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Dulcinea

(9,663 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 03:45 AM Oct 2025

Speaker Johnson said he'd swear in new House Democrat 'as soon as she wants.' Now Republicans are backtracking

(CNN) Speaker Mike Johnson is not planning to allow Democrats’ newest congresswoman-elect to be sworn-in until her party agrees to end the government shutdown, despite telling CNN earlier Tuesday that he would swear her in “as soon as she wants.”

“We will swear in Rep.-Elect [Adelita] Grijalva as soon as the House returns to session when Chuck Schumer, Mark Kelly and Ruben Gallego decide to open up the government,” a leadership aide said Tuesday.

The move amounts to an extraordinary power play to deny a sitting member a seat.

While the leadership aide contended “it’s a customary practice in the House to swear in members when the chamber is in legislative session,” Johnson swore in Florida GOP Reps. Jimmy Patronis and Randy Fine during a pro forma session earlier this year.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/07/politics/johnson-adelita-grijalva-swearing-in

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Speaker Johnson said he'd swear in new House Democrat 'as soon as she wants.' Now Republicans are backtracking (Original Post) Dulcinea Oct 2025 OP
First, words are cheap. no_hypocrisy Oct 2025 #1
IOKIYAR maxsolomon Oct 2025 #21
And the all-encompassing "NO FAIR REMEMBERING AT LEAST 10 MINUTES AGO" Montauk6 Oct 2025 #22
The basic attitude is try and stop us. maxsolomon Oct 2025 #23
And this so-called "Purple Revolution"... Montauk6 Oct 2025 #24
it's not how this shit is supposed to work Skittles Oct 2025 #2
What Johnson is doing is unconstitutional. SunSeeker Oct 2025 #3
"What Johnson is doing is unconstitutional." Grindr Mike doesn't care. Botany Oct 2025 #4
I don't understand why Arizona can't certify her election sooner BComplex Oct 2025 #12
Only the US House Speaker can swear in a new member SCantiGOP Oct 2025 #16
The Arizona Secretary of State is a Democrat, so I'm pretty sure if he could certify her sooner he would. SunSeeker Oct 2025 #19
He's a pathological liar The Wizard Oct 2025 #5
the house will never go back into session... Javaman Oct 2025 #6
Grindr Mike wolfie001 Oct 2025 #7
Little Mike's just trying to please his true Lord and Savior: donald fucking trump. (nt) Paladin Oct 2025 #8
They should get someone else to swear her in. nt Trueblue Texan Oct 2025 #9
Well we have 3 SCOTUS who can Historic NY Oct 2025 #13
I didn't know that. Maybe it is something we all need to make phone calls about Maraya1969 Oct 2025 #28
Fine. SHe wants. Now. DFW Oct 2025 #10
She can get a SCOTUS to swear her in Historic NY Oct 2025 #11
From the same people who changed the rules for Merrick Garland... Grins Oct 2025 #14
"Law & Order" is a TV show to the Repubs. nt Dulcinea Oct 2025 #18
This is exactly what they are going to do in January 2027 when they lose the house jgmiller Oct 2025 #15
Deny and delay... BattleRow Oct 2025 #20
Do your fucking job Johnson Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2025 #17
Why does swearing in matter? SpankMe Oct 2025 #25
It was a dumb stunt that gained them nothing. C_U_L8R Oct 2025 #26
personally keroro gunsou Oct 2025 #27
Can't stop wankin' around. calimary Oct 2025 #29
It should be made clear to the GQP leadership moniss Oct 9 #30

no_hypocrisy

(54,269 posts)
1. First, words are cheap.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:00 AM
Oct 2025

Second, Rep.-Elect [Adelita] Grijalva is NOT a bargaining chip.

Third, hypocrisy. Johnson swore in Florida GOP Reps. Jimmy Patronis and Randy Fine during a pro forma session earlier this year.

maxsolomon

(38,180 posts)
21. IOKIYAR
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 03:57 PM
Oct 2025

Remember this fundamental rule: It's OK If You're A Republican. Their situational reasoning doesn't require consistency.

maxsolomon

(38,180 posts)
23. The basic attitude is try and stop us.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 04:12 PM
Oct 2025

Just like denying Obama a SCOTUS pick. Dems couldn't force Repukes to do the right thing, and our weak ass Constitution relies on those in power acting in good faith.

The GOP ran over good faith with a locomotive.

Montauk6

(9,304 posts)
24. And this so-called "Purple Revolution"...
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 04:16 PM
Oct 2025

That locomotive had SOME MAGAts falling off and because they got muddied up they want us to forget how they fired up that train to begin with.

If that makes any sense, I sometimes experience self-bog, forgive me.

