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Zorro

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Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:32 PM Monday

The US Is Losing the Contest to Divide the World

Splitting the globe into spheres of influence with China and Russia is more likely to lead to war than peace.

It was a “naughty document,” Winston Churchill admitted. In October 1944, the British prime minister proposed that he and Soviet ruler Joseph Stalin avert postwar conflict by splitting the Balkan Peninsula into separate spheres. Russia would reign supreme in Romania and Bulgaria; Britain in Greece; Hungary and Yugoslavia would be divided 50-50.

The proposal was scandalous enough that Churchill suggested burning the document that he and Stalin had just agreed on. It “might be thought rather cynical” to settle the fates of millions “in such an offhand manner,” he worried. “No, you keep it,” Stalin replied.

Churchill never showed that document to US President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was proclaiming America’s opposition to a peace based on spheres of influence. Yet the continent was soon divided, albeit along slightly different lines than Churchill had imagined. During the Cold War, Western Europe became an American sphere of influence; Eastern Europe was dominated by Moscow. Only when the Cold War ended, in a decisive Western triumph, was Eastern Europe freed.

In the heady, unipolar era that followed, the world seemed to have left such unseemly geopolitical arrangements behind. Today, however, it’s fair to wonder if the great powers might divide the world among them again.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/features/2025-03-31/us-is-losing-the-contest-to-divide-the-world-to-russia-china?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc0MzQ2MDMzOCwiZXhwIjoxNzQ0MDY1MTM4LCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJTVFpGUzREV1gyUFMwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiJDNjgyQTUwQzJCRDM0MTFCQTgwQjEwQjZEQjczQzM1MSJ9.IH6hCpf0PEh6NpIMVD7ii36HyUrvNn1xByaeuKM6aDs
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The US Is Losing the Contest to Divide the World (Original Post) Zorro Monday OP
Their plan: To Divide the World three ways: Putin, Stump and Xi. usonian Monday #1
...ODOR...(I saw what you did there) (n/t) wyn borkins Monday #2
I've been known to criticize EXECUTIVE ODORS as well. usonian Monday #3
Most-Worthy (!!!) (n/t) wyn borkins Monday #4
Thank you, share! n/t usonian Monday #5
Share! Will Do! Done! wyn borkins Monday #6
Not losing. Taking a dive. A corrupt, intentional failure. RockRaven Monday #7

usonian

(16,840 posts)
1. Their plan: To Divide the World three ways: Putin, Stump and Xi.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:54 PM
Monday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219940527
Short:
Financial Times, archived article
Canada, Trump and the new world order.

https://archive.md/XEEtx

Real short: (most of it is filler)


Focusing American power on its own hemisphere would allow Trump, in other words, to square many circles: to make America great again by making America’s imperial footprint smaller, to reduce the tax burden on the rich by cutting into the apparatus that a global imperium required.


So there it is. Give Europe to Putin, the rest of Asia (and presumably Africa) to Xi, and give most of the defense budget (and education and health care) money to the rich.

NEW WORLD ODOR


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