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Gavin Newsom recall election is turning into landslide, poll shows (Original Post) The Mouth Sep 2021 OP
M'okey wit dat lambchopp59 Sep 2021 #1
Dinner at French Laundry WA-03 Democrat Sep 2021 #5
To me that dinner thing was a stupid lack of judgement, but a blip Merlot Sep 2021 #13
agree...amazing how much legs this has... bahboo Sep 2021 #21
And he acknowledged it was xxqqqzme Sep 2021 #28
Perhaps folks are looking at Texas and thinking they should take this election business seriously. Midnight Writer Sep 2021 #2
GOTV, my friends. East-A-Squared Sep 2021 #3
I won't until the recall goes down in flames. Then I will call my legislators and demand they JohnSJ Sep 2021 #4
ALL OF THE ABOVE! WA-03 Democrat Sep 2021 #6
I know TFG was all about revenge politics, but... NCDem47 Sep 2021 #7
On one hand, that would be nice The Mouth Sep 2021 #16
It isn't hubris at all. California is the odd man out on how they deal with recalls compared to JohnSJ Sep 2021 #25
Excellent ideas The Mouth Sep 2021 #17
I agree a recall election should have at least 25% of the voters sign a petition. ShazamIam Sep 2021 #24
#VoteNoCalifornia oswaldactedalone Sep 2021 #8
I wonder if the surge has been affected by the goings on in Tx? n/t Peregrine Took Sep 2021 #9
This post headline had me worried Merlot Sep 2021 #10
I just used the original title The Mouth Sep 2021 #11
I though as much, headline written for click bait Merlot Sep 2021 #12
Oh, well The Mouth Sep 2021 #15
Using the original title makes it *much* easier The Mouth Sep 2021 #26
Meanwhile, I'm getting spammed with texts begging for money. Auggie Sep 2021 #14
Good! Send the damn bill for holding the recall to the damn republicans in CA. Why should ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2021 #18
I think they want the Democratic voters to relax and not bother mailing that ballot in. ShazamIam Sep 2021 #19
I think the SF Chronicle would enjoy having Larry Elder The Mouth Sep 2021 #22
I think I'll wait to celebrate until the ballots are tallied. Sinistrous Sep 2021 #20
Never a bad idea The Mouth Sep 2021 #23
Thought exercise: If Newsome somehow loses (which I don't think will be the case)... Starfury Sep 2021 #27
Great idea The Mouth Sep 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Sep 2021 #29
A friend in PA asked me about local sentiment on the recall Unwind Your Mind Sep 2021 #31
That is my take, too The Mouth Sep 2021 #32

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
1. M'okey wit dat
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:42 AM
Sep 2021

Primarily because, frankly I was tremendously disappointed when Newsom enacted lockdown measures, turned right around to a family dinner out. There was justification for some admonition there.
Otherwise I've liked him all along.
But the recall effort clowns collecting petition signatures were only spouting nonsense RWNJ conspiracy crap.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,266 posts)
5. Dinner at French Laundry
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:11 AM
Sep 2021

It was a mistake. I’ve eaten their a few times and had to pay for it once too which is the only negative thing. It’s not worth COVID but I think it’s the best restaurant in California. Gavin screwed up but kept this eye on the ball. All while running up a state financial surplus and keeping the people as safe as possible.

This is unpopular but I think he should run for President. He has the credentials.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
13. To me that dinner thing was a stupid lack of judgement, but a blip
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:58 AM
Sep 2021

when considered against all the positive work he's' doing for the state. It was the only talking point the republicans had when they started this partisan recall.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
28. And he acknowledged it was
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 10:21 AM
Sep 2021

a dumb thing to do and apologize. WTF California? He stood up to he who shall not be named and got what California needed when government stores of PPEs were being sold to the highest bidders. His Monday morning Covid briefings were packed with information. I rarely missed one.

He was not my first choice for Governor but I'm glad we had him when the pandemic hit.

