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'They're not going to live normally': A devastating disease has surged in Calif.
By Gillian Mohney,
News Editor
Aug 18, 2025

Valley fever, or coccidioidomycosis, is spread when spores from a naturally occurring fungus are inhaled.
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In just 25 years, cases of an uncommon but potentially devastating disease have climbed more than 1,200% in California. This month, the California Department of Public Health reported that Valley fever cases are on track to surpass last years record number of over 12,500 cases.

Muted backlit silhouette of two tractors raking soil in Californias San Joaquin Valley.
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The infection, caused when people inhale spores of the naturally occurring Coccidioides fungus, made up fewer than 1,000 cases back in 2000 in California.
Shaun Yang, the director for molecular microbiology and pathogen genomics at the UCLA Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine, said relatively mild and wet winters in much of California mean the fungus can thrive underground without being killed off by frost. This kind of very wet and dry pattern definitely is perfect for this fungus to grow, Yang told SFGATE.
In recent years, climate change has supercharged years of drought and rainfall in California, and Yang says these changes may be a big reason for the spike in cases. In dry weather, the spores spread as dry dust and soil are kicked up because of construction, agriculture or wind.
I think climate change is the main reason to explain this type of dramatic explosion, Yang told SFGATE. I dont think anything else can explain this type of phenomenon.
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Maninacan
(296 posts)I know someone that had it and might still. Doctors won't help You with it in the Eastern part of the states.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Eventually he may have to have surgery to have part of his lung removed but mind you, he was in his early 20s when he got sick and then got better, and this is now almost 60 years on.
Having never had it myself (thank God) I dont know what the medical protocol is, but you could find out by googling some major medical centers like Mayo. But saying doctors wont help you with it in the Eastern part of the States just sounds a bit weird.
Best of luck.
StarryNite
(12,116 posts)aren't even aware of Valley Fever. Sometimes people have to really push to get answers and tests that are needed to get those answers.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)StarryNite
(12,116 posts)Here in the Phoenix area we are well aware of it and what it can do. Dogs are particularly susceptible to getting it. It can be deadly. The medication for it is costly and has side effects. In dogs it can affect all different parts of the body including the limbs, brain, and other organs.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)meaning (if I have this correctly) she had lumps in her lung (and only one lung) which were Valley Fever. About a third or more of one lung was removed and she lived to age 82, some three decades later. Before this she smoked, and she stopped immediately with this. Good for her.
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OKIsItJustMe
(21,875 posts)Then, years later, I read an interview of John Brunner, in which he said that there was only one thing in the book which was original,; everything else he had gotten from scientific journals, and a tour of major cities of the US.
Theres nothing in it about "The Greenhouse Effect" that I recall, but, it was written in 1972.
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OKIsItJustMe
(21,875 posts)In that case, you might want to start with his prior book, Stand on Zanzibar. It is frequently cited as his masterpiece. Like Make Room! Make Room! its primary theme is overpopulation, whereas The Sheep Look Up, usually said to be its sequel," is about environmental degradation.
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20190509-the-1968-sci-fi-that-spookily-predicted-today
10 May 2019
Beware, Brunner wrote a good deal of pulp. (Its not particularly bad, just not on the same level.) I read an interview with him once where he was asked about that, and he said something like, The good books take a lot of time to research and write. In the meantime, I have a family to feed."
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OKIsItJustMe
(21,875 posts)I have wondered about Our World in Data. One of the things which is a personal gripe of mine is that frequently their data is not current (i.e. it is a few years old.)
I am familiar with some of the authors you cited, but not all.
Regarding overpopulation, you may be interested in this Peanuts comic strip from 1957: 
Or this one from 1959:

To put things into perspective, what was the world population at the time?

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OKIsItJustMe
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It was shockingly irresponsible to not couple basic family planning education as part of a public health policy when infant mortality rates fell. Thats not coercion or propaganda.
All it is is a suggestion to put thought into serious decisions over invading your neighbors lives and spaces and then blaming them.
There are a few factors which reliably lead to smaller families:
- Empowering women: When women have a choice, not just about abortion, but about pregnancy in general, they tend to have fewer children.
- Better health care: When people are reasonably confident that their children will live to adulthood, they tend to have fewer children.
- Better education. More educated people tend to have fewer children. This is the underlying social dynamic of The Marching Morons.
"Modern medicine is a significant contributor to population growth, not just because of a decrease in infant mortality, but also because of an increase in "life expectancy" in general. All other things being equal, as it becomes normal for people to live longer, the population will grow.
Without a doubt, a growing human population, especially in the so-called developed countries has helped feed this crisis. On the other hand, in retrospect, signs of climate change date back to a time when the world population was much smaller. While we might reasonably say today that the population is far too large, no amount of family planning will have a significant impact on the level of greenhouse gases already in the atmosphere or the amount of plastic pollution already in the ecosystem.

Figure from: van Vuuren, D.P., Doelman, J.C., Schmidt Tagomori, I. et al. Exploring pathways for world development within planetary boundaries. Nature 641, 910916 (2025). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-025-08928-w
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OKIsItJustMe
(21,875 posts)I cant say Id encountered the data as oil concept before, but I understand it. For my own part, I have done my level best to keep my data mine, however, I know too much about databases, and I realize that corporations are not as careful with my data as I am.
Eminent domain is a legal tool which can be used for valid reasons. However, it can be and is abused. It seems now, more than ever.
For me, our #1 priority must be restoration of the ecosystem. #2 (selfishly) is survival of my/our species. On the whole, I think weve accomplished a number of worthwhile things. Were not all Beethoven , Rembrandt or Leonardo, but a few of us are. Weve done a lot of damage to our ecosystem, exploited one another, and our fellow inhabitants. I fear we have signed Gaias" death warrant. This saddens me. We dont yet know of life elsewhere on other planets. Gaia may be unique.
We were warned decades ago of the likely consequences of our actions. We selfishly chose to ignore them. The impression I get is that by-and-large, we still choose to ignore them, even as they begin to play out around us (perhaps because they are simply too awful for us to acknowledge.)
I used to say, Its never too late to make life a little less miserable for future generations. Ive begun to question that. Perhaps I was too optimistic.
My point regarding family planning is not that its a bad thing, however, while the Earths population likely should have been kept at a fraction of what it now is, we need to make a dramatic change in a matter of years, not decades. Using a very simplistic model, if everyone stopped having children today, we might expect the Earths population to be cut in half in say
40 years (thats just not fast enough.) If those remaining people keep producing carbon emissions at the same rate per capita as today, that would be too much.
If we used a more realistic plan (like Chinas now abandoned "one child policy) we would expect the population to decline even less rapidly.
So, while better family planning would have been good 70 or 80 years ago, Im afraid it is not the solution to our current crises.
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OKIsItJustMe
(21,875 posts)Yes, "family planning" is a good thing (it would have been a better thing in the post-war era) it simply is not sufficient to address the crises we face (as many seem to believe it is.)
There is no one solution, if we are to survive, it will require several orchestrated solutions.
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