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mahatmakanejeeves

(71,631 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:07 PM Jun 6

Sens. Lee and Curtis question new Pentagon designation for Latter-day Saints

Source: Deseret News

Politics * Faith
Sens. Lee and Curtis question new Pentagon designation for Latter-day Saints

Curtis said he would ask the Pentagon for a correction after the subhead ‘Christian’ was left off of the designation for the church

Published: June 6, 2026, 11:43 a.m. MDT
Updated: June 6, 2026, 11:51 a.m. MDT


The Church Administration Building, foreground, and the Church Office Building in Salt Lake City are shown on Tuesday, Nov. 4, 2025. Tad Walch, Deseret News

By Suzanne Bates
Suzanne is the assistant managing editor over politics and the West. She covers state and national politics.

Utah’s two U.S. senators are questioning a new Pentagon policy that leaves “Christian” off the designation for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The Department of War recently announced the reduction in the number of religious affiliation categories for service members from over 200 down to 31. Categories that were removed from the list include “atheist” and “humanist,” and “Wicca.”

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is included as a religious category on the updated list. But the faith was not included in the list of faiths labeled “Christian.”

Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, put up a screenshot of the list on X and asked “Can anyone tell me why The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was left out of the list of Christian churches?”

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Read more: https://www.deseret.com/politics/2026/06/06/lee-and-curtis-question-new-pentagon-religious-affiliation-for-latter-day-saints-mormons/



Hat tip, Joe.My.God.

https://www.joemygod.com/2026/06/mormon-senators-rage-that-new-pentagon-list-of-approved-religions-doesnt-list-lds-as-christian/
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Sens. Lee and Curtis question new Pentagon designation for Latter-day Saints (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jun 6 OP
Ruh roh... 2naSalit Jun 6 #1
Faith-Melding? czarjak Jun 6 #2
Projection Lithos Jun 6 #22
For many evangelical churches, any church that is not theirs is not christian. mwmisses4289 Jun 7 #31
That is for sure! BigDemVoter Jun 9 #40
because they do not adhere to the Nicene Creed DBoon Jun 6 #3
Exactly! SheltieLover Jun 6 #7
Because they don't believe in the trinity, right? questionseverything Jun 6 #10
It took 300 years for the majority of Christians to follow the Nicene Creed muriel_volestrangler Jun 7 #34
That's right Senators Lee and Curtis, Buddyzbuddy Jun 6 #4
See, that's where the theocratic sh** starts hitting the fan, Sen. Lee. tanyev Jun 6 #5
When the Christian churches run out of other faiths to degrade NeoTrajan Jun 6 #6
Probably one reason why Romney lost in 2012 TexasBushwhacker Jun 6 #8
yup Skittles Jun 7 #25
Hey Mike Lee, can you tell me why you supported trump? A racist, bigot, and sexist. lostincalifornia Jun 6 #9
Because Mike Lee is a fascist himself and has more or less admitted to it fujiyamasan Jun 7 #24
Religion. Can't live without it. Shit. twodogsbarking Jun 6 #11
So it seems per felon's DoD (among the erased are Atheists) pat_k Jun 6 #15
Also erased are the Unitarians. What the fuck? oberle Jun 6 #19
Un-American (and actually Un-Christian) Christian Nationalists asserting dominion. pat_k Jun 6 #20
And just like that DU starts an argument about sects. Jacson6 Jun 6 #12
Sects of Christianity are a reality Miguelito Loveless Jun 6 #13
But there's only.... SergeStorms Jun 6 #17
The only benign explanation I can think of is "Christian" wouldn't fit on the same line... jmowreader Jun 6 #14
"The Department of War..." MorbidButterflyTat Jun 6 #16
yup Skittles Jun 7 #27
Exactly. Mike Niendorff Jun 7 #28
Senators, don't expect any sympathy from me until you call the Departmant of Defense by its proper name. flashman13 Jun 6 #18
Fuck Around and FIND OUT! You all voted for the Antichrist... Jack Valentino Jun 6 #21
Not so fun when YOUR faces get eaten, Senators? nt SouthBayDem Jun 7 #23
Mike Lee is a fascist piece of shit fujiyamasan Jun 7 #26
OH! Boo FUCKING Hoo!!! AZ8theist Jun 7 #29
A secular body, DOD, deciding which religions are legitimate. Politically correct. Norrrm Jun 7 #30
MAGAts fighting MAGAts? Where's the popcorn? Wonder Why Jun 7 #32
I honestly do not care. These people (mostly) men do not or will they ever follow the teachings of Christ. efhmc Jun 7 #33
MaddowBlog-Hegseth's Pentagon slashes the number of religious faiths it officially recognizes LetMyPeopleVote Jun 7 #35
Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, put up a screenshot of the list on X and asked "Can anyone tell me why The Church of Jesus Christ Blumancru Jun 7 #36
Well, yes, you should duck (and I'm an atheist) muriel_volestrangler Jun 8 #38
Anyone who thinks Mormonism is Christian Blumancru Jun 8 #39
By that logic, of course the Nazis were socialists Blumancru Jun 10 #41
No. You need to read all of what people post. muriel_volestrangler Jun 10 #42
Ask anyone with any knowledge of both Christianity and Mormonism Blumancru Jun 11 #43
That's the only designation they question? Hypocrisy. Martin68 Jun 7 #37

BigDemVoter

(4,715 posts)
40. That is for sure!
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 02:16 AM
Jun 9

And their beloved “non-denominational” prayers are just part of the fundie freak show. It is unforgivable what they, as a voting bloc, have done.

