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AZLD4Candidate

(7,089 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 07:19 PM Thursday

Carville says he wouldn't seat Mamdani-backed Avila Chevalier in caucus: 'She's not a Democrat'

Source: The Hill

Democratic strategist James Carville said he wouldn’t place Darializa Avila Chevalier, the Democratic nominee for New York’s 13th Congressional District, in the House Democratic Caucus if she wins in November.

“They should not seat her in the caucus. Her views are totally against anything that any Democrat has. We believe in pluralism,” Carville told NewsNation’s Elizabeth Vargas on Wednesday.

Carville added later that Avila Chevalier, a democratic socialist who was backed by New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani (D) in her race, “is not a Democrat.”

Read more: https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/5940133-james-carville-dems-avila-chevalier/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBExWmthNWY3cnlVWjR2bjRhbXNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR6q_NM8hS2NVBEFYxHzoXwMWkUajKVRN4jm0-RZzgB5yxCyymQf8O_Yt_bnsQ_aem_7_HySjJ5KvpmONfcym7a-w



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Carville says he wouldn't seat Mamdani-backed Avila Chevalier in caucus: 'She's not a Democrat' (Original Post) AZLD4Candidate Thursday OP
So James Carville says Avila Chevalier is NOT a D.I.N.O. , Good dave99 Thursday #1
Maybe he is saying... reACTIONary Thursday #18
The gatekeepers are on full display today. choie Thursday #2
Carville needs to go F himself. The voters are clearly smarter than he is. They know what they want. flashman13 Thursday #23
Who's this James Carville guy?? InAbLuEsTaTe Yesterday #30
Carville is a Democratic "consultant" that has been working on campaigns since the 1980s. flashman13 Yesterday #68
Reason #117 Miguelito Loveless Thursday #3
Can Carville actually do this or is he just blowing smoke? DBoon Thursday #4
He is sharing his opinion and... reACTIONary Thursday #14
No RandySF Yesterday #55
tangential correction/clarification (whether full House could refuse to seat her) GJGCA Yesterday #66
Her views may be closer to the FDR Democrats than his karynnj Thursday #5
She previously called for abolishing police, prisons and borders MichMan Yesterday #59
Completely agree on those issues karynnj Yesterday #65
Who gets to decide who is a "Democrat"....easy answer, the voters. ☮ walkingman Thursday #6
No true Scotsman.... reACTIONary Thursday #15
And Carville is relevant how? ananda Thursday #7
He's on TV. He's being quoted.. reACTIONary Thursday #16
And as far as I can tell.. ananda Thursday #25
Who the heck are you calling a Republican? In truth... reACTIONary Yesterday #69
Thank you. bcbink Yesterday #78
Yeah, Carville? Ain't yer call anyway ya pinhead duckworth969 Thursday #8
Hey Carville how about Fetterman? Ritabert Thursday #9
While we're at it lets list all the places I wouldn't seat Mary Matalin ToxMarz Thursday #10
We need numbers in the House SpankMe Thursday #11
is she too radical for the "squad?" rampartd Yesterday #52
There is no change in numbers MichMan Yesterday #61
leaving out the part where mopinko Thursday #12
Bernie caucuses with the Democratic party doesn't he? Laffy Kat Thursday #13
Yep! But.... reACTIONary Thursday #17
We've got FOUR months to NOT fuck up NOV. Her winning wont help. Callie1979 Thursday #19
Isn't there some kind of rule about not trashing Democrats? luv2fly Thursday #24
If the post quotes or paraphrases the person, it is not a violation of the policy. I am left of the Socialist Dems. My 3Hotdogs Thursday #26
Not seeing any quote marks luv2fly Thursday #27
So you're more concerned with the use of quotation marks than the statements? Callie1979 Yesterday #76
No, that's not what I was saying. luv2fly Yesterday #79
Paraphrases? Do you or the original pster have sources that verify the "paraphrase" (it wasn't a quote)? I mean, if KPN Yesterday #45