Mailed my NO ballot the day after I received it. Democrats have to vote. Remind your friends and family to vote. Then remind them again

JohnSJ

(96,485 posts)
4. I won't until the recall goes down in flames. Then I will call my legislators and demand they
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:00 AM
Sep 2021

change our crazy recall process. Increase the number of signatures required to at least 25%, and instead of a costly new election if a recall is successful, have the LT Governor become Governor

NCDem47

(2,587 posts)
7. I know TFG was all about revenge politics, but...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:35 AM
Sep 2021

When Newsom comes out of this, both he and Calif. Dems need to flex their muscles right in Republicans faces. Show them who owns the state. It would be like having a double mandate.

The Mouth

(3,284 posts)
16. On one hand, that would be nice
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:12 AM
Sep 2021

on the other, we risk hubris. Just because we have a supermajority doesn't mean we can get away with anything at all.

I don't like hubris, it usually comes right before a nasty fall.

JohnSJ

(96,485 posts)
25. It isn't hubris at all. California is the odd man out on how they deal with recalls compared to
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 02:24 PM
Sep 2021

other states

We have an unusually low threshold of 11%, other states have at least 25%, and they should have the lt governor be the replacement until the next scheduled election

Our recall process is abused, and it will cost us 250 million dollars, not because Newsom did something illegal, but political ideology difference, and allow a minority to replace him

That is hubris

The Mouth

(3,284 posts)
17. Excellent ideas
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:14 AM
Sep 2021

25 percent is reasonable; if you have that much of the electorate pissed, you need at least a bit of shaking up. And having the LT Gov take over is very sensible, too.

The Mouth

(3,284 posts)
11. I just used the original title
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:53 AM
Sep 2021

which is what I always do and will do

Thanks.

Yeah, I was a bit worried when I saw it in the Comical, too.

The Mouth

(3,284 posts)
26. Using the original title makes it *much* easier
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:15 PM
Sep 2021

for someone to search first before posting the same damned thing again (and again and again).

This was a specific request from Earl G in Latest Breaking News and it makes more sense than worrying about someone's reaction to what they consider 'clickbait'.

"Use the published title of the story as the title of the discussion thread"

Regards.

Auggie

(31,786 posts)
14. Meanwhile, I'm getting spammed with texts begging for money.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:00 AM
Sep 2021

Saying Newsome is way behind. Is anybody else getting them?

SWBTATTReg

(24,074 posts)
18. Good! Send the damn bill for holding the recall to the damn republicans in CA. Why should ...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:15 AM
Sep 2021

taxpayers pay for this unneeded mess? Only one group had any vested interest in removing a very popular governor, and their name begins w/ a big fat 'R'.

The Mouth

(3,284 posts)
22. I think the SF Chronicle would enjoy having Larry Elder
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:00 PM
Sep 2021

I mean tRump was a godsend to newspapers everywhere; every fucking day some new, entertaining shitpile.

President Biden is boring by comparison, which means fewer eyeballs and less $$

So you might have a point.

Starfury

(821 posts)
27. Thought exercise: If Newsome somehow loses (which I don't think will be the case)...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:27 PM
Sep 2021

How many hours pass before we start the recall process vs. Elder? And include Newsom on the replacement list?

Response to The Mouth (Original post)

Unwind Your Mind

(2,143 posts)
31. A friend in PA asked me about local sentiment on the recall
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 09:20 AM
Sep 2021

I had to think for a minute but I think the most important part is this: most people I talk to are worried about their kids in school and Covid. They sure as hell don’t want a Governor who they know will make that situation worse.

The Mouth

(3,284 posts)
32. That is my take, too
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 10:39 AM
Sep 2021

Newsom is not 'likeable', he was far from the best person we could have run, indeed I have a bit of sympathy for Republicans as far as liking the policies but disliking the person.

But the alternative is utter, batshit crazy.

I liked Chiang and Eastin much, much better in the primary and either could have beaten Cox who was, and is, pathetic in every dimension, but Gavin is good on LGBTQ and the environment regardless of his ineptitude on the fires. Indeed it's the failure to beef up wildfire fighting enough that seems to be the biggest issue with my neighbors (such as getting rid of the 747 that dropped lifesaving fire suppression last season), but Elder would just laugh as stuff burned and cut even more.

Elder would be an unmitigated disaster on Covid. The man is a fool.

The ultimate solution is to go to 25% voters needed for recall and the automatic accession of the Lt Governor in the event of one succeeding.


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