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nitpicked

(783 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:24 AM Tuesday

Latino men just didn't want a woman president

https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/juan-williams/4980787-latino-men-just-didnt-want-a-woman-president/?tbref=hp

No, it wasn’t “the Economy, stupid.” Speaking as a Black man born into a Spanish-speaking family, let me tell you what last week’s election was really about. It was about millions of men — many with my Latino immigrant background, some with my skin color — who don’t want any woman, especially a woman of color, in the White House.

Trump won 55 percent of Latino men nationally. He won 46 percent of all Latino voters, a 14 percent jump over his support against President Biden in 2020. That was the highest for any Republican presidential candidate in five decades.

And the key was his success with Latino men. Trump’s support from Latino men jumped by nearly 20 percentage points, from 36 percent in 2020 when he ran against Biden, a white man.
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“I believe there is another painful factor that, though difficult to measure in polls, might help explain Trump’s appeal with Latino men: the allure of the ‘caudillo,’” wrote Leon Krauze in The Washington Post. “Trump represents a familiar archetype in Latin American history: the charismatic leader…the providential man, the messianic leader, deeply ingrained in Latino culture.”
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Latino men just didn't want a woman president (Original Post) nitpicked Tuesday OP
Well, I hope these A Holes are ready to mow the lawns, trim the hedges, etc. 'cause our Latino guys are no where to be SheilaAnn Tuesday #1
absolute fact...and Arab men were similar democratsruletheday Tuesday #2
Truth CountAllVotes Tuesday #12
This message was self-deleted by its author ItsjustMe Tuesday #3
Despite poo poo king saying they are coming to rape our women... GreenWave Tuesday #8
So how does Mexico have a female president? prodigitalson Tuesday #4
Answer: Latino is not a monoculture n/t markpkessinger Tuesday #10
Because they have gender quotas in politics Mosby Sunday #22
LOL, affirmative action for women Skittles Yesterday #23
Yes, Mexico has a woman President BlueHurricane Tuesday #5
Oct 2024 Mexico has its 1st female president delisen Tuesday #6
"Canadian one" How about the Toronto Star? DinahMoeHum Tuesday #13
Thank you. I will look into it. nt delisen Tuesday #14
Racism and sexism decided this. Across all demographics. Scrivener7 Tuesday #7
I agree. ificandream Tuesday #15
I'm a white woman. I'm even more ashamed of my own demographic. Scrivener7 Tuesday #17
This, exactly! DemonGoddess 23 hrs ago #24
Neither did white men and white women. nt Autumn Tuesday #9
I am an old white woman CountAllVotes Tuesday #11
I'm an old white guy. I voted for Kamala and the ticket, too. ificandream Tuesday #16
Why are we being blamed? CountAllVotes Tuesday #18
oh man Skittles Saturday #19
Seems that some elderly men are of this ilk CountAllVotes Sunday #20
I hear you Skittles Sunday #21

SheilaAnn

(10,128 posts)
1. Well, I hope these A Holes are ready to mow the lawns, trim the hedges, etc. 'cause our Latino guys are no where to be
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:28 AM
Tuesday

found, already. They're leaving but don't know where, not showing up at our property in Florida.

CountAllVotes

(21,057 posts)
12. Truth
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 01:55 PM
Tuesday

My friend is married to a Palestinian.

She waits on him hand and foot!

I'm pretty sure the not only he, but she too voted for tRUMP!



Response to nitpicked (Original post)

Mosby

(17,448 posts)
22. Because they have gender quotas in politics
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 08:09 PM
Sunday

It's like affirmative action for women, 120 countries around the world do this. It's actually a great example of how social engineering can affect a culture in a positive way, though as the below article points out, parity between men and women is still lacking in a lot of sectors.

Mexican men have more experience with woman politicians and lack some of the more toxic elements of machismo seen with American Latinos.

No Latin American country has passed more reforms expanding women’s representation than Mexico. In 1996, the country started with a measure recommending that at least 30 percent of political parties’ legislative candidates be women. In 2002, it became compulsory, and by 2008, the quota level rose to 40 percent. A 2014 amendment upped the level to gender parity for candidates for federal and local legislative seats. Along the way, a network of women from across civil society, academia, media, and government worked strategically to win support and close loopholes that made it easy for parties to run women candidates in districts they were likely to lose anyway or swapping a man into a post after a woman wins a seat. Mexican women went from having single-digit representation in the national congress 30 years ago to holding an equal number of seats today.

Link



Obviously the US and states will never enact gender quotas, because you know, freedom and shit.

BlueHurricane

(28 posts)
5. Yes, Mexico has a woman President
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 11:15 AM
Tuesday

Claudia Sheinbaum won the highest vote percentage in an election since Mexico started free and fair elections. And about a dozen other Latin countries have had women presidents. But those Latinos did not have the right wing propaganda machine targeted at them.

The repubs certainly used sexism in their campaign, targeting men in general, and I read somewhere they did a lot of propaganda targeted specifically at Latinos.

delisen

(6,446 posts)
6. Oct 2024 Mexico has its 1st female president
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 11:16 AM
Tuesday

Congratulations to Claudia Sheinbaum( yes she is also Jewish).

Millions of Mexican men voted enthusiastically for a well educated female environmental scientist. Since Mexico is still a macho culture maybe the Latino men won’t vote for a woman is just bad reporting.

We seem to have a lot of bad reporting in the US as well as columnists who don’t do much research
It is why I switched to The Guardian fo news and am trying to find a top notch Mexican newspaper as well as a Canadian one

ificandream

(10,498 posts)
15. I agree.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 03:30 PM
Tuesday

The more I think about it, the more I feel Kamala did nothing wrong. The very stupid voters did. And interesting comment about Latino men not wanting a woman president, be they white or not. Trump has always been acting like a macho man. I thought our male population was a lot more caring about women. Apparently they aren't.

Scrivener7

(52,690 posts)
17. I'm a white woman. I'm even more ashamed of my own demographic.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:20 PM
Tuesday

Besides Black women, there is no cross section of our population - no cross section of our Democratic allies - where, when we break it down, we did not lose voters to racism and/or sexism.

I dream of seeing a woman President before I die. But we can't ignore the fact that there are racists and sexists among us. Among us Democrats. We have been taught that lesson twice now. Hopefully we have learned it.

She ran a GREAT campaign. If she was a white man with half her qualifications, she would have won in a landslide.

CountAllVotes

(21,057 posts)
11. I am an old white woman
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 01:53 PM
Tuesday

An elderly man opened a door for me a few weeks ago. I thanked him.

He looked at me and said, "Be sure to vote for tRUMP".

I gave him a filthy look and walked away.

How dare he!

I voted for Kamala Harris.

I am a Democrat and I voted the ticket!



CountAllVotes

(21,057 posts)
18. Why are we being blamed?
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 09:09 PM
Tuesday

The blame should fall on the people that organized the big CHEAT!

I have nothing to do w/tRUMP!

We need to stick together now?

I don't know about you but my father fought in WWII to protect our country. I am glad he is not here to witness this despicable mess!

Take care.



CountAllVotes

(21,057 posts)
20. Seems that some elderly men are of this ilk
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 12:40 PM
Sunday

WHO is he telling a woman how to vote?



I should have told him to f/o but why sink to his level of functioning.

Misogynistic freak!

I don't need any door opened for me!

Its all about controlling women!

You've come a long way baby = BULLSH*T!



Skittles

(159,061 posts)
21. I hear you
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 06:12 PM
Sunday

except I see the door thing as just being courteous - I say "thank you"

I say FUCK YOU if they try to control me.

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