DBoon

(25,275 posts)
3. because they do not adhere to the Nicene Creed
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:42 PM
Jun 6

Last edited Sat Jun 6, 2026, 07:02 PM - Edit history (1)

ON EDIT: Neither do Jehovah's Witnesses, though the DoD includes them as a Protestant religion.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,891 posts)
34. It took 300 years for the majority of Christians to follow the Nicene Creed
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 02:05 PM
Jun 7

because Christianity existed that long before it was formalised by the most powerful sect.

Mormons think Jesus was God. That makes them Christians ('Christ'='annointed' in Greek).

Buddyzbuddy

(3,062 posts)
4. That's right Senators Lee and Curtis,
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:43 PM
Jun 6

look out for thee but not me. You hypocritical aholes. Very Christian of you.

tanyev

(49,956 posts)
5. See, that's where the theocratic sh** starts hitting the fan, Sen. Lee.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:48 PM
Jun 6

Since The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints teaches that The Book of Mormon is a divine revelation from God and every other denomination of Christianity does not accept it as such, then they see the LDS as a completely different religion.

Much like Christianity began as a sect of Judaism, but when its adherents accepted the books of the New Testament as divine revelations from God, then it became a separate entity from Judaism.

If it really bothers you Senator Lee, then you should become a strong advocate for continuing the separation of church and state.


🤨

NeoTrajan

(93 posts)
6. When the Christian churches run out of other faiths to degrade
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:48 PM
Jun 6

They start degrading each other ...

It's my way or the highway

TexasBushwhacker

(21,360 posts)
8. Probably one reason why Romney lost in 2012
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 03:52 PM
Jun 6

Plenty of evangelical Christians consider Mormons and Catholics to be cults, but not themselves.

Jacson6

(2,332 posts)
12. And just like that DU starts an argument about sects.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 04:29 PM
Jun 6

Never talk about politics or religion. You will just make someone mad!

jmowreader

(53,560 posts)
14. The only benign explanation I can think of is "Christian" wouldn't fit on the same line...
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 05:40 PM
Jun 6

...as the very long official name of that religion.

TBH I'm surprised "Catholic" was part of the list of Christian faiths. There are LOTS of hardcore Protestants who don't believe Catholicism is Christian.

The funniest part is one of the faiths listed under "Christian" is Jehovah's Witnesses. It is a Christian faith, but it shouldn't be on this list because if you are a Jehovah's Witness and you join the Army they kick you out of their faith.

Hindu, Islam and Judaism all have several branches. On a different message board someone pointed out the Defense Department is actively working to recruit more Messianistic Judaism chaplains. Messianistic Judaism teaches that the Messiah has already returned to Earth and his name is Jesus Christ. In other words, it's a Christian faith designed to pull Jews into Christianity.

I suspect the real reason for this change was to de-recognize Norse faiths. Before Platoon Leader Hegseth infested the Defense Department with his venom, you could sign up as one of several Pagan faiths. Now you can't.

Mike Niendorff

(3,671 posts)
28. Exactly.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 05:30 AM
Jun 7

There is no "Department of War".

This is Trump-brand NewSpeak.

No American should be bowing to it.


MDN

flashman13

(2,649 posts)
18. Senators, don't expect any sympathy from me until you call the Departmant of Defense by its proper name.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 08:57 PM
Jun 6

Jack Valentino

(5,377 posts)
21. Fuck Around and FIND OUT! You all voted for the Antichrist...
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 11:15 PM
Jun 6

now you're surprised that Trump's White House and most Republicans
don't consider you to be "Christians".....




Might be some fall-off in midterm votes for Republicans in Utah this fall....

fujiyamasan

(2,198 posts)
26. Mike Lee is a fascist piece of shit
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 03:54 AM
Jun 7

Fuck him. Seriously one evil ass hole. No sympathy here. Don’t care about his fucking cult not getting his Christian designation boo hoo

AZ8theist

(7,765 posts)
29. OH! Boo FUCKING Hoo!!!
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:53 AM
Jun 7

You fucking fascist assholes have NO PROBLEM letting the bigotry and racism by Trump just slide by ...........

UNTIL!!

