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http://www.democraticunderground.com/125519168#post6
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....they believe they are furthering women's rights by cluck clucking their tongues at women who "don't do feminism how it SHOULD and NEEDS to be done".
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 5, 2013, 10:52 AM - Edit history (10)
CokeMachine
(1,018 posts)Tit picture.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Every time a man gets an erection, God kills a kitten.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Pretty much sank the S.S. Dworkin with one shot.
It's fairly clear, after reading that thread, that there's no coherent principle involved whatsoever beyond "n00d pictures R Bad!"
They're just making shit up as they go along.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)LadyHawk is very high on my list of Favorite DUers, for many reasons. This kind of slice-to-the-bone callout is paramount among them. She won the Internet for this one. She gets the pony of her choice.
libodem
(19,288 posts)I don't much care what they say. But they are sure bemoaning the state of DU and calling out posters by name. Also quite a big hope hoops grave dance in ATA, he was apparently back under a pseudonym. You can see they target and wage war on people, then rejoice at the banning.
'They' scare the shit out of me.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)theKed
(1,235 posts)but should you disagree with that, why, you're just a right wing neocon ideologue.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Uh, yeah, and about that.... did you hear, a funny thing happened on the way to the laundromat:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=302058&sub=trans
Personally, I've only sent one alert in the past 2 weeks -the post got hidden- and it wasn't ANY of the ones they're complaining about over there.
But given the fact I've had some of the most ridiculous alerts in the DU universe thrown at me (like for saying "iverglas", or for saying I don't think "objectification theory" is a hard scientific concept, for instance) I find the complaints around "obsessive alerting" a little bit methinks-someone-doth-protest-too-much funny.
theKed
(1,235 posts)For those times when you're just not done tearing a strip off of the damn menfolk, alerts be damned!
I've sent i think...1? maybe 2? in a month. I could count on one hand all the alerts I've ever sent. It really should, by all rights, much more than that with the amount of personal attacks slung around. But, that's just not the sort of guy I am, I guess. Is that benevolent sexism? I expect I've gotten a lot of alerts in the past...and a few hides.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)Shouldn`t that have earned someone a blanket PPR?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I'm seeing a lot of that, lately.
Apparently the fight against nekkid booberz and the dudebro gaze is so vital that all rules can be tossed out the window in pursuit of "the greater good". Even while demanding that the rules be strenuously applied to the bad peoplez, including inventing rules that don't actually exist.
Hell, if people want admin to be tougher on zombies and socks, I'm all for it. I was for it before they were. NO ONE is bigger on that idea.
But let's not play the game of "person H came back and everyone knew and no one did anything about it" (particularly if it's not true) while simultaneously, knowingly, deliberately covering for person(s) S,F,I,E etc. who return with distressing regularity over from their blog(s) after being banned so many times for bigotry, etc.
I've seen several thinly veiled calls for MY banning in recent days, which is funny, because honestly while I may strenuously piss some people off with my opinions (namely, that pictures of naked consenting adults don't hurt anyone, and "Feminism" to me means equal rights and reproductive freedom, not Burqas and censorship) I really do -I think- a fairly decent job of following the rules of this place, and I don't fly off with direct personal attacks and insults unlike some members cough cough. Closest I come, I think, is maybe occasionally calling some people on their post-modern sentence structure. I plead guilty on that.
But shit, even my transparency page is relatively clean, although my alerty friends did get one the other day, first one in a while. (Congratulations, my friend! )
opiate69
(10,129 posts)opiate69
(10,129 posts)But..... (you knew there had to be a "but"... )
From the ToS:
Seems pretty cut & dried to me...
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Tough to drain a swamp under those conditions.
He's basically getting lectured and finger-wagged on his own website, over there in ATA; the gist of it being that the ever pressing quest to "fix" the TOS basically amounts to the old demand that all of DU accept a certain narrow definition of what constitutes, of course, "misogyny" and "sexism":
primarily meaning anyone who uses a word off "the list" (except the permanently exempt, who can say whatever they want, just becuzzzz) anyone who expresses appreciation for the human body, anyone who doesn't agree that naked pictures of consenting adults are TEH MOST WORSTEST OPPRESSION EVAH!!!, or anyone who disagrees with the self-appointed "educators" and ideological gatekeepers on, basically, anything...
No surprise, of course.
But given recent events, I'm thinking of sending this place another donation. No gig is worth putting up with some of this crap, I'd suspect.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)And, typically, disrespectful as fuck. I`m thinking about tossing a twenty into the pot as well, but I think I want to wait until I see if imenja gets to join her sock first.
edit: btw.. like the new sig?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If I were to start listing the departed sock hop in my sig, I'd run out of room fast. Too many names to keep track.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)And, you always seem to be ahead of the curve on ferreting them out.. nicely done.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)You owe me a new keyboard.
