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OKIsItJustMe

(21,452 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:09 AM Saturday

A 'Himalayan tsunami' has just devastated Nepal. It should be a wake-up call

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/nepal-glacial-burst-collapse-floods-border-b2789199.html
A ‘Himalayan tsunami’ has just devastated Nepal. It should be a wake-up call
Massive glacial bursts are becoming more frequent and more dangerous due to the climate crisis, experts tell Mukesh Pokhrel, warning: ‘They are not going to stop anytime soon’

Thursday 17 July 2025 10:57 BST



Glacial lake outburst floods (GLOFs) have become increasingly common in Nepal, driven by rapid warming in the Himalayas. Nepal's Department of Hydrology and Meteorology reports that temperatures in the Himalayan region have increased by 0.42C per decade between 2008 and 2018 – nearly double the global average.

Nepal lost 24 per cent of its glaciers due to global warming between 1977 and 2010, the most recent data available, contributing to a substantial decline in freshwater reserves in the Himalayas. In the Himalayan region, the number of glacial lakes and their area are rapidly increasing.

A study by ICIMOD found that the number of glacial lakes in Nepal increased by 154 per cent between 1977 and 2017, while their total area expanded by about 46 per cent. Nepal currently shares more than 1,500km of mountainous border with China, and many of its rivers, including the Bhotekoshi, originate in Tibet.

A 2020 survey by ICIMOD and the UN Development Programme identified 3,624 glacial lakes across the region's three river basins. Of these, 47 were found to be at high risk of bursting, with 25 located in Tibet. One of the most dangerous is Thulagi Lake in Manang District, which holds an estimated 36 million cubic metres of water. If it were to burst, the resulting flood could impact over 160,000 people downstream and cause damage estimated at $415m.

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A 'Himalayan tsunami' has just devastated Nepal. It should be a wake-up call (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Saturday OP
I wonder when regular people start seeing the connection between extreme weather and climate change? Irish_Dem Saturday #1
A lot of "regular people" do not acknowledge that either has changed OKIsItJustMe Saturday #3
Every night on the TV news we see more flooding across US cities and towns. Irish_Dem Saturday #4
The power of denial is tremendous OKIsItJustMe Saturday #8
That is a good question. ananda Saturday #2
The absence of a survival instinct is a troubling sign. LastDemocratInSC Saturday #5
Entertained, Tweeted and Drugged out of natural instincts. Brenda Saturday #6
Well said. My thought exactly. ananda Saturday #9
Who needs survival when you've got denial? hatrack Saturday #7

Irish_Dem

(72,509 posts)
1. I wonder when regular people start seeing the connection between extreme weather and climate change?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:27 AM
Saturday

OKIsItJustMe

(21,452 posts)
3. A lot of "regular people" do not acknowledge that either has changed
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:07 AM
Saturday

“It’s Summer. — It gets hot in the Summer.”
“We’ve had floods before…”

Irish_Dem

(72,509 posts)
4. Every night on the TV news we see more flooding across US cities and towns.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:02 AM
Saturday

At some point, perhaps regular people can no longer deny something is different.

OKIsItJustMe

(21,452 posts)
8. The power of denial is tremendous
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:02 AM
Saturday

For example, one might deny that the Earth is spherical, or that the Apollo astronauts landed on the moon. People who fervently believe these things are not persuaded by evidence which contradicts them.

One may deny that COVID-19 is a threat, or even real, while lying in an ICU, dying from it. I know of a woman who was hospitalized twice with COVID-19 (or who had life-threatening symptoms which matched those reported for COVID-19.) She steadfastly maintained that her Dr’s were lying to her. One might deny the efficacy of all vaccines, choosing not to “poison” their children with them. Epidemics of “eradicated” diseases will not persuade them.

Some might deny that renewable energy sources are renewable or clean or even useful. Bring as much scientific/documentary evidence as you like, they will not be swayed.

ananda

(32,606 posts)
2. That is a good question.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:50 AM
Saturday

Over many years the level of denialism and
even complacency among the believers has
always been very disturbing and disappointing
to me.

But where we are now is much worse since
we've degressed to downright insanity over
this issue (and all other crises we are facing
due to over population and irresponsible use
of energy.)

Brenda

(1,708 posts)
6. Entertained, Tweeted and Drugged out of natural instincts.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:21 AM
Saturday

Humanity slept through the alarm clock about thirty years ago.

Now, it's too late. All we can do is watch the apocalypse.

ananda

(32,606 posts)
9. Well said. My thought exactly.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:13 PM
Saturday

And it really is going to be apocalytic.

Sad to say.

hatrack

(63,030 posts)
7. Who needs survival when you've got denial?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:34 AM
Saturday

At least, that seems to be how things are operating these days.

Incidentally, the first part of the article linked here pointed out that this isn't just a deadly flood, it's destroyed the main (really, the only) road link between Nepal and China.

This is a big economic and political deal, as well as yet another warming point of failure.

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