Unfortunately, my source was the reporting on WNYC the morning on Wednesday. She has also promoted fully 3Hotdogs Yesterday #56
I agree. And her past WILL be used to paint the entire party like it or not. Callie1979 Yesterday #74
So you're telling me you're not aware of all this terrible posts? Callie1979 Yesterday #73
How do you like your Governor? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #51
It's not just you. murielm99 Yesterday #36
Not sure anymore MichMan Yesterday #63
She's against prisons and borders creeksneakers2 Yesterday #39
Sources? KPN Yesterday #43
Sources? KPN Yesterday #42
Here from Post #54 MichMan Yesterday #60
Thanks. Fortunately, I don't have the ability to vote for or against her, so I don't have to research further. I would KPN Yesterday #71
Amazing how no one seems to know about her past. Callie1979 Yesterday #75
Back into the dustbin of history you go. Buddyzbuddy Thursday #20
That's nice, James. Scrivener7 Thursday #21
Post removed Post removed Thursday #22
It's not 1992 anymore, you chicken-fried buffoon . . . hatrack Thursday #28
She called Biden a "rapist" in 2020. RandySF Thursday #29
Proof? VegasVet Yesterday #31
NYT RandySF Yesterday #32
Thank you for this. Wow. She's a bit much for my taste if this is still what she believes. VegasVet Yesterday #46
Google.com awesomerwb1 Yesterday #40
No. Someone made a statement. It isn't unreasonable to ask for proof. Don't be obtuse. VegasVet Yesterday #47
Put more effort into it. It's easy awesomerwb1 Yesterday #67
Carville is DLC in other words, corporate owned PurgedVoter Yesterday #33
Who last hired him? Akakoji Yesterday #34
Maybe he should actually talk to her instead of letting tweets some decades old influence him. Eko Yesterday #35
Carville can eat a bag AllyCat Yesterday #37
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #38
"looney progressives" luv2fly Yesterday #41
Could you provide us with some authentic quotes from her . . . RedArkGuy Yesterday #49
The evidence is in the strawman over there. . .wait, it moved over there, passed another goalpost AZLD4Candidate Yesterday #58
See link in post #54 MichMan Yesterday #64
Far past the time for Carville to retire from politics. PufPuf23 Yesterday #44
I keep asking people who are having McCarthyite fits RedArkGuy Yesterday #48
"democratic socialist" J_William_Ryan Yesterday #50
Libertarians are definitely not Republicans. While they may share an overall view on minimalist government, Libertarians 24601 Yesterday #72
She sought the democratic nomination JBTaurus83 Yesterday #53
She didn't seem to like interracial relationships at one point. RandySF Yesterday #54
how is Carville still a thing? he must have one hell of an agent. nt Javaman Yesterday #57
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy... GiqueCee Yesterday #62
Carville needs to retire his opinions. NOW. howardmappel Yesterday #70
Bernie Sanders classified himself as an Independent when he was in the House, but caucused with the D's aeromanKC Yesterday #77
Well, since he's not in charge of that Bettie Yesterday #80

flashman13

(2,640 posts)
23. Carville needs to go F himself. The voters are clearly smarter than he is. They know what they want.
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 10:08 PM
Thursday

flashman13

(2,640 posts)
68. Carville is a Democratic "consultant" that has been working on campaigns since the 1980s.
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 11:49 AM
Yesterday

He hit the big time working on Bill Clinton's campaigns and in that administration. He is the person that coined the slogan, "It's the economy stupid". That slogan is probably the only thing he has done that is still relevant today.

Carville is now just a old hack that pontificates on MSNow and his own pod cast. You could say he is a dinosaur that represents what is wrong with the Democratic party. He doesn't realize that the times and the base of the party have passed him by. I don't think he has any business defining who are the real Democrats.

