Trump Tilts Toward a Ukraine Sellout - WSJ Editorial
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Mr. Trump on Tuesday mimicked Russian propaganda by claiming Ukraine had started the war with Russia and that Kyiv is little better than the Kremlin because it hasnt held a wartime election. Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky replied on Wednesday that Mr. Trump was living in a disinformation space, which may have been imprudent but was accurate.
Mr. Trump escalated on Wednesday, as he usually does, calling Mr. Zelensky a dictator, and suggesting Ukraines leader snookered the U.S. into supporting a war that couldnt be won, that never had to start. Mr. Zelensky refuses to have Elections, is very low in Ukrainian Polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden like a fiddle. Its tempting to dismiss this exchange as mere rhetoric, but it has the feel of political intention for Mr. Trump. He may be trashing Ukraines democracy to make voters think theres no real difference between the Kremlin and Kyiv. He may think this will make it easier to sell a peace deal that betrays Ukraine.
We doubt most Americans will overlook his false moral equivalence. Mr. Putins war of conquest started three years ago this month when Russian troops rolled over the border and tried to capture Kyiv. The war began not because Mr. Putin had legitimate security fearsbut because the aging former KGB agent wants to reassemble most of the Soviet empire he saw crumble as a young man. Ukraine has delayed elections while it is operating under martial law and fighting a war for survival. Its constitution allows this, and Britain under Nazi siege didnt hold an election during World War II. Was Churchill a dictator?
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Mr. Trump may also think he can turn Ukrainians against Mr. Zelensky. But the irony is that Mr. Trumps lashing may have the opposite effect, especially if they see Mr. Zelensky opposing a bad deal forced on them by a U.S.-Russia pact that includes no credible security guarantee against future Russian marauding. The U.S. has a profound interest in denying Mr. Putin a new perch on more of the NATO border, which is the real reason America has been right to arm Ukraine. A deal that amounts to Ukrainian surrender will be a blow to American power that will radiate to the Pacific and the Middle East. It would be the opposite of Mr. Trumps promise to restore a golden age of U.S. prestige and world calm.
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Last week Mr. Trump said Ukraine cant join NATO and must give up much of its territory to Russiaconcessions to Mr. Putin with nothing in return. Mr. Putins response this week has been more drone attacks on Ukraine. And here we thought Mr. Trump doesnt like being played. The better strategy than beating up Ukraine is making clear to Mr. Putin the arms and pressure hell face if the Russian doesnt wind down the war to accept a durable peace. As it stands now, Mr. Trumps seeming desperation for a deal is a risk to Ukraine, Europe, U.S. interestsand his own Presidency.
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BOSSHOG
(41,105 posts)He is not a Republican United States Senator. Trump is flummoxed. Trump cant figure out what lie to tell next. Oh my what does the Russian vlad want me to do next?
Scrivener7
(54,026 posts)European countries just gave a bunch of money to Ukraine. The felon can spout all he wants. It's not his decision.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(118,987 posts)and fuck the US citizens.
Scrivener7
(54,026 posts)PortTack
(35,283 posts)The EU and I would imagine a few other countries, Japan, Australia will keep helping Ukraine. It is not f..king up to pootie and orange buffoon
but buffoon cant get that thru his empty head.
Hes gonna end up being the biggest loser in this whole thing
LOSER TRUMP!
J_William_Ryan
(2,439 posts)No, he wasnt and neither is President Zelensky.
Trump is a wannabe despot and dictator, a Putin useful idiot, and fascist thug.
ratchiweenie
(8,065 posts)all of Ukraine's so Ukraine is fucked.
PortTack
(35,283 posts)Also continue to back Ukraine. Just because pootie and buffoons cronies met means nothing.
TarHeels
(3 posts)0 for 2 Trump.
Rocknation
(44,896 posts)A Russian Ass Kissing
Rocknation
maxsolomon
(35,860 posts)Rupert Murdoch's WSJ Editorial Board.
twodogsbarking
(12,740 posts)frogstar0
(127 posts)Donny Appeasement wants to give his master Ukraine.
Playingmantis
(318 posts)Quixote1818
(30,708 posts)70sEraVet
(4,348 posts)Putin will continue to push, dreaming of becoming the savior of the USSR. I predict it will lead to a third World War.
What I cannot predict, is which side WE will be fighting on!
COL Mustard
(7,211 posts)Chamberlain went down in history as an inept negotiator; I expect Trump will follow suit.