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The video was also shared by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's son, Yair Netanyahu, on his Telegram account.
A video surfaced on social media of a masked soldier or reservist calling for a rebellion against IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi and Yoav Gallant, according to reports by Israeli media.
In the video, the soldier is heard saying, "Think carefully to whom you intend to give the keys. Our brothers were not murdered or raped for nothing. We want victory, a decision. Whoever harmed the people of Israel and our brothers - we want to destroy him, and you, Mr. Gallant, cannot do that. Change the record or we'll just go with the Prime minister. You wanted a military coup - we'll show you what a decision is and what a victory is, how real Jews win."
Ynet reported that the 162 Brigade has an open investigation into how soldiers were able to bring cell phones into the Gaza Strip on the morning they initially entered East Rafah. They were found recording civilian facilities crossing paths with tanks being trampled. The videos were distributed within minutes, the report said.
https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-802601
Israeli
(4,293 posts)but that video is absolute total bullshit .
The IDF have to take it seriously and have infact arrested someone from Hertzlia today.
The politicians are also taking it seriously .......why not if it helps the cause ?
See :
Trying to cause anarchy: Lapid accuses PM of ties to IDF reservists call for mutiny
Yesh Atid MKs call for criminal investigation into Netanyahus son Yair after he shares video calling for soldiers to take orders only from the prime minister
Source : https://www.timesofisrael.com/trying-to-cause-anarchy-lapid-accuses-pm-of-ties-to-idf-reservists-call-for-mutiny/
The rest of us are just
Why ???
Because it shows just how desperate Bibi , his family and his followers have become .
Not the first time Yair has done this .
See : Calling Out Pallywood, Netanyahu's Son Spreads Fake Video Online
With social media giants making an effort to quell the spread of incitement, Yair Netanyahu posts 2013 video from Egypt, claiming it's from Gaza
Yair Brill
May 20, 2021
As always happens when Israel and Hamas are fighting, social media is rife with slogans, pictures and videos for and against some come from official sources like the Israel Defense Forces officials Instagram account, for example and some are spread by citizens, with truth and context cast aside.
So it is no surprise that many of the video clips making the rounds online and purporting to be from Israel, Gaza or the occupied West Bank turn out to be fake in the end, or where there is no connection at all to the present operation in the Gaza Strip.
For example, a video that went viral this week in which people are seen carrying a dead body, and after a warning siren goes off, they run away and the dead body flees too was presented by pro-Israel supporters as proof of Hamas faking funerals. But fact checking groups looked into the sources of the video and found it was filmed in Jordan and posted online back in March 2020.
Yair Netanyahu, the son of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, entered the digital fight on Wednesday, too. The younger Netanyahu, who is known for his firebrand politics and usually spreads his message on Twitter and Instagram, has for the past few days posted what seems to be an endless numbers of tweets and pictures supporting Israel, alongside the accusations against the Israeli media that it is working in the service of the enemy.
A clip Netanyahu posted on Wednesday continued in this vein: The video shows a funeral in which dozens of bodies are covered in white shrouds while lying on the ground, seemingly dead. When the camera moves along the line of bodies, you can see one of the bodies clearly moving.
Netanyahu added a caption to the clip: "Paliwood! Look at the Palestinian casualties in Gaza, accidentally caught on Palestinian live tv. The implication was clear: Palestinians are faking the figures regarding the number of casualties in the Gaza Strip.
But it was actually Netanyahus tweet and Instagram post that were the fake news. The video he posted isnt just old, but it isnt even of a funeral: It is a film of protest by Muslim students at Al-Azhar University in Egypt. The clip appeared on YouTube back on October 28, 2013.
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BTW not that you care but we do .......Bibi's oldest son , his pride and joy has been living safe and secure in
Miami throughout this war while our sons are fighting Hamas .
He keeps himself busy slandering anyone that disagrees with his father and using social media to do it .
Last example :
Yair Netanyahu's Weekly Radio Show: A Window Into the pro-Bibi Israeli Right's Bubble of Conspiracies
Yair Netanyahu's appearances on a West Bank-based radio station drive the echo chamber that says the U.S. is funding protests and that political arrests are imminent. Three months into this governments term, weve reached that embarrassing point where the sycophants fully believe their own lies
You have to listen to Yair Netanyahus show on Galey Israel, a West Bank-based radio station, every Friday to understand the depths of the abyss into which we have sunk. Its the engine for the echo chamber of right-wing messaging, the pipe from which the sewage and the poison flows on to all the other mouthpieces.
He says military coup, and they follow his message and reinforce it. Yair Netanyahu is ostensibly a guest, but is actually the host. One time its Matan Peleg from the NGO Im Tirtzu, and another time its journalist Caroline Glick, but the format remains the same.
