Hamas accepts UN ceasefire resolution, ready to negotiate over details, official says

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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/hamas-accepts-un-ceasefire-resolution-ready-negotiate-over-details-official-says-2024-06-11/

Hamas accepts UN ceasefire resolution, ready to negotiate over details, official says

By Reuters
June 11, 2024 4:29 AM EDT Updated 4 hours ago

CAIRO, June 11 (Reuters) - Hamas accepts a UN Security Council ceasefire resolution and is ready to negotiate over the details, senior Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters on Tuesday, adding that it was up to Washington to ensure that Israel abides by it.

Hamas accepts the UN security council resolution in regard to the ceasefire, withdrawal of Israeli troops and swap of hostages for detainees held by Israel, he said.

"The U.S. administration is facing a real test to carry out its commitments in compelling the occupation to immediately end the war in an implementation of the UN Security Council resolution," Abu Zuhri said.

Reporting by Nidal Al Mughrabi Writing by Tala Ramadan Editing by Peter Graff

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1. A sad comment when the closest to reasonable party in this outrage is Hamas.

[Beastly Boy]

4. The resolution is based on a paln accepted by all parties but Hamas long ago.

It took a UN resolution to get Hamas to budge. I wouldn't call this reasonable.

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7. "Time for the haggling to stop": Blinken says Hamas didn't accept ceasefire deal

"Time for the haggling to stop": Blinken says Hamas didn't accept ceasefire deal

Secretary of State Tony Blinken said Wednesday that Hamas has not accepted the U.S.-backed proposal for a hostage and ceasefire deal and presented "numerous changes" that go beyond its previous positions.

Why it matters: The U.S. and international mediators see the proposal as the best chance to end eight months of war. About 120 hostages are still being held by Hamas in Gaza and more than 37,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israel in the war in Gaza, according to local health authorities.

Driving the news: Hamas sent its response to the proposal to Egyptian and Qatari mediators on Tuesday evening.

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/12/blinken-hamas-gaza-hostage-ceasefire-proposal

[Beastly Boy]

2. Watch what they do, not what they say.

[CincyDem]

3. While the US underwrites Israel's adherence, who underwrites Hamas' adherence? Qatar? Egypt? Iran?

Or maybe we just take their word for it.



Until someone can identify the major global player (or wannabe player) who can put and maintain pressure on Hamas to commit and adhere to those commitments…this is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

[AloeVera]

10. What do they have to gain by not adhering?

That would ensure their total annohilation. I believe they want to avoid that.

But Bibi has already stated the war will go on until Hamas is wiped out, after the ceasefire. So, essentially saying Phase Ii will not happen. Kind of a deal-killer if you ask me. Why would he do that? Because he has a lot to gain.

As for the US. underwriting the deal. What will it do if Netanyahu breaks it? I haven't seen much push-back to Netanyahu. Even with the hampering of aid, the US. has not been able to convince Netanyahu to stop it. People are starving, yet distribution of aid is still slowed and prevented. Why is Bibi allowed to break humanitarian laws and laws of war?

Why would anyone trust a man who has been found to have committed war crimes and crimes against humanity? See the UN report that came out yesterday.

In relation to Israeli military operations and attacks in Gaza, the Commission found that Israeli authorities are responsible for the war crimes of starvation as a method of warfare, murder or wilful killing, intentionally directing attacks against civilians and civilian objects, forcible transfer, sexual violence, torture and inhuman or cruel treatment, arbitrary detention and outrages upon personal dignity.

The Commission found that the crimes against humanity of extermination, gender persecution targeting Palestinian men and boys, murder, forcible transfer, and torture and inhuman and cruel treatment were also committed.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/06/israeli-authorities-palestinian-armed-groups-are-responsible-war-crimes

[CincyDem]

11. A good question...unfortunately, you're asking it from the perspective of a rational thinker vs. avowed terrorist.

I agree with you 100%.