Little fella still cracks me up, although if I was picking names now I'd probably go with "Cheryl Tunt"
opiate69
(10,129 posts)I haven't seen Archer yet, but coincidentally enough, my local radio guys had Chris Parnell on yesterday morning.. It sounds like my kind of show.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)ones I remember, although they were running them on IFC when I watched 'em. Some of that stuff is pretty funny. I remember there's some episode with Warren and a video camera and he's got a bottle of vodka and he's wearing a diaper... going "Baby wants to breast-feed!"... I think my wife and I almost died when we saw that.
Archer, though.. I honestly think that's the funniest thing on tv right now. Far and away. Watch the series from the beginning if you can. It's hysterical. The writing is genius.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)They've finally said wearing a burka is better than wearing a bikini.
I'm glad they're just being honest now, anyway. Only a scant matter of time before they are quoting Pat Robertson and Phylis Shaflay as the rational tenants of the otherwise decadent Western Culture.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)by that post. There is not a contortionist on earth unbaffled by those mental gymnastics. Holy shit.
Let me get this right: Islam is liberating and rational Western though is enslaving. Jeezus, I might go back to Equestria Daily. For good.
name not needed
(11,663 posts)Claim you're against "western imperialism' (see: civil rights and equality under the law) and people will let you get away with murder.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I mean, hello? How much more "Western Imperialist" can you get than the Roman Catholic Church?
Behind the Aegis
(54,850 posts)It wasn't the anti-Semitism or the homophobia, but the pron! (where is the snickering smiliey?!)
BainsBane
(54,739 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)And Censors for Freedom.
BainsBane
(54,739 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 6, 2013, 07:30 AM - Edit history (1)
Considering we're all such witches in HOF, why care what we say? You obviously don't understand or care to understand what you read, so why bother? What is it you find so fascinating about us? Aren't most of you married? I would think your days of chasing around the playground and shouting "girl germs" would be over. Can't we just agree to all ignore each other and let things be? You do your thing and we'll do ours, and never the twain shall meet. Enjoy you loved ones at home and the people you actually like on DU, rather than sowing discord day after day with women you don't even know. It seems so petty.
Upton
(9,709 posts)You mean like this right here?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=19168
Oooh.."look at the names" and everything... I realize you didn't start the thread, but as usual you're featured prominently providing backup.
Perhaps you should make an effort at getting your own house in order before coming over and lecturing the Men's Group....
Response to Upton (Reply #23)
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BainsBane
(54,739 posts)Not this group. One of the links is to a call out of a HOF member. I don't see the parallel. I can see by your remark, "as usual you're prominently providing back up" that you often poke around HOF, whereas I have very little awareness of your own posting habits. So is your point that as long as we talk about sexism or anything on this site you will feel personally aggrieved? Why?
What's the fascination with a separate group that you don't even have to read about? I happened to look in here for the first time in a couple of weeks. It appears members here make a daily habit of surveying HOF.
My "lecture" was a suggestion for a cease fire. Quit worrying about what is said in HOF, particularly when it isn't about you or this group.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)GD is a problem....a big festering problem because THEY JUST CAN'T SEE HOW WRONG THEY ARE.....WE CAN WIN THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS!
But this, this place is a true lair of villainy and evil, ain't it? I'd figure you'd want to stamp out this place first, no?
Upton
(9,709 posts)So chastising me for poking around HoF, seems a little disingenuous..don't you think? Anyway, I don't need to look in HoF..you and your cohorts push your old style anti sex 2nd wave agenda ad nauseam in GD.
You aren't interested in a cease fire or understanding anything, clearly.
ElboRuum
(4,717 posts)Whatabout teh menz?!!?
After seeing the utter craziness spouted by even the least overboard of the HOF regulars over the past couple of weeks, I am convinced that their regressive attitudes and utter lunacy in some cases, that their particular brand of feminism has nothing more to do anymore other than sitting behind a keyboard and giving men shit because men. I don't know how such brazen bigotry against such a large group of people counts as liberal, but I suspect that this sort of hate has been masquerading as a progressive agenda for so long that we just see it wrapped in the liberal cloth and I guess as such people think it belongs here.
Can't we just agree to all ignore each other and let things be? Hmm. Indeed, the question of the decade. Sure we can. As to the cease fire agreement, I'd kinda thought we'd had. Now that Bane's calling for a cease fire that already technically exists, I can say with honesty that there is no interest in HOF for keeping themselves to themselves.
Moreover, would I want to just ignore them?
Not after seeing the goings on these past couple of weeks. This kind of craziness requires an opposition, at least for my part.
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)If your only intention is to come here and denigrate the participants in this forum, you should find another hobby.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)The only "hobby" anyone here is guilty of- and I plead to it myself- is being unable to just remain silent and not get dragged into it when the same group of people who have been starting fights on the same silly subjects for 10+ years; be they "someone used the word b****" or this week's crusade against smut, backed up by "science" from religious right think tanks--- do what they always do... instead of feeding the drama.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)It's the damned Italian in me I guess.. ever met an Italian who didn't like to argue? lol
pintobean
(18,101 posts)over tits. Obviously some male sexist pig came up with the word.