The underlying theme is conspiracies. One of them brings them up, and the other reinforces them. Callers are occasionally put on air to reinforce and exalt Prince Yairs words. Everyone likes everyone and boosts everyones theories.
Here is a short list from last weeks show: Theres a rebellion by the police against the government; the police will arrest every right-wing Israeli, like in totalitarian regimes; the role of prime minister has been turned into a mostly ceremonial role like the presidents because of the Supreme Court; the prosecutor in Manhattan who wants to sue former President Donald Trump was sent by George Soros, and the whole case is actually related to Israel; the Americans are funding the protests because Netanyahu is preventing them from arming Iran with nuclear weapons. You need a shower after the show is over.
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Israeli
(4,293 posts)Its for those willing to learn and understand .
Netanyahu's Loyalists Spawn Another Milestone on the Path to Civil War in Israel
Is there any organization of reservists waiting for the order from Netanyahu to continue fighting in Gaza even if the order to pull back is given? Almost certainly not, and if there is, this video isn't proof of it. But it serves Netanyahu and the far right to have Israelis fear that may be the case
It was a fake video, staged by a man who is not currently serving in the reserves, with a fake background making fake statements, distributed by two of the most fake Israeli social media accounts (fake in the sense that they are used to disseminate fake news, the people running them are real). But it raised what could become a very real threat to Israel in the not too distant future.
The video posted on social media first by Yinon Magal, host of the "The Patriots" chat-show on the slavishly pro-Netanyahu Channel 14, shows a masked man in uniform claiming to speak in the name of 100,000 reservists who have been fighting in Gaza since October 7 (though there are currently only a few thousand reservists with the Israel Defense Forces in the Strip) and is directed both at Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant.
To the soundtrack of a generic action movie and standing in front of a ruined graffiti-covered wall which is supposedly somewhere in Gaza though it was not shot in Gaza the masked speaker promises that the 100,000 reservists would refuse to withdraw from the Strip before the enemy "is exterminated," and informs Gallant that should such an order be given, the reservists won't obey him and their commanders, but only Netanyahu.
It's important note at this point that the Prime Minister of Israel is not the commander-in-chief of the IDF. By law, only the entire cabinet can dictate military strategy, and the defense minister is in charge of instructing the IDF.
But the message is clear: someone is trying to make it look as if Gallant, who nearly two weeks ago publicly criticized Netanyahu for the lack of a strategy in Gaza, is acting against the national interest, as embodied by the anonymous reservists whose loyalty in such a case would be to Netanyahu.
To drive home that message, the prime minister's wastrel son who has never done a day of reserve duty, but is currently whiling away his time, at wartime, in Miami, posted the video as well.
Following the furor it created over the weekend, Netanyahu Jr. at some point took the video off his social media accounts, and his father's office put out a statement saying that "the prime minister warned many times of the danger in the refusal of orders phenomena and the leniency towards it. The prime minister is consistent in this approach against any form of refusal of orders from any side and expects all the establishments to treat them equally."
In other words, he was comparing threats of an armed insurrection to the protesters against his government's "legal reform," who last year threatened not to turn up for reserve duty if it was passed.
The disingenuous prime ministerial statement was echoed by the lawyer of the "soldier," who as it turns out was not a soldier in Gaza but a citizen (who has in the past served in reserves) and a hardcore Likud supporter who borrowed the rifle from a friend. He is now under investigation by the military police for mutiny and inciting mutiny. His reserve status has been discontinued. Why was his client arrested when the leftists were not?
It's a faulty comparison of course. The protesters against the judicial overhaul at no point threatened to defy orders while in service. They spoke of withholding their voluntary service if the anti-democratic legislation went through, a controversial move without a doubt, but nowhere near the level of disobeying orders in uniform during war. They also never called for an insurrection against their commanders or pledged allegiance to an alternative political power.
And if there was to be a constitutional crisis in which the commanders of the IDF would accept instructions from the High Court of Justice rather than a prime minister or government without legal authority, they would simply be acting according to the law. There is absolutely no basis in Israeli law for soldiers' pledging allegiance to the prime minister.
But these crucial differences between passive protest and armed mutiny don't matter in the echo chamber operated by Netanyahu's proxies. As the masked fake soldier says at the end of the video: "you wanted a military coup, we the reserve soldiers who can't go home, we will show you what is victory."
Is there any organization of reservists waiting for the order from Netanyahu to continue fighting in Gaza even if Gallant and the IDF generals give the order to pull back? Almost certainly not, and if there is, this video isn't proof of it. But it serves Netanyahu and the far right to have Israelis fear that may be the case. It is unlikely to deter someone like Gallant, who has faced much more dangerous situations over his military career, but if Israel does ever descend into civil war, this production by the Netanyahu machine will be a milestone on that path leading to the bottom.
Source : Haaretz
Link : https://archive.md/Tfzv0#selection-1065.0-1125.588