*Update Post #9, not good* - Asking about 5G - vs DSL wifi, fiber optic
Along the lines of being extremely Low Tech, my internet use is basic - email, about a dozen news websites, Roku Stick, tablet with the same basics - along the lines of how comedians joke about their elderly relatives doing this.
I've been on DSL router/modem? with a Local (not national) provider for 15-20 years, almost entirely without problems. About six months ago there were several outages, with the provider sending a tech who checked the outside connection box and the inside wiring from an ancient landline jack, and the main telephone company laid a new outside cable. Ended up buying a second router/modem from the provider. Things sort of settled down, then another outage and I asked about fiber optics which was not fully covering this area and a sales tech from the fiber place came around, and the price was $20 more per month than the DSL.
Meanwhile, my phone from a second tier national company works with wifi (plus 5G when I'm out and about) . And they have a 5G product about the size of my router/modem that plugs into the wall (no cable). The price comes to the same as the fiber optic.
********QUESTIONS:
* Is the 5G (home internet) covering the same as the current DSL - wifi, laptop, tablet, Roku?
* Is the 5G same, better, worse than fiber optic?
* Any other ups and downs. Tia

Maninacan
(148 posts)I finally got fiber optic. Prefer over 5g for reliability.
UTUSN
(74,597 posts)* fiber optic is via an outside box via satellite, better than my phone's tower and has nothing to do with the ancient and discontinued phone jack belonging to the mother phone company.
He fairly much torpedoed the phone provider's 5G box. Am heavily leaning toward the fiber thing. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
justaprogressive
(4,354 posts)is on local Gbit fiber. It's the best there is.
UTUSN
(74,597 posts)justaprogressive
(4,354 posts)Gigabit Fiber-optic
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UTUSN
(74,597 posts)UTUSN
(74,597 posts)So I had given the context as in paragraph 2 in the OP on the phone with the provider office tech in the morning with the result being their sending a tech to zap tests at the outside and inside wiring. I went on record that all that had been done a couple of times in the past, asking what was different now since the telephone company had laid a new outside cable and I had bought an inside phone wire and a new router. They said their meter reading showed I was only getting 1 something of current now whereas the past readings had been 10 or something and peak is supposed to be 25 or something. Fine. So then the usual scheduling six hours later in the day. I said so I would be able to leave for errands and be back for that time, fine.
The previous young tech who sold me the new router and answered some questions about fiber optic lacked a phone short wire to test the jack and I had a brand new one that had come with something that was too short to reach the router, so he eagerly used mine. At the end of the visit, I noticed my short wire (that I didn't need anyway) was gone, the kid having taken it with him on auto-pilot (I'm sure). He had had a slightly smarty edge to him, asking, "Do you *know* what fiber optic *is*?" I said all I needed to know was that it was better than DSL.
So this new young tech was more down to earth without attitude and went through the same old paces outside box, inside jack, handling the router. I noticed he had his own short phone wire for his meter test thing for the jack, but otherwise I don't know enough about whatever and just let workers do their thing without observing what they're doing. So with my recitation of all the context of the past service calls, he was particularly interested in my point that I had back then tried to buy a new jack and found out from the mother phone company that jacks are obsolete, not used by the phone company any more and that eBay if anything might only be a source. This means that the information I provide turns out to shape what the technician's eventual conclusion will be.
So, after I interrogated about 5G vs fiber optic, my telling what I had learned, that my phone provider's 5G comes via towers and his telling me that his fiber optic is via satellite, I told him I would go with the fiber. His company has the fiber branch but he didn't try to hard sell, said I could try the current status with the router until problems developed again. I said that the past few months with this new router were already my trying-out period. So his conclusion was: Ta-DA, that with all my context, the problem was probably THE JACK of course. The unreplaceable jack. Of course. So I told him to go ahead and put in for the fiber optic. Fine.
So all this time since this morning the internet was solid. Saying he was going to give everything a fast look "to make sure everything is covered," he did that and left. Fine. -----------Can you see it coming? As soon as he was gone -----------------ta-DA, the thing went down, no internet same as this morning. It had been an anxious and tiring day, and resigned myself to doing without my main activity (internet, YouTube) until calling the DSL tomorrow and who knows when the fiber optic will be done. So I went for a nap. Another little irritant occurred that had to be taken care of before napping, so that happened. Finally the nap.
Rousing, went to check out the router again, unplugging and plugging to the power. Nothing. It had been about four hours with only the phone connected with a night to come without YouTube history video to sleep through. Sat pondering for awhile, then thought about the only thing I hadn't tried: I saw the tech unplug the phone wire from the jack and check the jack. So went to the jack on the outside chance the wire might not be plugged in enough. It was plugged, the only way it could be.
