'Denied': Troopers refuse to release Trump assassination attempt records

[riversedge]

I have always thought police records were public records.
IMHO--Trump must have put a hold on them????


'Denied': Troopers refuse to release Trump assassination attempt records
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-assassination-2673343883/

Sarah K. Burris July 17, 2025 2:41PM ET

Nate Jones, the director of Freedom of Information Act requests at The Washington Post, revealed on Thursday that Pennsylvania State Police have refused to turn over the "after action report" in the assassination attempt against President Donald Trump last year.

Writing on X, Jones noted that both Butler County and state police confirmed the offices are "in possession of an after action report on 7/13/24 assassination attempt of Donald Trump."

Both refuse to release the report, however.

"Your request is denied as it seeks non-public records. the RTKL defines a 'public record' as '[a] record ... of a Commonwealth or local agency that (1) is not exepmpt under section 708; (2) is not expempt from being disclosed under any other Federal or State law or regulation or judicial order or decree; or (3) is not protected by a privilege," read the state polic letter.................

[Irish_Dem]

1. Too many screw ups for the public to ever see it.

Or maybe not mistakes, but deliberate incompetence.

[TheRickles]

2. Or maybe it unfolded exactly as planned.

[Scrivener7]

4. Check the reddit video I posted below. I think you're right.

[MadameButterfly]

5. yes, this helped him get elected and the myth he needs from this

may be refuted by facts

[Scrivener7]

3. There's a new video circulating on Reddit. It is taken from a different angle than the ones we've seen. It shows

a member of the Taco team being allowed to cross below the stage as Taco is on the ground, while no one should have been near the stage. That person then ushers a handful of photographers to the spot below the stage, then tells them to move to the right so they are positioned perfectly for the photo op. THEN the crane lowers the flag to be within the photo angle.

From the comments of the crowd, this all happens before the crowd knows whether he is alive or dead.

THEN Taco stands up and they take the perfect photo.

It was a hoax.

Here's a link. https://www.reddit.com/r/misc/comments/1m2aend/new_angle_of_trumps_assassination_attempt_what/

[Irish_Dem]

6. Wow. And it was strange that the SS was so slow getting Trump off the stage.

[Scrivener7]

8. I just edited that post to point out that all that activity to frame that perfect photo was

done before anyone in the crowd knew whether he was alive or dead. You can tell by the comments you hear.

And the people organizing it were not much closer to the SS scrum around Taco. So how did they know? It appears to have been carefully planned in advance.

[Irish_Dem]

12. When it comes to Trump and the MAGAs, nothing would surprise me. Nothing.

[Scrivener7]

18. I come from a family that had a small NYC construction company through the 1990s. I've been

watching him since the 80s when I first became aware of him stiffing my dad's friend for a subcontracting job, causing the guy to go bankrupt. So I've been aware of his scams since then, including the ones that basically destroyed Atlantic City and the endless lawsuits, general lawlessness, and serial bankruptcies.

Given that context, I would be surprised if it wasn't a hoax.

[Irish_Dem]

19. Exactly. Trump is a ruthless psychopath and career criminal.

He is running the Trump Family Crime Syndicate.

He is perfectly capable of staging a fake assassination attempt for attention, fame, marketing, PR, etc.

[raccoon]

25. Yeah, if any of you don't remember how the SS huddled over St. Ronnie after the assassination attempt on him,

look up a video of it.

They wouldn't let ANY president wander around and do a fist-up to show his "power" right after the attempt.

[Irish_Dem]

28. And stop to let him find his shoes and put them on.

They had no way of knowing there was another active shooter.

It was unbelievable.

[bdamomma]

47. It

was all to make him look invincible, but sadly 2 people got killed, which the felon does not give a crap about.

As Orrex posts every day, Is He Dead Yet??

[PSPS]

53. So obviously staged

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. That's typical confirmation bias.

