owned by ...
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 10:34 PM
Jul 16

Reach plc.

This should be deleted from LBN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reach_plc

"The Irish Daily Star (formerly known simply as The Star) is a tabloid newspaper published in Ireland by Reach plc,[5] which owns the British Daily Star."

https://www.londonstockexchange.com/stock/RCH/reach-plc/company-page

kkmarie

(280 posts)
75. Thanks for letting us know
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:39 AM
Jul 17

I read the article on msn, before coming here to DU this morning.
I was shocked at the reporting,since it cut Krasnov no slack and called him out. I thought this must be the Onion. But I guess an Irish tabloid is much the same. Imagine someone in another country wants to make the current regime look batshit crazy.

It's not proper that we spread fake news we should always seek the truth, right? Asking for a friend

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #26)

Woodwizard

(1,189 posts)
87. Thank you.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 07:33 AM
Jul 17

It is unfortunate that so much histrionic clickbait has to be posted, when plenty of real issues are not payed attention to.

Maybe it's me be it seems the last few years there has been a LOT more of it posted on here.

Especially the video section.

SorellaLaBefana

(398 posts)
94. Yes, it appears he simply asks that "it" be turned off, before calmly proceeding with his usual shocking lies
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 09:40 AM
Jul 17

for example, [to paraphrase what i recall, as certainly not going to listen to the Dementor again] something along the lines of: a year ago we were a dead county, burning up, and i've fixed it all

Well. Do agree with him/it a year ago we are Burning Up. However, we are still—literally and figuratively—burning up because of his support for the lies of the extractive energy companies and his war against liberal America and common human decency.

bluestarone

(19,997 posts)
33. This is pretty bad. I hope gets an appointment with a dr. soon. I'm thinking Dr
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 08:01 PM
Jul 16

Kennedy JR. would be the BEST one!!

brush

(60,748 posts)
34. Well, well, well. Swollen ankles and discolored and briused right hand. I'd say a cardiac event is possible soon.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 08:01 PM
Jul 16

Just Big Macs and KFC aren't good for diet. And the WH has professional chefs available for his every whim...unless he fired them.

The Madcap

(1,342 posts)
44. I don't see him as much of a water drinker
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 08:31 PM
Jul 16

Or a walker. That swelling might just be the congealed fat from all those Big Macs.

MorbidButterflyTat

(3,375 posts)
66. "....triggering major new health fears for the president.."
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 10:53 PM
Jul 16


The only fear I have is that it won't be fatal enough.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,248 posts)
78. Trump will die in office. He's in very poor health... mental and physical. The stress is getting to him *
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:11 AM
Jul 17

* good. (But would Vance be any better or worse, or more of the same?)

FakeNoose

(38,026 posts)
98. I'm rooting for the Grim Reaper, and I've been saying it all along
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 10:53 AM
Jul 17

I agree with you, he looks and sounds so completely unhealthy. Plus the fact that he never listens to anybody telling him what's good for him. I'm sure that includes doctors and other health-care specialists.

mwb970

(11,889 posts)
91. They say his ankle issue "triggered major new health fears".
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 08:25 AM
Jul 17

The correct phrase is "triggered major new hope".

Aristus

(70,489 posts)
99. "Health fears"?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jul 17

To me they're health hopes. The sooner he bites the big one, the better for everyone; including his deluded followers, who are, of course, too demented to understand that.

localroger

(3,771 posts)
100. It's not so much that his ankles or swollen, it's that they changed
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 12:06 PM
Jul 17

Edema is a common problem. I have it thanks to liver disease. (Non life threatening at the moment.) As others have pointed out lots of other problems can cause it. You can have swelling in your feet and legs for years and it's just a cosmetic issue. The problem is that it changed, and drastically, over a short period of time. His ankles weren't this swollen a couple of months ago. That's not deterioration, that's something acute developing. Again there are lots of possibilities but considering the magnitude of the change I'd put congestive heart failure at the top of the to-check list.

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