DBoon

(25,270 posts)
4. Can Carville actually do this or is he just blowing smoke?
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 07:35 PM
Thursday

Sounds like Carville is a make-believe gatekeeper, trying to decide who is and isn't a "True Democrat"

reACTIONary

(7,435 posts)
14. He is sharing his opinion and...
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 08:34 PM
Thursday

... what he would recommend. He has no more authority than any other pundit or "strategist.

RandySF

(87,954 posts)
55. No
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 07:05 AM
Yesterday

The Democratic Caucus could hypothetically refuse entry or the full House could, again hypothetically, refuse to seat her.

GJGCA

(324 posts)
66. tangential correction/clarification (whether full House could refuse to seat her)
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 10:25 AM
Yesterday

It was tried with Adam Clayton Powell:

Since the Supreme Court’s 1969 decision in Powell v. McCormack, the House can only exclude a member-elect who fails to meet the three qualifications spelled out in the Constitution: minimum age, citizenship duration, and state residency.

Source: https://legalclarity.org/when-can-the-house-refuse-to-seat-a-member-elect/

karynnj

(61,225 posts)
5. Her views may be closer to the FDR Democrats than his
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 07:37 PM
Thursday

I old enough to remember when Clinton, aided by Carville and Begala spoke of being " new' Democrats - remember the DLC

That was a shift. Now, we:re seeing another.

As to not letting someone into the caucus, how stupid! Would he change his mind if it gives us the speakers?


karynnj

(61,225 posts)
65. Completely agree on those issues
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 08:58 AM
Yesterday

Also, I think almost everyone who spoke that way has later claimed that they didn't mean what they literally said instead meaning significant reforms.

I personally am and always have been more moderate on that.

reACTIONary

(7,435 posts)
69. Who the heck are you calling a Republican? In truth...
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 12:45 PM
Yesterday

.... a poll that zeroed in specifically on ideological self identification found that only 35% of Democrats considered themselves to be "democratic socialists." That might suggest there are a good number of Democrats who would look favorably on Carville's opinions.

Other polling shows that about 55% of self identified Democrats consider themselves to be liberal or very liberal; while 34% identify as moderate; and about 9%, conservative. This suggests that even among those Democrats who are liberal or very liberal, there are many that would not consider themselves "democratic socialists," and may have agreement with Carville.

Stepping away from "democratic" socialism specifically, and looking at socialism as a general, binary preference, polling shows Democrats are more positive towards "socialism" than "capitalism;" 66% to 42%, That, again, would indicate that those who might support Carville's opinions have substantial standing in the Democratic party.

I don't think you should denigrate as "Republicans" the many Democrats who are partial towards Carville's assessments.

ToxMarz

(3,188 posts)
10. While we're at it lets list all the places I wouldn't seat Mary Matalin
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 08:04 PM
Thursday

But you seem to have no problem.giving her oxygen.

SpankMe

(3,807 posts)
11. We need numbers in the House
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 08:14 PM
Thursday

It's all about tactics and strategy in this era, not purist ideology. Even if she's not in line with the DNC's main platform, if she's willing to caucus with Dems, we should take her.

rampartd

(5,507 posts)
52. is she too radical for the "squad?"
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 06:39 AM
Yesterday

all of those ladies have been effective spokespersons with good constituent services staff. is that what "the establishment" is afraid of?

mopinko

(74,246 posts)
12. leaving out the part where
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 08:28 PM
Thursday

she’s a pretty staunch anti-zionist. that’s what his beef is.
i thought israel/gaza was the most important thing on the planet. but let’s not talk about that, huh?

reACTIONary

(7,435 posts)
17. Yep! But....
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 08:45 PM
Thursday

.... he doesn't call himself a Democrat. He calls himself an Independent. I don't know much about Chevalier, but if she ran as an independent, would she have any chance at all?

