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BumRushDaShow

(171,793 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 10:51 AM Apr 18

Trump greeted by empty seats at Arizona rally leaving supporters 'totally shocked': report

Source: Raw Story

April 18, 2026 7:36AM ET


Donald Trump's ability to pack arenas is evaporating.The president who once filled sports venues across the country couldn't even come close to filling a 4,500-seat Arizona church on Friday night, exposing the dramatic erosion of his political momentum.

According to the Washington Post, Trump was the featured speaker at a Turning Point USA rally in Phoenix at Dream City Church. Despite his boast earlier in the day on Truth Social about addressing a "BIG CROWD," the turnout was sparse and underwhelming.

The attendance numbers tell the story. A Turning Point USA spokeperson claimed only about 3,000 people attended — meaning the church was roughly two-thirds full at best. For a president who once commanded arena-sized audiences, the half-empty megachurch represents a stunning reversal.

The demographic breakdown was equally telling, reports the Post. The megachurch was supposed to be a venue for Trump to drum up support among young voters. Instead, he found an audience whose members skewed older and were focused on divisions within their own party. Even longtime supporters were shocked by the sparse crowd. One Trump voter, Diane Niemann, a retired dental hygienist, told the Post she was "was not planning to come to the Friday event until she saw there was hardly a line to get in." "I'm totally shocked," Niemann said.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-rally-flop/

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Trump greeted by empty seats at Arizona rally leaving supporters 'totally shocked': report (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 18 OP
Yes,.. totally shocked that everyone is sick of listening to this fabricating prevaricating liar. magicarpet Apr 18 #1
Well yes, but also ... they're no longer PAYING people to attend the MAGA rallies FakeNoose Apr 18 #42
THANK YOU Skittles Apr 18 #50
Totally shocked because she lives in a psychotic fantasy bubble. Irish_Dem Apr 18 #2
But the camera didn't capture a crowd of 30,000 waiting outside dalton99a Apr 18 #3
The dumbfucks needed 10 years to see what was obvious to us in 2016 Ponietz Apr 18 #4
Some of us knew DECADES before that what an asshole he was....... AZ8theist Apr 18 #56
There are SOME rightwing-supporting young people in AZ, but it was Friday night Attilatheblond Apr 18 #5
Or maybe they can no longer afford to put gas in the tanks. llmart Apr 18 #7
Some might be working on developing bone spurs too. Attilatheblond Apr 18 #14
Nice. K&R. ck4829 Apr 18 #6
Good. electric_blue68 Apr 18 #8
Wait..... SergeStorms Apr 18 #9
That shocked me as well Bayard Apr 18 #10
We can report them to the IRS I suppose. But Trump controls that. travelingthrulife Apr 18 #37
Was The Widow Erica What's-Her-Name there . . . AverageOldGuy Apr 18 #11
She is disgusting! enigmania Apr 18 #13
She ran off stage after announcing Trump Amethyst Ring Apr 18 #26
Thank Darwin the megachurch in my town lies in a very progressive county in a blue state. An Orange Julius Caesar generalbetrayus Apr 18 #12
If they said 3000, it's probably 1000. Scrivener7 Apr 18 #15
A photo or two would be nice. TheRickles Apr 18 #18
google "##### supporters show up for red wall event in Phoenix" niyad Apr 18 #22
Thanks. Creepy outside, but no good indoor views to see how big the crowd actually is. TheRickles Apr 18 #32
That was my guess. niyad Apr 18 #38
Sunno, church looks pretty full to me. 3Hotdogs Apr 18 #52
That link only had photos of people gathered outside. TheRickles Apr 18 #55
Or a video like the one at the TP event that was litterly empty last week Bengus81 Apr 18 #25
Yes, I saw that one. Which is why I was surprised/pleased to see that Trump drew a similar crowd. TheRickles Apr 18 #31
If you look at that jd video, there is no way there were 2,000 people there. niyad Apr 18 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Apr 18 #54
More like 300. niyad Apr 18 #21
This actually makes me smile more than most odins folly Apr 18 #16
Firts "4500 seat" churches scare the fuck out of me. 2nd, she didn't attend "because there was hardly a line" Cheezoholic Apr 18 #17
I think you misread. The woman quoted wasn't planning on going, until niyad Apr 18 #23
That Olsteen church in Houston seats over 16,000. Bengus81 Apr 18 #27
Yup. The one that slimy prick Olsteen refused to open up to hurricane victims. AZ8theist Apr 18 #57
But...but...they had just installed new carpet! What would Jesus do? Bengus81 Apr 19 #61
It would be a sin to have dirty brown and black people mess up the new carpet, right? AZ8theist Apr 19 #62
It's the tribe of stupid. paleotn Apr 18 #41
Awww...boo, hoo, hoo, hoo..... electric_blue68 Apr 18 #19
It's not like he was gonna say anything they never heard before Walleye Apr 18 #20
They acted like they were in 2024,walking out on his rallies early Bengus81 Apr 18 #28
For one, he had to compete against the Phoenix Suns SouthBayDem Apr 18 #24
If it was, indeed, 3,000 people, that's still 3,000 people when it should be no more than 30 at this point MIButterfly Apr 18 #29
Oh! Oh! I haz a sad! Grim Chieftain Apr 18 #30
Let me broad brush this. BidenRocks Apr 18 #33
That MAGAt is a special kind of stupid. RockRaven Apr 18 #34
Biden's Fault. twodogsbarking Apr 18 #35
How does this not violate their tax free status? travelingthrulife Apr 18 #36
exactly! niyad Apr 18 #40
They were all at Four Seasons Landscaping, with Rudy and Kash. A drunken bash. twodogsbarking Apr 18 #43
Seriously? Totally shocked? ananda Apr 18 #44
You made a typo. it should be "the half-empty magachurch". Wonder Why Apr 18 #45
With BumRushDaShow Apr 18 #46
"Church" my Democratic Cha Apr 18 #47
Imagine deliberately showing up, in person, to a "rally" headlined by a child rapist* like flvegan Apr 18 #48
3000 in attendance, huh? Wednesdays Apr 18 #49
I hate seeing young people there. IcyPeas Apr 18 #51
I thought about moving to AZ RainCaster Apr 18 #53
Promises made, promises broken will do that. Aussie105 Apr 18 #58
Maybe Trump still believes his own myths about Arizona and the stolen victory of the 2020 election DFW Apr 19 #59
It's finally LilElf70 Apr 19 #60