The flag was not lowered. The frame of the camera moves up and wind blows the flag. If you look at the crane, it does not move. Yes, it conceivably could have winched it down a bit, but come on, get real. The confirmation bias requires the theorists to keep enlarging the size of the conspiracy.

Now they have they crane operator roped in. Told that when something happens, lower the flag a few feet but not too much. And here's a ton of money to keep quiet.

But they would not have crane operators in the two cranes the whole time. Two cranes. They would have been noticed.

No worries. The theorists invent people who are not there when the theory needs it. Because they can't be shown to be there or not there, it's ideal.

Not only are there all kinds of operatives required for this massive conspiracy but there are also operatives to pay off the operatives and enforcers to enforce silence and operatives to pay off the enforcers and enforcers to silence the operatives paying off the primary enforcers and keep the enforcers silent.

Detect an issue with the theory? No problem! Just expand the conspiracy and voila, you got it covered.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. The wind moved the flag and the camera moved. You can see it. There is no evidence crane operators lowered the flag

There is not even any evidence anybody was at the controls of the crane, but lack of evidence means theorists can invent stuff.

[Scrivener7]

20. I see no evidence for your position. Whereas the evidence in the film shows the careful

positioning of the photographers in the exact spot where they need to be, though there was no way anyone should have known where that exact spot should be, the lowering of the flag into the perfect position, and the fact that they kept Cankles on the ground just exactly long enough to get the photo set up.

So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. You need evidence, not me. Ball is in your court. With wind & camera movement shown, you need crane operator evidence

You don't have it.

Thing about confirmation bias is that it doesn't need evidence. Just claim the flags moved without a wider angle to provide evidence. There are wider angles of the scene. Find one, and apply measurements to the point where the flag is attached.

But you won't. And you can't, because measurements will show it didn't move. How do I know? I don't know. But it is not my theory. Ball is in your court. You need evidence. You don't have it.

[Scrivener7]

23. See if you can come up with any evidence for your position, Bernardo. In the meantime, have a lovely day.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

27. I already gave you the evidence and stated it twice. But, hey, it's more fun to add people to the conspiracy. . . nt

[JohnnyRingo]

21. You are correct. Such a plot could not be kept under wraps for long.

It would involve too many people that have to be sworn to silence. That never works.
Although the aide does seem to "usher" in the press, it's more likely he was just running across while the photographers did what press photographers do. - run toward the action.

Still, I'd think there would have been a secure perimeter by then, but that could be easily explained as incompetence.
The real clincher is Trump would never trust anyone to shoot a live round as close to his head without hitting him. Then kill an innocent bystander.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. We don't even know who the aide is. Could have been part of the media

The media has people like that so camera operators can operate without having to watch their backs or what they might back into, etc.

But, hey, it's real easy to claim that the person was a conspiracy operative, paid off and enforced along with the fireman's family and the crowd and the crane operators and the FBI and the Secret Service and the local cops and the shooter.

[NH Ethylene]

40. That's the problem I have with almost all conspiracy theories.

You can't keep a whole group of people from talking about it, completely and forever. It will leak out.

It seems very likely that Trump, et al would do something like faking an assassination attempt. What doesn't seem likely is that all the people who needed to be complicit - including the gunman himself - would go along with it and would afterward never tell a soul.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

41. Yes. And they also think tRump would willing put himself in the line of fire of a green sharpshooter. . . nt

[JohnnyRingo]

44. I like to say every conspiracy theory is a completed jig saw puzzle

...but there's always one integral piece that doesn't fit the picture. People usually pound it in with a mallet.

[Trueblue Texan]

49. Go get a protractor...

Note the difference between the angle of the top of the trees and the center of the boom at 1 second compared to the angle at 39 seconds. The boom was lowered. Go check.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

50. I checked. The crane did not move. The camera position moved up & sideways and shifted the frame. . . . nt

[Trueblue Texan]

56. yes the camera did move, but if you measure with a protractor you can see the angle

between the tree and the boom moved. That angle would not move with the lateral camera movement. I checked too.