Callie1979

(1,495 posts)
19. We've got FOUR months to NOT fuck up NOV. Her winning wont help.
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 09:07 PM
Thursday

She called President Biden a RAPIST
Among a ton of other terrible social media posts
A freaking GIFT to the GOP.
There wasnt anything wrong with the 13th District's CURRENT Rep
Good lord.

luv2fly

(2,768 posts)
24. Isn't there some kind of rule about not trashing Democrats?
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 10:25 PM
Thursday

My memory certainly fails me now and then, but I seem to recall having read something about not bashing Democratic public figures, not peddling right-wing smears... you know... SUPPORTING Democrats.

Maybe it's just me.

3Hotdogs

(15,744 posts)
26. If the post quotes or paraphrases the person, it is not a violation of the policy. I am left of the Socialist Dems. My
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 11:32 PM
Thursday

new N.J. rep is a Soc.Dem.

Callie1979

(1,495 posts)
76. So you're more concerned with the use of quotation marks than the statements?
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 05:29 PM
Yesterday

This is exactly what I'm worried about.

See Post #73 for several links to several bad comments & positions.

KPN

(17,602 posts)
45. Paraphrases? Do you or the original pster have sources that verify the "paraphrase" (it wasn't a quote)? I mean, if
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 02:18 AM
Yesterday

we are going to bash Democratic Party candidates in a general election, shouldn't we provide sources purported to be facts?

3Hotdogs

(15,744 posts)
56. Unfortunately, my source was the reporting on WNYC the morning on Wednesday. She has also promoted fully
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 07:15 AM
Yesterday

open borders and eliminating most police departments and officers. I believe she will win the November election.

As a November candidate, she won't do much harm to the Dem. November election efforts. But if she continues with extreme points of view on the floor of Congress? Not good.

Callie1979

(1,495 posts)
74. I agree. And her past WILL be used to paint the entire party like it or not.
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 05:25 PM
Yesterday

But I didnt use quotes in my original post so I'M the bad guy.
This is how we trip over our own shoes.

MichMan

(17,632 posts)
63. Not sure anymore
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 08:41 AM
Yesterday

I've seen plenty of posts saying the most vile things about Sen. Fetterman.

MichMan

(17,632 posts)
60. Here from Post #54
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 08:19 AM
Yesterday
During the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests, Avila Chevalier responded to a user asking what a better slogan would be than “defund the police,” by posting, “F-ck you. We’re gonna defund and abolish. You don’t get to water down our movements.”

In another post two days later, Avila Chevalier rejected an argument that abolishing police meant only ending policing “as we know it.”

“No. It means ending policing full stop. Period. No more police at all ever,” she replied, adding several clap emojis between words.


A repost from September 2021 read, “A world without borders—just like a world without prisons or police—is possible, necessary, and the only moral way forward.”

https://cbs12.com/news/nation-world/mamdani-backed-house-candidates-deleted-posts-called-for-abolishing-police-borders-democratic-socialist-nyc-adriano-espaillat-primary-blm-bernie-sanders-aoc-joe-biden

KPN

(17,602 posts)
71. Thanks. Fortunately, I don't have the ability to vote for or against her, so I don't have to research further. I would
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 02:09 PM
Yesterday

be interested in seeing those texts directly and having a better understanding of their context. For all I know re: world without borders, she could have been talking simply about an ideal or what the "arc of the universe" would look like.

At any rate, I do agree that this info will jade many voters against her and there is risk to electing Democrats in that for sure.

Buddyzbuddy

(3,051 posts)
20. Back into the dustbin of history you go.
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 09:15 PM
Thursday

You have to admit, he's a fighter. Too bad it's against progression. Have a Mint Julip and ssshhh, you old coot.

Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

RandySF

(87,954 posts)
32. NYT
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 12:18 AM
Yesterday
She also called Joe Biden a “rapist” in April 2020, as he was on his way to clinching the Democratic nomination for the presidency, though she recently said she voted for him.



https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/23/nyregion/who-is-darializa-avila-chevalier.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

VegasVet

(7,524 posts)
46. Thank you for this. Wow. She's a bit much for my taste if this is still what she believes.
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 02:37 AM
Yesterday

PurgedVoter

(2,726 posts)
33. Carville is DLC in other words, corporate owned
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 12:36 AM
Yesterday

I read his book, in no way does he support the views in his book.

