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Polybius

(21,248 posts)
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 01:28 AM 11 hrs ago

Pope removes shoes but doesn't pray on visit to Istanbul's Blue Mosque

Source: Reuters

ISTANBUL, Nov 29 (Reuters) - Pope Leo visited Istanbul's Blue Mosque on Saturday, removing his shoes in a sign of respect but not appearing to pray in his first visit as leader of the Catholic Church to a Muslim place of worship during his four-day visit to Turkey.

The first U.S. pope bowed slightly before entering the mosque and was led on a tour of the expansive complex, able to hold 10,000 worshippers, by its imam and the mufti of Istanbul.

Leo, walking in white socks, smiled during the 20-minute visit and joked with one of his guides, the mosque's lead muezzin - the official who leads the daily calls to prayer.

The Vatican appeared surprised that Leo had not stopped to pray during the visit and that he had not been welcomed to the mosque by the head of Turkey's state-run religious organisation, known as the diyanet, as had been planned.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/pope-removes-shoes-doesnt-pray-visit-istanbuls-blue-mosque-2025-11-29/

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muriel_volestrangler

(105,308 posts)
5. His precedessors did, and the Vatican press release had expected him to
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 05:53 AM
7 hrs ago

From the BBC report:

The Pontiff was seen bowing as he entered the building, but it is reported he did not pray at the mosque, as his two predecessors had done.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gp917zr8no

From Reuters:

The Vatican appeared surprised that Leo had not stopped to pray during the visit and that he had not been welcomed to the mosque by the head of Turkey's state-run religious organisation, known as the diyanet, as had been planned.

About three hours after the visit, the Vatican released a press statement saying both the prayer and the welcome had occurred, although they had not. The Vatican press office said the release had been sent in error.

Askin Musa Tunca, the muezzin, told journalists after the mosque visit that he asked Leo during the tour if he wished to pray for a moment, but the pope said he preferred to just visit the mosque.

Polybius

(21,248 posts)
14. Only in recent years
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 11:44 AM
1 hr ago

The only two to do it were Pope Francis in 2014, and Pope Benedict XVI in 2006. Perhaps he thought they were wrong to do so.

IbogaProject

(5,475 posts)
17. It said he wasn't invited to pray
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 11:59 AM
1 hr ago

So it may be more a reflection of the hosts than the Pope or his group.

ananda

(34,118 posts)
2. It was simply a gesture of love and respect...
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 03:30 AM
9 hrs ago

This reminds me of John Xxiii's ecumenical spirit.

Love

rampartd

(3,216 posts)
4. what i did not know : shoes of the fisherman
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 05:31 AM
7 hrs ago

if peter had fished in louisiana the popes would need a pair of white rubber shrimp boots.

leo wears black shoes,, as did francis.

benedict wore the traditional red shoes until his retirement, when he changed to black.

COL Mustard

(7,867 posts)
9. I think Peter DID fish in Louisiana.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 10:05 AM
3 hrs ago

After all, Cajun cuisine has the Holy Trinity, and if you've ever had crawdads and gumbo, you have probably had a religious experience. And don't get me going on the joys of a good Sazerac!

Mike Nelson

(10,860 posts)
6. "Not appearing to pray..."
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 06:04 AM
7 hrs ago

... seems like a better way to explain. He was likely praying frequently, to himself. The phrase that caught me eye was "Turkey's state-run" religion. Maybe the Pope didn't want to participate in that country's "state-run" religion?

truthisfreedom

(23,499 posts)
7. In the early 2000s I took off my shoes in the Blue Mosque
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 06:10 AM
6 hrs ago

and didn’t pray either, but then again, I’m an atheist.

MurrayDelph

(5,699 posts)
11. The only time I've been in a mosque, I didn't pray either
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 10:56 AM
2 hrs ago

It was in early 2017. President Miller had just issued his first Muslim ban. I went to Portland and brought cookies purchased from a Muslim bakery.

(and I lean more agnostic; until someone shows proof, I don't think there's a higher being, but I'm willing to give a looksee if the evidence is strong)

Joinfortmill

(19,683 posts)
8. The more interesting part for me was the diyanet did not meet with him.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 09:40 AM
3 hrs ago

There might be a story there, or not. But, interesting and notable.

twodogsbarking

(17,012 posts)
16. My two cents are in too. We are up to four. Believers are upset when confronted but non-believers are cast as being odd.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 11:51 AM
1 hr ago
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