It affects your stupid cult!!

KISS MY HEATHEN UNBELIEVING BLASPHEMOUS ASS you fucking hypocritical SCUMBAGS.

efhmc

(17,303 posts)
33. I honestly do not care. These people (mostly) men do not or will they ever follow the teachings of Christ.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 01:47 PM
Jun 7

LetMyPeopleVote

(184,160 posts)
35. MaddowBlog-Hegseth's Pentagon slashes the number of religious faiths it officially recognizes
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 03:41 PM
Jun 7

The defense secretary has spent most of his tenure drifting from one culture war priority to another. Evidently, he hasn’t gotten to the end of his list.

On the one hand, Hegseth is using his office to advance a Christian nationalist agenda.

On the other hand, his Pentagon isn’t just elevating one faith tradition, it’s also demoting other faith traditions, slashing the number of religions the Defense Department officially recognizes.

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-06-05T21:02:17.897Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/hegseths-pentagon-slashes-the-number-of-religious-faiths-it-officially-recognizes

To a degree without modern precedent, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has used his powerful office to advance a Christian nationalist agenda. In recent months, Americans have seen him lead Christian prayer services in the Pentagon’s auditorium, invite radical Christian nationalist figures to speak at official prayer services, use social media to promote messages that suggest his faith should dominate other religious traditions and even argue during an official press briefing that Americans should take a knee and pray “in the name of Jesus Christ.”....

This week, however, a related problem emerged, though in an unexpected way: Instead of seeing Hegseth’s Defense Department take steps to elevate one faith tradition, Americans are seeing the Pentagon demote other faith traditions. The Religion News Service reported:

The Department of Defense is substantially reducing the number of religions it officially recognizes, reportedly excluding atheists, pagans, humanists and New Age faiths, an independent military-focused news website reports.

The reduction of recognized faith groups represents the first time the military has revised the list since 2017, when it vastly expanded the list of recognized faith groups to about 211. The new list includes 31 recognized faiths, as first reported by Military.com on Thursday (June 4).


The Military.com report was based on a memorandum issued by Anthony Tata on May 20. (Tata, the under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness, is perhaps best known for his record of anti-Muslim rhetoric and bonkers condemnations of Barack Obama, whom Tata described as a “terrorist leader.” Last year, Senate Republicans confirmed him anyway.).....

The secretary has spent most of his tenure drifting from one culture war priority to another. The list, evidently, continues to grow.

Blumancru

(390 posts)
36. Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, put up a screenshot of the list on X and asked "Can anyone tell me why The Church of Jesus Christ
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 04:21 PM
Jun 7

Because the LDS Church does not follow the Nicean Creed, a foundation of Christian belief. The Mormon religion bears the same relationship to Christianity that the WWE bears to Olympic wrestling. Some of the forms, some of the terminology, but it is a different thing all together and is in no sense a Christian religion.
(Ducking quickly)

muriel_volestrangler

(106,891 posts)
38. Well, yes, you should duck (and I'm an atheist)
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:36 PM
Jun 8

The Nicene Creed is about 300 years younger than Christianity. Of course Mormonism is Christian - it's right there in the name: "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints". They regard Jesus as "Christ" - anointed by God. Specifically, they regard him as the son of God, and believe he was resurrected.

If it's the Trinity you think is a vital part of Christianity, then it isn't. The concept of God being a Trinity gradually appears in mainstream Christianity from over a hundred years after the crucifixion until the Nicene Creed says "believe it, or you're an enemy of Real Christianity™". And this sect's Roman emperors won the political battle, so that was mainstream Christianity fixed.

Blumancru

(390 posts)
41. By that logic, of course the Nazis were socialists
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 03:02 PM
Jun 10

Socialist was right there in the name. And it was done for a similar reason, to deceive and more easily attract converts.

You can name something whatever you want. It does not make it so.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,891 posts)
42. No. You need to read all of what people post.
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 03:10 PM
Jun 10

They believe Jesus was the Son of God. That is the fundamental meaning of "Christian" - that they believe Jesus was anointed by God.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/Christ

I have no idea why you feel the need to separate Mormons from other Christians, but it's not working.

Blumancru

(390 posts)
43. Ask anyone with any knowledge of both Christianity and Mormonism
Thu Jun 11, 2026, 08:43 PM
Jun 11

If they are compatible. Do Christians believe that God lives on Kolob? Do Christians believe that God was once a man and that we too can become Godlike and participate in creation?
Do Christians have a temple ceremony cribbed from Masonic initiation?
Mormons try to convince us that they are just another Protestant sect who used to be polygamous a long time ago, but it’s not working.
Muslims also have Jesus, are they also Christian?

I could go on but this conversation is over. Mormons are in general some of the nicest people you would want to meet, and the best neighbors when not trying to convert you, but Mormonism is a separate thing and is NOT a Christian religion.

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