Eko

(10,196 posts)
35. Maybe he should actually talk to her instead of letting tweets some decades old influence him.
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 12:57 AM
Yesterday

Response to AZLD4Candidate (Original post)

RedArkGuy

(896 posts)
49. Could you provide us with some authentic quotes from her . . .
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 03:12 AM
Yesterday

. . . that reveal her for the Marxist/Islamic fundamentalist she is claimed to be?

AZLD4Candidate

(7,089 posts)
58. The evidence is in the strawman over there. . .wait, it moved over there, passed another goalpost
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 08:14 AM
Yesterday

PufPuf23

(10,036 posts)
44. Far past the time for Carville to retire from politics.
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 02:17 AM
Yesterday

I question his true motives he sucks so bad.

RedArkGuy

(896 posts)
48. I keep asking people who are having McCarthyite fits
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 03:10 AM
Yesterday

. . . over these candidates to give me quotations from them that support their claimed fears about these allegedly Marxist/Islamist candidates. I've not received any such quotation yet.

J_William_Ryan

(3,652 posts)
50. "democratic socialist"
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 06:25 AM
Yesterday

Are we to assume that ‘democratic socialists’ are Democrats the same way ‘libertarians’ are Republicans.

Or are ‘democratic socialists’ a political party separate and apart from the Democratic Party.

24601

(4,148 posts)
72. Libertarians are definitely not Republicans. While they may share an overall view on minimalist government, Libertarians
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 02:16 PM
Yesterday

- oppose the death penalty
- would end the current U.S. government policies of foreign intervention including military and economic aid; tariffs; economic sanctions; and regime change.
- support the decriminalization of prostitution. They assert the right of consenting adults to provide sexual services to clients for compensation, and the right of clients to purchase sexual services from consenting sex workers.
- say that the only legitimate use of force is in defense of individual rights

There are many more, some that align with us, and some that do not. Here's their platform: https://lp.org/platform-page/

JBTaurus83

(1,858 posts)
53. She sought the democratic nomination
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 06:46 AM
Yesterday

And ran under the party name. Who is he to decide what a Democrat is? I’m not a fan of many of his positions. Same for John Fetterman, objectively they are still Democrats though, no matter how much I may disagree with their views.

RandySF

(87,954 posts)
54. She didn't seem to like interracial relationships at one point.
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 07:00 AM
Yesterday
Avila Chevalier, in a series of messages, called Joe Biden a “rapist” and “war criminal” during the 2020 presidential election, referred to the U.S. as a “f**king disgrace,” talked about wiping her dirty hands on the American flag, and described interracial relationships involving white females as “fetishizing ugly colonizer women.”




https://cbs12.com/news/nation-world/mamdani-backed-house-candidates-deleted-posts-called-for-abolishing-police-borders-democratic-socialist-nyc-adriano-espaillat-primary-blm-bernie-sanders-aoc-joe-biden

GiqueCee

(5,070 posts)
62. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy...
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 08:32 AM
Yesterday

... let's calm down now; it's time for your meds and a nap. Yes, yes, we know how you get when people prefer to forget you exist.
Do you remember the concept of integrity, Jimmy? No? Well, Ms Avila Chevalier has it. You apparently don't, so it's best if you be quiet now. You're only hurting yourself.

For the terminally obtuse:

aeromanKC

(3,998 posts)
77. Bernie Sanders classified himself as an Independent when he was in the House, but caucused with the D's
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 05:51 PM
Yesterday

Bettie

(20,006 posts)
80. Well, since he's not in charge of that
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 07:33 PM
Yesterday

I guess his opinion is worth the same as any of ours.

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