No Palestinian state, yes common sense and self-defense

[Mosby]

In recent days, high-ranking leaders of both the United States and the United Kingdom have reportedly been considering recognizing a Palestinian state. Israel’s cabinet, followed by a full Knesset vote, rejected what they called, “International diktats,” and “reward to terrorism.” Polling indicates that the Israeli public overwhelmingly opposes a Palestinian state.

No people or nation “deserves,” or has a “right” to statehood. Statehood is earned. There are over 3,000 estimated, stateless nations and only approximately 200 states. Many, such as the Tamils, Pashtuns, Kurds, Uigurs, Oromo, Yoruba, and Igbo, are more peaceful, larger, have a longer history, a stronger economy, and more durable, sustainable cultural institutions. Statehood is earned by military, economic, and diplomatic power. It is maintained by civic institutions, a unified citizenry, a coherent culture, and many other aspects of united peoplehood. The Palestinians are among the least deserving of a state.

Palestinians have a history of terrorism, locally and internationally. They continue to practice, celebrate, and brag about their terror and war crimes let alone renounce them. Palestinians have brought the world airplane and cruise ship hijackings, suicide bombings, stabbing attacks, car-ramming attacks, political assignations, indiscriminate bombing of civilians, rape, mutilation, and all manner of atrocities against Israel, and the world at large. Any leader of Israel, the US, or the UK has a responsibility to protect their citizens. Any support of the Palestinian culture of hate and violence is an abdication of this basic responsibility of leadership. Statehood would provide numerous opportunities to support violence directed at others and Palestinians themselves. It would protect corrupt, totalitarian leaders.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/no-palestinian-state-yes-common-sense-and-self-defense/

This is an increasingly common view of the notion of Palestinian statehood. Most of the media doesn't want to talk about it, and likes to aver that it's an opinion of the hard right. It's not.

[Voltaire2]

1. So permanent occupation oppression and cycles

of violence, or resolution by genocide.

Seems like a reasonable plan.

[Walleye]

2. So what would be the best way to deal with Palestine? Serious question

[Mosby]

5. One possible idea that might work

Is creating a protectorate in the WB and Gaza, administered by Jordan and Egypt respectively. It's not very likely, but probably more realistic than just giving a country to the Palestinians or ending the occupation.

This conflict should not have been allowed to continue for all these years, something should have been done decades ago to address Jewish and Palestinian rights in the region. There are no good solutions now, given that the Palestinians refuse to do the hard work towards statehood and the rest of the regions "leaders" only care about hurting Israel, the US and western culture.

[Walleye]

8. Something about when they learn to love their children as much a they hate Jews?

I think your suggestion is very good, this whole thing is been going on for my whole lifetime seemingly with no progress made. I remember when they were on the brink of reaching agreement and Arafat pulled out.
I like the idea of Jordan and Egypt Administering a protectorate. If they would be willing.

[BeyondGeography]

3. Being a Democrat I know you are capable of empathy

Put yourself in the shoes of an average Palestinian and ask how you’d feel reading that.

[hlthe2b]

4. I cannot recommend your response post more fully.

How can anyone support this? Even if only self-preservation were at play, there would never be peace with this stance. Something we learned after WWII, culminating in the Marshall Plan. How?

[Goddessartist]

10. I'm with

you. Basically the article us disgusting to me.

[LuvLoogie]

6. Netanyahu would not have remained in power

all these decades without support from the majority of Israelis. They are on board with how the Palestinians have been treated, the annexation of the West Bank, the throttling of Gaza.

They are planning 3300 new settlements in the West Bank.

Netanyahu will not step down. He will stay the PM, and nobody will replace him. The "Right" in Israel will grow stronger. And they will kill more Palestinians until they abandoned their homeland.

[Mosby]

9. Israel does not have direct elections

They use a parliamentary system where voters vote for parties and the winning party then has to put together a coalition that represents at least 51% of the Knesset (Israeli congress). It's a poor system imo, that I have been quite critical of. Netanyahus party, Likud has never received much more than 33% of the vote, but they have been able to cobble together coalitions with the religious parties and the settler/nationalistic parties.

A lot of pundits believe he will be gone after the war, along with others in the IDF and security agencies, for their utter failure to provide Israel the security needed on Oct 7th. Right now its Benny Gantz (center left) not Bibi, who is running the war cabinet.

Secondly, Israel has not annexed the WB or Gaza.

Israel has faced almost 100 years of terrorism from the Arabs, is it any wonder that they feel the way they do with regards to security?

[enid602]

7. Earned

“No people or nation “deserves,” or has a “right” to statehood. Statehood is earned.” A former generation of Jews earned Israel. Today, Palestine is experiencing its share of the same style of misery.