***************Came back to my chair and sat there awhile and THEN saw the other end of the phone wire dangling from my printer! The kid had forgotten to plug it in to the router! My next low tech problem was where to plug it to the router. Looking at the back of the router there was only one slot it would fit and it was labelled DSL! Bingo! Plugged but internet lights didn't go on for about 15 minutes. Was thinking again about the call tomorrow. Finally the lights went on.
*** I've worried about what seems to be increasing "auto pilot" - misplacing things, but I'm old. So it turns out younger ones do the same: Carpenters leave hammers behind, these two techs took a wire and didn't plug in the router wire, the latter despite having checked "to make sure I covered everything."
UTUSN
(74,597 posts)So, he went about his routine meter checks, outside box, inside phone line, like he knew the basics. I provided some superficial info I had gathered from my non tech level, and he expanded on what I told him and ended in concluding what I had fed him.
So, as for my phone provider having a 5G router type thing that plugs into the wall, which I mentioned comes from a tower, he said that his fiber provider installs a box on the side of the house and the signal comes via a satellite and is much more reliable and IS available in my area blah blah fine. He provided the number for Sales but said he would tell them and they would call me.
*** So today the DSL went out, the third day in a row. I called the office tech support and they looked into the system by phone again and again without identifying the problem did something like a surge and the DSL was back. I asked about the fiber people and they transferred me.
Here's the kicker. Talking to fiber Sales, no their thing is not by satellite, is by cable same as for tv cable providers, is not available yet in my area and there is no estimate for when it will be since it will depend on numbers of demand, so the prospect is unknown.
Bottom line, can just hang in there for whenever and call office tech support every time DSL goes down.
*** So my prospect: I don't like the land cable connection scenario, would do that with the cable company if it comes down to that, so this sort of rules out the fiber thing. Brings me back to the wall plug-in 5G from my phone provider, thinking.
I don't blame the kid tech, but he shouldn't talk through his hat.
hunter
(39,592 posts)... we got that because my wife needed it for work. This was before Pacific Bell or Comcast even offered high speed internet to residential customers in our area. Mostly Pac Bell wanted to sell us a hideously expensive ISDN service and they didn't tell us we had other options. We discovered those on our own.
Our original high speed internet service morphed into a fairly conventional DSL service when AT&T started offering DSL to it's own customers. For many years it was solidly reliable.
In recent years the DSL service got flaky and it's become pretty clear that AT&T isn't interested in maintaining its wired infrastructure here and wants everyone to switch to wireless. They send me all sorts of offers in the mail for "free" iPhones, discounted wireless internet service, etc.
So do the other cell phone carriers.
Can you get unlimited 5G internet in your area from your present cell phone carrier?
One of my kids is satisfied with that. When they were working at home during the COVID epidemic they pretty much required home fiber but now that they are back to their office and living in a different place they are saving some money using the unlimited 5G service available from their cell phone provider. It's pretty good from what I've seen.
My wife and I switched to a direct "fixed wireless" connection from our local provider but that's only possible because we're line-of-site to one of their towers. That service has been solid.
I won't do business with Comcast or Elon Musk.
UTUSN
(74,597 posts)My constant disclaimer about being extremely Low Tech, means that I don't know enough to answer questions. My cell carrier has a box? that plugs into the wall that I've been tempted to try and because of my recent experiences described above have been leaning more to. But I've seen a few YouTubes about setting up this specific box and it's daunting despite being promoted as simple to set up. And then some reviews have been explicit about what you are intimating that the signal might not be consistently reliable and slower?
Plus, the description by the provider mentions that, despite no contract, the box is not owned, has to be returned if quit on.
One review suggested trying it out without canceling the current DSL. What do you think: I've flirted with paying the $50 for the month of box and going through the setup and see what happens.
I'm an at-home user and don't do games, only the most basic "elderly" user of light email, mostly DU and very few light use news sites, but EXTREME with YouTubes through Roku Stick+ (where I get the YouTube).
Thanks for the insight!
hunter
(39,592 posts)It was just a matter of taking it home, plugging it in and signing all their wifi devices into the new service. The name of the wifi server and password can be changed at any time if you wish but leaving it the way you got it, using the password printed on the back of the wireless modem, works too.
When we've visited 1080p Netflix doesn't seem to have any glitches even during "prime time" and is better than our old DSL used to be.
I don't know how close they are to the cell phone tower. I've heard the quality of service can vary a lot depending on location and provider.
If your Roku can be plugged directly into an ethernet port (usually via an optional cable) the wireless modem has an ethernet port too, the same as most DSL modems.