[live love laugh]

14. And nobody moved from their seats. They just sat and clapped.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. They did not just sit there. So now the crowd is in on the conspiracy and paid off? Was the fireman similarly informed?

[live love laugh]

29. Are you?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

31. No. That's a question that shows how ridiculous the crane operator theory is. . . . nt

[live love laugh]

33. So I will put you down for no conspiracy. Got it. ✔️

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. Nothing I have written says there is no conspiracy.

There are questions I want answered.
There were multiple mistakes and security lapses.
A person died.

I have not ruled a conspiracy out, but they are highly unlikely and the theorists "evidence" does not meet proper standards and a lot of it is just supposition.

[harumph]

42. Scrivenor7, I went and looked at the video and as least regards the alleged lowering of the flag,

if you focus attention to the upper right corner of the video frame on the boom, you may notice there is a slight pulling back and
camera 'up-tilt' that reveals more of the boom and the flag enters the frame. IOW, no actual movement of the boom.

[Scrivener7]

43. There is, but there's a short stabilization of the camera as the flag comes down. In other words.

the camera doesn't move for a second or two while the flag comes down.

[Autumn]

45. I put nothing past Trump and his people. The fact that nothing has been released

on this bullshit play makes me lean into CT territory. His ear was pristine a few days later. I've seen more damage with an ear piercing than that silly thing.

[Dave Id]

7. Why won't they release the "Trump assassination records"?

My opinion, it would prove, it was staged.

[Orrex]

11. They should ask instead about the time he pretended to get shot

Calling it the “assassination attempt” probably confused the record keepers.

[MLWR]

15. As suspicious as this entire episode is, someone did, in fact, get shot and died.

[Scrivener7]

26. From their point of view, all the better. It surprises me that people think this would bother him.

And just to keep it accurate, two people died including the shooter who was a hapless maga who probably never knew he was the fall guy.
https://www.newsweek.com/thomas-matthew-crooks-donald-trump-sign-yard-neighbor-assassination-attempt-1925678

[Buddyzbuddy]

16. I imagine the after action report not only would show where mistakes were made but could help to refine any possible

future attempts. Therefore, I would guess they would not release that information to the public. I would also guess since it was a public rally, there would have been many cameras filming from multiple angles.

[doc03]

30. I can't believe the assassination attempt was staged but I don't think that was Trump's blood either.

[Pacifist Patriot]

38. I honestly don't know either way, but...

If not staged, I certainly wouldn't put anything past this lot for exploiting an unexpected situation and twisting it to their advantage.

[SheltieLover]

32. Shocking

[lonely bird]

34. Who knows?

Is there a cover up regarding incompetency? It would not surprise me.

I find it interesting that there were photos of the Orange Orangutan with a fucking mattress on his ear. That was for sympathy.

As for a CT? I have no opinion.

[twodogsbarking]

36. We can speculate but let us be reminded of the travesty of this event; he lived.

[Abstractartist]

37. Yup

Yup… they are not releasing anything that would show a totally fake assault or assassination attempt. Totally fake. No way his ear isn’t mush…. 👎🏻

[TheRickles]

46. The doctor's report from the emergency room or Walter Reed would describe the nature of his ear wound.

I'm sure they'll claim that release of such confidential information is prevented by HIPAA privacy concerns, but that information would be a clincher, IMO.

[PSPS]

54. LOL. "Ear wound"

[TheRickles]

55. Thanks for this great photo montage. It's just ridiculous.

[UpInArms]

39. What's "expempt"?

So bad, it’s a repeated error?

[Fiorillo]

48. Plastic shrapnel.

The reason they won't release the records, is it will show he was hit by shrapnel from the teleprompter.

[luvallpeeps]

51. The merch though.

I saw a lady pay with a credit card that had the fight, fight, fight picture on it within 3 weeks of the incident. So freaking gag-worthy.

[ck4829]

52. Very suspicious