Hamas is attacking their own people as they flee south.

[Joe Cool]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Lithos (a host of the Israel/Palestine group).

But I´m sure someone will reply with ¨But Israel¨ to this post.

[JohnSJ]

1. That isn't the first time they have done that.

[Joe Cool]

2. But yet many on DU seem to have more of a problem with Israel than Hamas.

[Throck]

3. Hamas people or Palestinian?

Aren't they just using Palestinians as human shields?

[NoRethugFriends]

4. Please cite source

[Joe Cool]

10. Happy now?

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/14/middleeast/gaza-israel-evacuation-saturday-intl-hnk/index.html

[NoRethugFriends]

26. Doesn't support the headline.

Though it is certainly possible that it was done by Hamas

[questionseverything]

28. Since when does hamas have fighter jets?

[stopdiggin]

5. but why are they fleeing .. ?

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[Joe Cool]

11. Because Hamas committed one of the worst atrocities in modern times

and Israel is rightfully retaliating.

[wnylib]

15. See my #9.

[Eugene]

6. Do you have a news article to support this per forum rules?

[Joe Cool]

12. Here you go!

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/14/middleeast/gaza-israel-evacuation-saturday-intl-hnk/index.html

[Eugene]

22. The link does not say that.

Another source reports an airstrike.

Palestinians fleeing along Israeli-designated 'evacuation route' in northern Gaza killed in airstrike

https://news.yahoo.com/palestinians-fleeing-along-israeli-designated-134533377.html

[RandySF]

7. Source?

[Joe Cool]

14. Here

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/14/middleeast/gaza-israel-evacuation-saturday-intl-hnk/index.html

[walkingman]

8. But Israel...☮ but seriously, where did you see this?

[Joe Cool]

13. Here

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/14/middleeast/gaza-israel-evacuation-saturday-intl-hnk/index.html

[wnylib]

9. Makes me wonder if they want Palestinian civilians to remain in the north as shields.

It also suggests that Israel's focus in the north has Hamas concerned about...? Israel finding hostages? Israel rooting out Hamas underground bunkers?

[Joe Cool]

16. 100%

Hamas is sending the message that if you flee south, we will kill you. Animals, each and every one of them.

[wnylib]

19. Israel is focused on two things, getting the hostages and annihilating Hamas.

Hamas is focused solely on their own survival.

[stopdiggin]

20. of which, once again, there is absolutely zero

on this string. You were asked several times for source. Other than that - nada.

[walkingman]

23. Not sure the point you are trying to make? The good folks here on DU are not

the bad guys. No one of for terrorists just not against the innocent Palestinians.

[Redleg]

30. The conflict was started long ago

and both sides have done things to escalate it. Yes, I agree, this most recent action by Hamas is horrible and I agree Israel is right to pursue Hamas and protect their own people while abiding by the laws of warfare. Does this put me on the "wrong side?"

[NewHendoLib]

18. Article does not specify who was responsible

[wnylib]

21. Makes zero sense that Israel would divert themselves from their

2 primary goals, to get the hostages and to destroy Hamas. For Israel to attack fleeing civilians would divert Israel from its focus and goals. They want hostages and Hamas, not Palestinian civilians. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.

[NewHendoLib]

24. You extrapolated my meaning from one short sentence?

[wnylib]

32. Yes.

[NewHendoLib]

34. .

[questionseverything]

27. Israel is dropping bombs out of planes

Hamas doesn’t have planes so how could it be them?

[Beastly Boy]

33. Hamas has drones.

[wnylib]

35. Hamas has rockets, missiles, and drones that drop explosives

[questionseverything]

36. The yahoo article in post # 22 quotes eye witnesses saying

It was war planes

[demmiblue]

25. Do you have a source for this besides the one you posted upthread that says this:

Videos authenticated by CNN showed a scene of extensive destruction following Friday’s blast on Salah Al-Deen street. A number of bodies, including those of children, can be seen on on a flat-bed trailer that appears to have been used to carry people away from Gaza City. There are also a number of badly burned and damaged cars.

It’s unclear what caused the widespread devastation. CNN has reached out to the IDF for comment on any airstrikes in the same location.

[demmiblue]

31. Oh, I see you can no longer post on this thread.

[Redleg]

29. Yes, we must be careful to never criticize the state of Israel

This is getting old really quickly. It seems even the most minor critique of Israel is deemed anti-semitic or pro-terrorist.

For the record, I support the right of Israel to defend its people and lands. Israel also has an obligation to wage war according to the laws of warfare, regardless of whether Hamas does the same. Israel is in a tough situation, no doubt, whereas Hamas doesn't abide by the same restraints.

[Rebl2]

37. Not surprised

[Lithos]

38. Locking

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