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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(132,412 posts)
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:02 PM 20 hrs ago

What would surprise Jesus about Christmas in 2025

By Nicholas Kristof / The New York Times

This is the latest in my occasional series of conversations about Christianity. Previously, I spoke with the Rev. Timothy Keller, President Jimmy Carter, evangelical writer Beth Moore, professor Elaine Pagels and others.Here I speak with Bart Ehrman, a prominent New Testament scholar at the University of North Carolina and the author or editor of more than 30 books. Our conversation has been edited for clarity and length.

Question: You have a new book coming out soon, “Love Thy Stranger,” arguing that Jesus taught a revolutionary message that transformed Western moral thinking. What was that message?

Answer: The heart of Jesus’ message is that loving “others” means caring not only for family and friends but even for strangers — whoever is in need, whether we know them or whether they are like us. This kind of altruism was not promoted — or even accepted — in the Greek and Roman worlds that Jesus came out of. But it is a view that completely transformed the thinking and ethical priorities of the Western world down till today.

Q: I admire that message of Jesus about helping strangers, but did it really transform the moral conscience of the West? White evangelicals overwhelmingly voted for President Donald Trump, and he’s not helping strangers but deporting them and breaking up families.

A: That’s right: A number of outspoken Christian leaders and Christian communities promote views that are quite contrary to the teachings of Jesus. Even so, his teachings continue to affect most people in the West, whether Christian or not. When a hurricane hits, many of us feel inclined to send money for disaster relief. Or we volunteer in soup kitchens to help people we don’t know. These practices are rooted in teachings of Jesus that became ethical norms once Christianity became the dominant religion of the West.

https://www.heraldnet.com/opinion/comment-what-would-surprise-jesus-about-christmas-in-2025/

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What would surprise Jesus about Christmas in 2025 (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 20 hrs ago OP
Jesus would probably say Aviation Pro 20 hrs ago #1
That our president is 34 time convected felon, cheap con man and doc03 20 hrs ago #2
That such an easy teaching - The Golden Rule - is ignored NewHendoLib 20 hrs ago #3
That they could file their taxes online displacedvermoter 20 hrs ago #4
That so many spent last night in a Holiday Inn Express. Sneederbunk 20 hrs ago #5
he could use AI to fake that resurrection bit nt msongs 20 hrs ago #6
For them, It's all about faith, not any actual works and according to the scripture they subscribe to, surfered 19 hrs ago #7
Well..... FarPoint 19 hrs ago #8
What really surprised Jesus was when they removed the sack from his head Brother Buzz 17 hrs ago #9
that so many people believe in this delusion en masse Skittles 16 hrs ago #10
Two millenia later, I'll go with ... cars. Intractable 36 min ago #11

displacedvermoter

(4,088 posts)
4. That they could file their taxes online
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:14 PM
20 hrs ago

and didn't have to make the journey to Bethlehem which started this whole Christmas thing.

surfered

(11,143 posts)
7. For them, It's all about faith, not any actual works and according to the scripture they subscribe to,
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:34 PM
19 hrs ago

It will not end well for them. According to Matthew in the parable of the Sheep and the Goats, they will be condemned to Hell for not welcoming the stranger.

FarPoint

(14,490 posts)
8. Well.....
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 05:03 PM
19 hrs ago

Jesus is/was a Palestinian Jewish man....to see how the Israeli pResident is treating the Palestinian people.... that would be shocking to Jesus.

Brother Buzz

(39,520 posts)
9. What really surprised Jesus was when they removed the sack from his head
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 07:13 PM
17 hrs ago

He discovered he was parked in an El Salvador prison, CECOT.

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