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45 has commuted Blago's sentence. (Original Post) murielm99 Feb 2020 OP
So maybe 45 is just warming up the pardon pen notinkansas Feb 2020 #1
It is some kind of diversion or he is just getting people used to pardons redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #3
45 will give him a job in DC don't worry. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #2
I think Trump's making a play for Illinois customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #4
Those blue areas are the population centers. murielm99 Feb 2020 #5
I didn't say that I thought it would work customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #6
Another reason might be that this Senate seat, murielm99 Feb 2020 #7
Could be a twofer. customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #8
I don't think Blago has any constituency remaining in Illinois, does he? Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2020 #9
Chicago politics customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #10
There are wealthy republicans in this state, murielm99 Feb 2020 #12
Primary Underwood? blue-wave Feb 2020 #14
Where do you get your information about Chicago politics? murielm99 Feb 2020 #13
I lived in the shadow of it for years customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #17
Blago has no friends here. murielm99 Feb 2020 #18
Well, Donald was busy today!! blue-wave Feb 2020 #11
The best theory I've heard is that it's to make his upcoming crony pardons appear more palatable. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2020 #16
Possible, very possible blue-wave Feb 2020 #19
he did this because he thinks comey had something to do w it. mopinko Feb 2020 #15

redstatebluegirl

(12,475 posts)
3. It is some kind of diversion or he is just getting people used to pardons
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 03:37 PM
Feb 2020

so when he pardons Stone and Flynn nobody notices.

customerserviceguy

(25,185 posts)
4. I think Trump's making a play for Illinois
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 03:55 PM
Feb 2020


When you look at the Illinois general election vote totals, it went about 56% Hillary to 39% Trump, but when you look at the map, you see that if there are any friends Blago still has in the Chicago area, they might be persuaded to not actively oppose Trump's re-election. Add to that the fact that Illinois, like a lot of blue states has vast areas of red, with voters who usually know that their votes are not going to count in the Electoral College.

You can be sure that Trump will hammer like hell on rural communities in blue states to GOTV, and deny us the "well, we won the popular vote" argument in a second Trump term.

murielm99

(31,428 posts)
5. Those blue areas are the population centers.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 04:12 PM
Feb 2020

There has been a lot of demographic change in the red areas as well. Last time, some areas went blue for the first time in a century, like DuPage County. My son lives there.

There are some flippable red areas as well, like my county.

My state will stay blue. Let the trumpers come here. We will fight them tooth and nail.

murielm99

(31,428 posts)
7. Another reason might be that this Senate seat,
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 05:56 PM
Feb 2020

the one Blago tried to sell, had been Obama's. 45 will do anything to take a swipe at Obama.

customerserviceguy

(25,185 posts)
8. Could be a twofer.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 06:00 PM
Feb 2020

I'm not sure how commuting Blago's prison time is a poke in the eye to President Obama.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
9. I don't think Blago has any constituency remaining in Illinois, does he?
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:51 PM
Feb 2020

Republicans never liked him and Democrats were never more than cautiously supportive, which evaporated the moment he was nailed.
This move may just be a matter of grifter professional courtesy.

(PS for the record as little as I think of Blago, I do think the length his sentence was excessive.)

customerserviceguy

(25,185 posts)
10. Chicago politics
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:25 PM
Feb 2020

means you always have friends. And he took the hit himself without taking anyone else down. It wasn't just Blago and his wife & family who pushed Trump for this commutation. Also, the other pardons were for people who had long served their sentence, if I'm correct, so this one would be the most potential political trouble for Trump.

Somebody convinced Trump to do it, and my guess is that they convinced Trump they have some political connections in Illinois that would give him an edge in November.

Trump never does anything just for the good.

murielm99

(31,428 posts)
12. There are wealthy republicans in this state,
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 02:49 AM
Feb 2020

and out of state who try to make inroads where they can. A friend of mine ran a good campaign for state rep. in my district. She despises her repiggie family and seldom speaks to them. Her brother called her on behalf of some of them right after Lauren Underwood won her seat. He wanted her to primary Underwood this time around. She called him names and hung up. But she made it clear to everyone she could find that Underwood is being targeted.

A few years ago, they gave us a really nasty mayor in Rockford, a so-called independent. He was not much of a mayor. Now there is a decent Democrat back in the office. He seems to get along with the black community as well, at least according to my sources there.

When these repiggies run for office, it can be enlightening to look at the Illinois Board of Elections website for their financial disclosure. It is interesting to see where the money comes from, and then to Google the names of the contributors. Fortunately, money does not always win the day. We have had enough of republicans here, in most cases. Rauner ruined it for them, at least for a while. People do have short memories, though.

customerserviceguy

(25,185 posts)
17. I lived in the shadow of it for years
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 01:48 PM
Feb 2020

and have followed it since. Even though I was a kid, I still remember Mayor Dailey's machine politics and what my Democratic-voting parents and grandparents thought about it.

blue-wave

(4,488 posts)
11. Well, Donald was busy today!!
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 02:42 AM
Feb 2020

I heard when he signed all the commutation and pardon papers, he mentioned to everyone that he will pardon them all as long as they don't talk to the Fed's. OK, not really.


And Blago? Who in Democratic circles, especially in Illinois, is going to hire him? Will he go republicon? Maybe. But the guy will need to earn to a living. My guess. A move out of Illinois and a few book deals at first. From there who knows.

My worry is that tRump does nothing unless it helps him. What kind of help is he betting on with this move?

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
16. The best theory I've heard is that it's to make his upcoming crony pardons appear more palatable.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 10:32 AM
Feb 2020

Blago is nothing to him and there's no direct benefit to Trump. But commuting his sentence for being excessive helps Trump build a doctrine by which he'll later publicly rationalize pardoning guys like Stone and Manafort.

mopinko

(71,789 posts)
15. he did this because he thinks comey had something to do w it.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 09:21 AM
Feb 2020

there is no strategery here. he saw patty on fox.
it will buy him nothing here.

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