But these are guys who see martyrdom as the express train to paradise. And it’s not just for themselves. Their logic is that that have done every one of those 38-39,000 citizens a favor by getting them a ticket on that express train too.

IMHO, I think they’re ready to do (and sacrifice) whatever it takes to stay at the top of the western world news cycle and keep the global spotlight on Israel, no matter the apparent cost to their people.

[AloeVera]

12. I think that view is too simplistic, easy.

It's more complex than a desire for martyrdom. If that were the case, they could all gather in a HQ somewhere and all be martys within a few minutes.

Also remember they hide in tunnels and behind civilians! What self-respecting would-be martyr would delay gratification in such a manner? You'd also think they'd have caught on by now that civilians won't protect them, Israel is going to bomb them anyway. And yet the claims of human shields persist among some.

No, I think it's too cavalier and illogical to blame the 37,000 deaths on their Islamist beliefs.

It's more likely they actually want freedom and liberation for their people. And they're willing to fight to the last man to get it. Which is very likely, the last man I mean. Just hope they won't take many more innocents down with them.

Freedom and liberation, self-determination for Palestinians? Not many care about that in the corridors of power, or even here sadly.

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13. "It's more likely [Hamas] actually want freedom and liberation for [i]their[i] people"?

"Hamas's people" is Hamas. If Hamas wanted "freedom, liberation and self determination" for Palestians, there would have been elections long ago.

What does Hamas want? It wants the annihilation of Israel and to kill as many Jews as possible. Anyone on *TikTok* trying to rebrand terrorists as "freedom fighters" is frankly disgusting.

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Top Hamas official declares group is not responsible for defending Gazan civilians

Moussa Abu Marzouk says vast underground tunnel network is for the protection of the terror group’s members, while civilians should be taken care of by the UN and Israel

Hamas official Moussa Abu Marzouk, September 18, 2014. (AP/Khalil Hamra)

Moussa Abu Marzouk, a prominent member of Hamas’s political bureau, has declared that the terror group that rules Gaza is not responsible for protecting the Strip’s civilians, and said that the vast tunnel network underneath the enclave is only for the protection of Hamas terrorists.

In an interview with Russia Today’s Arabic channel on Friday, Abu Marzouk was asked why Hamas has dug 500 kilometers (310 miles) of tunnels in the territory it has ruled over since 2007, but has never built shelters for civilians to hide during bombings.

“We built the tunnels because we have no other way of protecting ourselves from being killed in airstrikes. We are fighting from inside the tunnels,” the Qatar-based official said, according to a segment of the interview translated and shared by the Middle East Media Research Institute.

“Seventy-five percent of the population of Gaza are refugees, and it is the UN’s responsibility to protect them,” Abu Marzouk added, referencing the UN relief agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA) that operates across Gaza, the West Bank and other Middle East countries to provide basic services to Palestinian refugees from 1948 and their millions of descendants, who are also regarded by the agency as refugees despite never being displaced during their lifetime.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-hamas-official-claims-group-is-not-responsible-for-defending-gazan-civilians/

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[Lonestarblue]

6. The question is whether Netanyahu will now accept the UN resolution.

Bibi tends to find a way to blow up any deal.

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8. No it isn't. Israel accepted it, but Hamas said "no" today.

"Time for the haggling to stop": Blinken says Hamas didn't accept ceasefire deal

Secretary of State Tony Blinken said Wednesday that Hamas has not accepted the U.S.-backed proposal for a hostage and ceasefire deal and presented "numerous changes" that go beyond its previous positions.

Why it matters: The U.S. and international mediators see the proposal as the best chance to end eight months of war. About 120 hostages are still being held by Hamas in Gaza and more than 37,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israel in the war in Gaza, according to local health authorities.

Driving the news: Hamas sent its response to the proposal to Egyptian and Qatari mediators on Tuesday evening

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/12/blinken-hamas-gaza-hostage-ceasefire-proposal

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9. "Hamas official" says what?