magicarpet

(19,305 posts)
1. Yes,.. totally shocked that everyone is sick of listening to this fabricating prevaricating liar.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 11:00 AM
Apr 18

Except the hardcore MAGA Meatheads.

FakeNoose

(42,240 posts)
42. Well yes, but also ... they're no longer PAYING people to attend the MAGA rallies
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 02:37 PM
Apr 18

It's just a guess, but doesn't it look like THAT was the reason for all the people coming before his election?
They showed up to get paid, and then they left. Now they aren't even showing up.

And people are surprised?

Skittles

(172,638 posts)
50. THANK YOU
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 04:55 PM
Apr 18

JFC, why would anyone have to GO ANYWHERE to see and hear him, he's in our face EVERY FUCKING DAY

Attilatheblond

(9,184 posts)
5. There are SOME rightwing-supporting young people in AZ, but it was Friday night
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 11:19 AM
Apr 18

Whoever planned this shindig didn't think several things thru.

Also, there was a recall of a lot of F150 pickup trucks, so some of those baby boyz might have been without wheels.

SergeStorms

(20,788 posts)
9. Wait.....
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 11:35 AM
Apr 18

A 4,500 seat freaking church! And they're hosting a partisan political rally? WTF!

It's past the point where these "christian" nationalists should have their tax-exempt status revoked.

This is freaking sickening!

Bayard

(30,163 posts)
10. That shocked me as well
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 11:48 AM
Apr 18

That's a stadium--not a church. No way they should be tax-exempt. Wonder what they charged to get into this event? Maybe the crowd thought he would show up as Jesus.

travelingthrulife

(5,510 posts)
37. We can report them to the IRS I suppose. But Trump controls that.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:52 PM
Apr 18

We need to expand the IRS again so they can go after these religious violations of their tax status.

AverageOldGuy

(4,119 posts)
11. Was The Widow Erica What's-Her-Name there . . .
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 11:52 AM
Apr 18

. . . in her skin-tight widow's leather pants, stiletto heels, and see-through blouse?

generalbetrayus

(1,962 posts)
12. Thank Darwin the megachurch in my town lies in a very progressive county in a blue state. An Orange Julius Caesar
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 11:54 AM
Apr 18

appearance at our megachurch would have 50 times the number of people outside hurling epithets than the number of people inside praising their Lord and Savior Donald Trump.

niyad

(133,783 posts)
22. google "##### supporters show up for red wall event in Phoenix"
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:01 PM
Apr 18

on the AZ central web page. 24 images. creeeeepy.

TheRickles

(3,500 posts)
32. Thanks. Creepy outside, but no good indoor views to see how big the crowd actually is.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:32 PM
Apr 18

Which I suppose suggests that it was a small crowd, too embarrassing to show.

TheRickles

(3,500 posts)
55. That link only had photos of people gathered outside.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 09:54 PM
Apr 18

Please share if you have a link with photos showing the crowd inside the church. Thanks.

Bengus81

(10,340 posts)
25. Or a video like the one at the TP event that was litterly empty last week
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:14 PM
Apr 18

So empty that grifter Kirk left JD to BS the few people.

TheRickles

(3,500 posts)
31. Yes, I saw that one. Which is why I was surprised/pleased to see that Trump drew a similar crowd.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:29 PM
Apr 18

niyad

(133,783 posts)
39. If you look at that jd video, there is no way there were 2,000 people there.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 02:11 PM
Apr 18

Barely 200, more like.