Skittles

(169,519 posts)
2. it's not how this shit is supposed to work
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:12 AM
Oct 2025

alas, we seem to be saying that about EVERYTHING, every fucking DAY

SunSeeker

(57,528 posts)
3. What Johnson is doing is unconstitutional.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:21 AM
Oct 2025

As Grijalva’s fellow Arizona Democrat, Rep. Greg Stanton, told Johnson in a Sept. 30 letter, Johnson’s blocking of Grijalva’s swearing-in is “depriving more than 800,000 Arizonans of their rightful voice in Congress,” which Stanton said is “a direct violation of both the Constitution’s guarantee of representation and the House’s duty to respect the will of the voters.”

Also, in Powell v. McCormack (1969) 395 U.S. 486, the Supreme Court ruled that the House cannot refuse to seat a member-elect who meets constitutional requirements and whose election is certified. The official certified results from Grijalva's election will be available October 14. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/rep-elect-adelita-grijalva-not-yet-sworn-in-amid-government-shutdown

If Johnson does not certify her after October 14, she should sue Johnson to compel her swearing in, citing Powell v. McCormack .

Botany

(76,388 posts)
4. "What Johnson is doing is unconstitutional." Grindr Mike doesn't care.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:04 AM
Oct 2025

However having free and fair elections* is provided for under the U.S. Constitution but these shits
are totally lawless people who see their #1 job is to support America’s Fascist State and protect its
Dictator, Donald J. Trump.

Hell, they are sending the U.S. Military and ICE agents into cities to stop people from using their
1st Amendment protected right to free speech as America’s is murdering people by blowing up
boats in international waters.

BTW nice post.

* https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the



BComplex

(9,748 posts)
12. I don't understand why Arizona can't certify her election sooner
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 08:30 AM
Oct 2025

Is there some Arizona constitutional reason that there is such a delay?

SunSeeker

(57,528 posts)
19. The Arizona Secretary of State is a Democrat, so I'm pretty sure if he could certify her sooner he would.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 01:59 PM
Oct 2025

The Wizard

(13,584 posts)
5. He's a pathological liar
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:07 AM
Oct 2025

and it's about time the media hold Johnson and the Republican cartel to task for their bad habit.

Javaman

(65,101 posts)
6. the house will never go back into session...
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:16 AM
Oct 2025

at least not in a reasonable time.

either the orange asshole drops dead or something else extraordinary happens around the only reasons they will convene again.

as long as they are out, the Epstein files won't be released, and that above all is what is controlling everything.

DFW

(59,729 posts)
10. Fine. SHe wants. Now.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:13 AM
Oct 2025

Is your word good, or is it as phony as your Grecian Formula 16 hair dye?

Historic NY

(39,642 posts)
11. She can get a SCOTUS to swear her in
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 08:24 AM
Oct 2025

WTF not do that instead of making a big production of not being sworn . Do it live on the TV. Mike Johnson would shit

Grins

(9,245 posts)
14. From the same people who changed the rules for Merrick Garland...
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 08:33 AM
Oct 2025

Democrats follow the rules and norms.

"Law n' Order" Republicans just do it anyhow.

jgmiller

(670 posts)
15. This is exactly what they are going to do in January 2027 when they lose the house
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 08:39 AM
Oct 2025

They don't need to fix the election or try to stop the election. They will simply say "There was massive fraud in CA, NY, IL, etc and we can't swear in these people until we investigate." They are proving over and over again it's much easier to ignore the law with a bad excuse than to go to the trouble of rigging elections or declaring martial law.

SpankMe

(3,658 posts)
25. Why does swearing in matter?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:39 PM
Oct 2025

I just looked it up - Rep Grijalva's election was certified by the AZ SoS last year. She's the duly elected rep.

The Dems should frame the swearing in as a mere ceremonial formality and start including her in the daily routine.

I imagine Johnson can hold her back from being put in the computers for the vote-tabulating machines, email and other logistics. Maybe he can even deny her office space or a physical seat in the chamber or credentials for accessing the Capitol building itself until she's sworn in.

But, Dems should be assholes about it and administratively insert Grijalva into any process they can.

If Repubs were in this position, they'd jut bypass swearing in and carry on as normal. We should do the same to the greatest extent possible.

C_U_L8R

(48,864 posts)
26. It was a dumb stunt that gained them nothing.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:48 PM
Oct 2025

Last edited Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:50 PM - Edit history (1)

All they seem to have are dumb stunts.

moniss

(8,700 posts)
30. It should be made clear to the GQP leadership
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:36 AM
Oct 9

in both chambers that unless she is sworn in immediately that when we regain control we will make it take as long as nearly an entire Congressional term for swearing in their people.

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