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lees1975

(6,369 posts)
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 04:49 PM Saturday

Democrats have a lot to consider, and better do it quickly.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2025/03/democrats-have-lot-to-consider-and.html

Polling data was released by a couple of the major networks last week which showed that the favorability rating of the Democratic party in Congress had fallen to 29%, down from 47% just before election time. In one poll, it was as low as 27%.

Noting that the other party's numbers are similar, and Congress' job approval rating has been in the toilet for a long time still does not relieve the Democratic party leadership, whoever that might be now, of the responsibility they have to their constituents. We did not put them there to do nothing. And I think the even more powerful message in this polling data is that we didn't put them there to do what they are doing.

I think it's pretty simple, really.

We are for the preservation of American democracy. We believe in the Constitution and we support the rule of law. And that means we are opposed to every word, and every deed, of the current President. We have come to a point in our history where the biggest threat to the existence of the United States as the world's leading democracy is its own President. This President, the incompetent cronies he has installed in his cabinet, and the members of the Republican party in Congress and in the judiciary who support him, are a real and active threat to the American Republic, its Constitution, and the idealism it has stood up to support over the course of its existence. They are also a threat to me, personally, to my life and the lives of those I love.

Those within the Democratic party who are still passively responding to all of this, thinking they can still conduct business as usual and at some point, this will all go away and everything will return to normal, are as much of a threat to all of those things as this President himself.

Change must come, and action must be right behind, or what we have will be irretrievable. We can no longer afford interminable court delays by a reticent and incompetent attorney general, dithering over whether the filibuster is worth saving or not, or debating over whether giving the Republicans everything they wanted in a bill they authored without consulting a single Democrat is a better option than letting the government shut down as a consequence of something the other party did, and then fussing over who will get the blame.
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Democrats have a lot to consider, and better do it quickly. (Original Post) lees1975 Saturday OP
WE NEED NEW LEADERSHIP Skittles Saturday #1
Be. An. Opposition. Party. Beartracks Saturday #2
Quote from the OP lees1975 Saturday #3
The question that has been in my thoughts for months - yellow dahlia Saturday #4
We've had similar circumstances before, though not identical, the Southern states seceding over the election of Lincoln lees1975 Saturday #5
Well - they really are messing with Social Security...already. yellow dahlia Saturday #6

Beartracks

(13,833 posts)
2. Be. An. Opposition. Party.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 05:04 PM
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In today's political climate of hyper-partisanship engineered by conservative Republicans through bad-faith governance and right wing extremism, who exactly is yearning for Democrats to cooperate with their "friends across the aisle" in a purported show of bipartisanship that Dems seem to think will win them votes? That only serves to water down progressive policies and priorities such that the rightward slide toward oligarchy and fascism is merely slowed at best. Americans don't vote for Democrats to work with Republicans; we vote for Democrats to STOP Republicans.

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lees1975

(6,369 posts)
3. Quote from the OP
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 06:03 PM
Saturday
We have come to a point in our history where the biggest threat to the existence of the United States as the world's leading democracy is its own President.


So we must find a way to either get rid of that threat, legally and constitutionally, or neutralize it, legally and constitutionally. The options I see open to that are 1)his impeachment and removal from office, 2) his being declared incapacitated or mentally and physically unable to carry out the duties of the President, 3) his resignation from office and 4) his adjudication as a felon, specifically as a seditious insurrectionist.

Do Democrats have the creative and intellectual thinkers to figure out how to get this done? And do they have the cojones to do what needs to be done.

yellow dahlia

(2,094 posts)
4. The question that has been in my thoughts for months -
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 06:41 PM
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where are the minds who can come up with solutions?

What would our founding fathers do?

lees1975

(6,369 posts)
5. We've had similar circumstances before, though not identical, the Southern states seceding over the election of Lincoln
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:44 PM
Saturday

led ultimately to the decision to defend the Constitution from the internal threat with armed force, and while the goal of the confederates was to simply make the Union quit, they did not realize that the resolve in the President, and in Congress, was to preserve the Union, long past the more prudent "quitting points" of the war. Secession was a violation of the law of every one of the states whose legislatures voted to do it, going against their own law.

This President committed sedition, by instigating an insurrection and he is indicted by his own words, and still indicted by the law. No trial has been held, which is unfair and illegal from the perspective of those who are prosecuting him, the people. It may take some maneuvering, but making justice actually work would be a good place to start.

There are a lot of people who just don't think Republicans in Congress will do anything but stonewall for him. But if the threat to social security and medicare continue to ramp up the rhetoric, I would not count on Republican solidarity to protect this President. Self preservation among politicians is a strong instinct. I can see a trickle of opposition over those issues turning into a flood that brings down the dam pretty quickly. Impeachment and removal is not out of the question at all, if he really dares to mess with Social Security.

He'll cut Musk lose and shut down DOGE before it gets close to him.

yellow dahlia

(2,094 posts)
6. Well - they really are messing with Social Security...already.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:39 PM
Saturday

Are we going to cross another Rubicon? There are so many crossed already.

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