Response to TheRickles (Reply #18)

odins folly

(630 posts)
16. This actually makes me smile more than most
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 12:21 PM
Apr 18

We went to see Bruce on Thursday night, downtown Phoenix, venue has a 12k+ seating for concerts, can’t find out how many seats were sold but it looked packed from where we were. Didn’t see or hear any negative voices for his message, so that then the dismal turnout for the hitler youth turning point rally really makes me believe that AZ is actually turning the corner…

😃😅

Cheezoholic

(3,845 posts)
17. Firts "4500 seat" churches scare the fuck out of me. 2nd, she didn't attend "because there was hardly a line"
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 12:24 PM
Apr 18

That's all you need to know about these people. Vanity.

niyad

(133,783 posts)
23. I think you misread. The woman quoted wasn't planning on going, until
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:04 PM
Apr 18

she saw that there was hardly a line, which shocked her.

AZ8theist

(7,583 posts)
62. It would be a sin to have dirty brown and black people mess up the new carpet, right?
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 01:55 PM
Apr 19

After all, that's in the Gospels. They had to move the Last Supper because new carpeting had been installed.

(Obviously sarcasm, but if that story was told, one wonders how many rubes would believe it....)

Walleye

(45,330 posts)
20. It's not like he was gonna say anything they never heard before
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 12:49 PM
Apr 18

Do you think they’re actually getting tired of the repetition. That would be nice

Bengus81

(10,340 posts)
28. They acted like they were in 2024,walking out on his rallies early
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:18 PM
Apr 18

Then...go vote for his orange ass anyway.

SouthBayDem

(33,338 posts)
24. For one, he had to compete against the Phoenix Suns
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:06 PM
Apr 18

whooping my Golden State Warriors. The Diamondbacks won last night too over Toronto.

MIButterfly

(3,079 posts)
29. If it was, indeed, 3,000 people, that's still 3,000 people when it should be no more than 30 at this point
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:19 PM
Apr 18

I understand that 3,000 in a room that holds 4,500 is not a large turnout, but 3,000 sounds like way too many that still believe in him.

What will it take for people to wake up? If they haven't by now, they never will. It must be a cult, only usually cult leaders are charismatic. DJT doesn't have a charismatic bone in his body.

Edited to add: I personally can't believe anyone would actually leave their house, get in their car and drive to see him. I don't even want to want to see him on my TV and that's just across the room.

BidenRocks

(3,464 posts)
33. Let me broad brush this.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:34 PM
Apr 18

How many (other than white) folk were in attendance.
Go to a rally, get deported!

Where was his private army? ICE had to be there for the chickenshit warhawk!

RockRaven

(19,698 posts)
34. That MAGAt is a special kind of stupid.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 01:37 PM
Apr 18

If you don't understand that people, even MAGAts, are disillusioned then you are beyond reaching.

Cha

(320,352 posts)
47. "Church" my Democratic
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 04:10 PM
Apr 18

Last edited Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:49 AM - Edit history (1)

Promoting a PEDO, Homicidal Maniac, Rapist, Treasonous asshole.. what kind of "church" is that?

This is the WaPo? What will Greedy Zombie Bezos think about his Cult god getting racked with real reporting?

flvegan

(66,485 posts)
48. Imagine deliberately showing up, in person, to a "rally" headlined by a child rapist* like
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 04:40 PM
Apr 18

"that's my guy, right there, and I'm here for him" type of thing.

What utter shit people. I mean stupid is stupid, and that's unfortunate, but there's a line you have to cross to become an utterly useless, waste of humanity shit person.

*allegedly, of course

IcyPeas

(25,730 posts)
51. I hate seeing young people there.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 05:03 PM
Apr 18

Ask them why they're there.

Ask them a history question.

Ask them to name all the wars he's stopped.



RainCaster

(13,855 posts)
53. I thought about moving to AZ
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 09:20 PM
Apr 18

But then I visited this spring and saw way too many ugly people, as defined by the bumper stickers on their golf carts. Nope, not for me.

Aussie105

(8,132 posts)
58. Promises made, promises broken will do that.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 11:06 PM
Apr 18

Most people are so sick of Trump and his destructive game playing that it isn't funny.

How many true believers are still out there?
Hopefully, fewer and fewer every day.

DFW

(60,382 posts)
59. Maybe Trump still believes his own myths about Arizona and the stolen victory of the 2020 election
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 12:13 AM
Apr 19

But that doesn't mean that the people of Arizona are obligated to believe it.

After all, Governor Katie Hobbs and both U.S. Senators (Kelly and Gallego) are all Democrats. Maybe Trump hasn't yet figured out the meaning of that, but that doesn't mean that the rest of the state is forced to walk around in the same fog.

LilElf70

(1,627 posts)
60. It's finally
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 04:55 AM
Apr 19

the beginning of the end.

There's hope for us after all. Now we have to win everything in November and shut him down for good.

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